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October 29, 2006 4:09:55 PM

I recently bought the computer as shown in the link below:

http://www.comet.co.uk/cometbrowse/product.do?sku=35523...

The video card is a geforce 6100 nforce 405 and im just wondering whether or not it is possible to upgrade this card as i just realised to shares the ram.

Im a complete novice so any advice would be appreciated ^^
October 29, 2006 4:18:08 PM

You should be able to upgrade the video card as long as that computer has a slot to accept the new card (PCIe/AGP/PCI if you're desperate). If you plan on buying something powerful, make sure the computer's power supply can handle it.
October 29, 2006 4:23:46 PM

thanks a lot then
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a b U Graphics card
October 29, 2006 4:44:57 PM

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Can you upgrade from integrated video cards?


Yes as long as you have an available expansion card slot and the ability to disable the onboard video in the CMOS setup, which you should have, but I've run into dead ends at trying to research what M/B is in your machine.

Do you know whats in the Acer T180DC? M/B Brand and Model number? Should be visably stamped on the M/B, disconnect the power, remove the case cover and see what it is, write it down and post it.
October 29, 2006 4:46:51 PM

will do as sson as i open it
a b U Graphics card
October 29, 2006 5:17:36 PM

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The video card is a geforce 6100 nforce 405 and im just wondering whether or not it is possible to upgrade this card as i just realised to shares the ram.


The 6150 is not a video card it's a chip built into the MoBo, what you need is an add-in card. Nice thing about the GF61250 is that like the X200 it can be used for multi-monitor support later.

(Like 4Ryan6 says, you'll want to tweak the bios, although you don't have to disable the onboard, just make it secondary, it's a good idea to disable it anyways like he say, means it doesn't potentially waste resources too)

What you need to look for is connectors like these;



You want AGP or PCIe-16x in order to give oyu options that would be faster than what you have. While the other two connectors can have graphics cards their power wouldn't be much of an improvement if at all.

Hopefully you have at least a PCIe-16x aka a PEG slot.

If your only options are PCIe1x or PCI then look for a PCIe 1x card, but they are rare and overpriced, but the only thing that would give you a performance boost.

Anywhoo, if you do have a PCIe16x or AGP slot then your base sweet spots are the ATi X1650 and nVidia GF7600 series cards. From there then you can look for the better cards X1900GT / X1950Pro, or at lesser cards like the X1300 or GF7300.
a b U Graphics card
October 29, 2006 5:21:20 PM

Hey Grape! :D 

Had any good glider adventures lately?

How've you been?
a b U Graphics card
October 29, 2006 5:35:38 PM

Yo' dude!

Been real busy at work, just lounging in bed watching Seattle vs KC and getting ready togo to the pub for Denv vs Indy.

And guess what it SNOWED last night! I played hockey at 11pm to 12:30am (we won 9-2).

Got home watched SNL, nothing. Wake up @ 10am and there's 4"+ on the ground, SWEET! Skiing soon, already have my 2 season's passes.
Wahooo, more snow!
a b U Graphics card
October 29, 2006 10:23:18 PM

WOW Cool, the only snow we get here is from "Sonic Drive In "! :lol: 

Didn't get any snow last year at all, but what the heck theres always water skiing, and the Roller Rink ! :wink:
October 30, 2006 7:09:54 AM

Well i cant find a brand name but its a HT 2000 with one 16bit pci-e slot and two normal pci slots.

I was hoping to get a geforce 7900 gs and was wondering whether it would be a suitable choice as the 7600gt and the 7900gs are so similarly priced.

http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?quicklinx=48JM&eng...
October 30, 2006 7:41:36 AM

depends on the mobo:

- check if there's a AGP or PCIexpress
- get yourself the card that you want to buy (make sure you get the right slot!)
always check before you go shopping!
- plug the card in your computer
- change bios to AGP/PCIexpress
- connect screen to new card
- install nvidia/ati,.. drivers
- go grab youself a beer
October 30, 2006 9:01:06 AM

Almost all the 6100 and 6150 onboard video MB's have a pcie-X16 slot on them. I myself have a workbox with Asrock MB with the 6100 onboard and I have a XFX_6800GS on it. You just have to set the bio's to use the pcie video option first. That will also help you because you won’t be using the 128meg of
Onboard memory that the 6100 uses. I’m also looking at the 7900 card's right now and the difference of price is amazing, you can get a GT or even a 7950GT from newegg now for just a few buck's more. The 512meg 7950gt's are only 300.=BA=
October 30, 2006 10:08:15 AM

ok you've solved one problem by telling us that it is a PCI-E slot.

now all we need to know is the wattage of the Power Supply, should say on the sticker on the side of it. pray that you have at least 350W otherwise your upgrade may cost more than you think
a b U Graphics card
October 30, 2006 3:19:02 PM

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Well i cant find a brand name but its a HT 2000 with one 16bit pci-e slot and two normal pci slots.

I was hoping to get a geforce 7900 gs and was wondering whether it would be a suitable choice as the 7600gt and the 7900gs are so similarly priced.


As was mentioned check your power supply (like not very robust if they started from integrated and didn't make it easy for you to consider upgrading).

If you've got the powah then the GF7900GS would be good and get you more mileage IMO, but otherwise the GF7600GT is a fine choice, it actually uses less power than a GF6600GT or X700 / X1600 card so should be good in most builds.

Either one will do fine. I don't know the UK market well enough to recommend any alternatives. I know of DABs from my visits, and from STUFF magazine, but little else other than OverclockersUK. I don't like the selection I see on DABs and compared to US/CAN prices it's dismal, but I know there's a premium over there.

My preference would be this from Overclockers ;
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh000001.pl?REFPA...

But it is a little more money, at which point you start saying, oh for only £25 more I could get, or for another I could get.....

From your list IMO the GF7900GS is worth the 10£ premium but make sure your power supply can handle it, because IMO it's not worth a new PSU (at least £20) and 10 pounds.

The 7600GT should do you for the time being until the next generation become useful in about 2008.
October 30, 2006 4:17:48 PM

If you can get your hands on a 7900gs for about the same price as a 7600gt I say go for it as the 7900 gs will give better preformance 'cause it's a slightly scaled down version on the 7900gt. But be aware of power requirements for those cards, 7900gs and 7900gt will use considerably more power than a 7600gt wich does NOT require any additional power connector
November 1, 2006 7:28:49 AM

7600GT's do require an extra power connector, it is the 7600GS which usually doesn't or only needs a molex hook.
November 1, 2006 2:03:17 PM

if 7600 gt's require an extra connector,as you say, then why does the leadtek winfast 7600 gt I have in MY computer doesn't and every other 7600gt's I've installed in the last year wich is about 20 of them???? answer please !!!

desolationw does NOT know what he his talking about and he should have looked in my sig he would have seen I have a 7600gt so maybe I know about them.
November 1, 2006 4:32:16 PM

yeah i am wrong, don't ask how i screwed up since i've been researching 7600GT's and 7900GS's for the last couple of weeks to see which one to get soon. obvious answer being 7900gs depending on the prices but anyway.

i am right about 7600GS's needing a molex connector but they are AGP cards and only certain brands.
November 1, 2006 9:09:13 PM

The AGP versions of the 7600GT and 7600GS do require additional power from the PSU and they do have 4-Pin Molex connections on them. The PCI-E versions do not require additional power from the PSU.
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