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October 30, 2006 12:39:11 AM

GEFORCE 8800 GTX GEFORCE 8800 GTS REVIEW

Core 2 Extreme QX6700 (2.66 GHz) - > 12 000 points 3DMark06;
Core 2 Extreme x6800 (2.93 GHz) - > 10 500 points 3DMark06;
Athlon FX-62 (2.8 GHz) - > 10 000 points 3DMark06.



Power requirements:

Single setup
8800 GTX - 30 amperes 450 W
8800 GTS - 26 amperes 400 W


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Important information for those, who look at video card GeForce 8800 GTS. Last time we have not noted the officially recommended price, but now this informatiob is availble from our German associates. Retail prices of GeForce 8800 GTS will begin from $500 or ˆ500, depending on the sales region . geForce 8800 GTX will cost $650.

geforce 8800 gtx review
GEFORCE 8800 GTX 8800 GTS PRICES

GeForce 8800 gtx:

Frequency of video chip is 575 MHz. Which characteristic, 128 unfield shader blocks will operate at the frequency of 1350 MHz. As you see, strategy of the clock frequencies with different design for different functional blocks inside the video chip continues to excit with the new GPU.
The memory frequency of 1800 MHz DDR. the most amusing, that we will see on GeForce 8800 GTX memories of type Gddr-3.
Answer to the question "why not Gddr-4?" are in the video memory of GeForce 8800 gtx - such video card will have 768 mb memory. I.e., to the usual 512 mb. are added 256 additional mb. - most likely, for the needs of physical effects or other specific tasks. If GeForce 8800 gtx use memory Gddr-4 of this volume, price would be a lot higher and the card will be less attractive.
The memory bus also has uncommon word length - 384 bits. I.e., to the usual 256 bits with added 128 additional bits .this explains the U-shaped arrangement of the memory microcircuits around the videochip on the graphic map GeForce 8800 gtx.
Finally, the pair of speed characteristics: memory ensures the brandwidth og 86 Gbit/s, videochip fills rate equal to 38.4 with billion pixel per second.

GeForce 8800 gts (differs in terms of the modest characteristics):

Chip Frequency of 500 MHz.
96 unfield shader blocks, which work at the frequency of 1200 MHz.
Memory Frequency Of 1800 MHz DDR.
640 mb memory type Gddr-3 (512 + 128).
the 320- bit Memory bus (256 + 64).
The memory brandwidth 64 Gbit/s.

Both video card will support DirectX 10 and Shader Model 4.0, and also Dual- link DVI, HDCP, VIVO and HDTV

The second news is about the fact that video card on base of chip G80 will support the physics acceleration at the hardware level. Within the framework of the technology, called Quantum Effects (name can change in the final version), is implied the use a part of the unfield shader blocks of video chip G80 to calculate the physical effects. Strictly speaking, this confirms the previous data about the special features of G80 with the "physical" effects.

Possible to assume that those "additional" megas-byte of memory and the 128 memory bus were necessary for G80 exactly for the work with "physics". However, in the absence of clearly expressed "physical load" they hardly will stay in separate from the remaining resources of the video card.

It should be noted that the "physical" technology from NVIDIA can work also without SLI, on single video card. NVIDIA gives us to understood that Quantum will compete with AGEIA PhysX...
October 30, 2006 12:43:09 AM

GTX and GTS naked Notice GTS is the one with 1 power connector

October 30, 2006 12:53:41 AM

Good info :wink:

However, I'd still prefer gaming benchmarks instead of 3DMark. :roll:
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October 30, 2006 12:55:26 AM

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Good info :wink:

However, I'd still prefer gaming benchmarks instead of 3DMark. :roll:


by all means feel free to add any info you have to this thread :wink:
October 30, 2006 1:18:45 AM

thanks for the link 8)
October 30, 2006 1:24:23 AM

That monster is 11 inchs long, so you better have a big case to fit it in
October 30, 2006 1:27:59 AM

Wow, $650 is quite a sucker punch for a single card, hopefully it'll drop down significantly when ATI gets their DX10 solution into the market. Having just dropped 600 for a brand new 7950GX2 a few months back I think I'll wait for some DX10 software to hit the market before I make the jump.

Some oddities, looks like the GTS has heat spreaders over its ram, whereas the GTX doesn't. Maybe they just forgot to take them off prior to the photo shoot. The ram configuration is also a bit strange, completely surrounding the GPU like that, looks like it might be hard to get a liquid cooler on there. And why does the GTX have 2 sli bridges connecters on it? Can you do a quad-setup with them or what?

Good job finding some interesting info, I'm really looking forward to seeing how these bad boys perform against SLI and in SLI configs. This is looking to be the biggest thing in graphics since, I dunno, the 9700 pro came out?
October 30, 2006 1:30:31 AM

yeah with a card that big you almost need to support the back of the
card.

i would imagine they beef up the p.c.b. though.
October 30, 2006 1:30:47 AM

yes, well price will vary by the sales region
October 30, 2006 1:32:23 AM

and i was very impressed that g80 will support the physics acceleration at the hardware level. :!:
October 30, 2006 1:47:56 AM

maybe cleeve will have a test card sometime this coming week :) 
October 30, 2006 4:12:28 AM

if anyone has any info (especially game benchmarks) regarding g80 or r600, please post it HERE
a b Î Nvidia
October 30, 2006 5:40:39 AM

WTF !?! THEY DIDN'T EVEN TEST ANYTHING !!!

" In this news we decided to combine different information about video card geForce 8800 GTX and GeForce 8800 GTS, which as u already know will apear soon

We start, perhaps, from the data about the cuurent speed level of video card geForce 8800 GTX in test 3DMark06, which published associates from site the inquirer. Results are attached to the model of the utilized processor; y: "


What a waste, just a reprint of InQ informtion, nothing new. :roll:
October 30, 2006 6:34:44 AM

I don't like the fact that it is 3DMARK, better games such as Oblivion, FEAR, Crisis, and so on... So that we can get an understanding of what they are truly
capable of doing...
a b Î Nvidia
October 30, 2006 7:18:38 AM

LOL, I liked the bar chart. When they were testing real cards, you got real scores. (like 9157 or something...) But when they jumped to the "tested" card, all of a sudden things became even. 10,000? 10,500? 12,000? Wheres my 10,646? Or perhaps my 12,356? Oh well, perhaps the 8800 is so awesome that it makes 3DMark round all the scores....
October 30, 2006 7:00:47 PM

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What a waste, just a reprint of InQ informtion, nothing new. :roll:


nothing new to you and me, but there are a lot of people who have no idea about g80, dx10 etc.

the purpose of this thread was to bring everyone up to date, and like I said you are more than welcome to add new stuff that you have found about g80 or r600!
October 30, 2006 7:36:10 PM

Don't mind paying for the card price itself... but damn... 400-450w per card... lol somebody pay the powerbills for me?
October 30, 2006 7:47:34 PM

well i guess that is the price you have to pay for dx10, quantum effects and all the other goodies this card has.

thank God my psu has enough juice to run 8800gtx, cause when i get that card im gonna be broke for a while lol. for my setup with 8800gtx 574w is suggested (assuming my oced cpu and 100% utilization) according to eXtreme Power Supply Calculator v2.0
October 30, 2006 8:30:51 PM

Hmm, the 8800GTX has two SLI bridge connectors.....

Tri-SLi anyone?
October 30, 2006 8:31:07 PM

thanx, but i posted that link already
and it's from here
October 30, 2006 8:39:08 PM

i am not sure, but i think, maybe, it has something to do with g80's physics processor!???
a c 171 Î Nvidia
October 30, 2006 9:04:22 PM

So you did, sorry 'bout that I overscrolled and missed it. :lol: 
October 30, 2006 9:07:53 PM

:lol:  happens to everybody
a b Î Nvidia
October 30, 2006 9:27:23 PM

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Tri-SLi anyone?


Probably, but it also needs it at the chip level to be ful SLi.

There's been talk of this for a while and I was surprised that they didn't add it to the G71 refresh.

It's similar to how the X1950Pro is setup, but it's still unknown if they can implement multi-CF with that kinda of setup but it stands to reason as it's not a hardware limitation, especially with super-tiling.

BTW, for consolidation of the rumours, maybe this link is easiest;
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?page=9
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33576
October 31, 2006 5:15:14 PM

BFG GEFORCE 8800 GTS 640MB available for backorder www.comtec.ca
for $582.06 CAD ≈ $520 USD
a b Î Nvidia
October 31, 2006 5:23:26 PM

That would be available for PRE-ORDER, not Backorder.

And I'll believe the prices when they actually have stock, e-tailers are notorious for putting in weird prices before they actualy get products. It's annoying when it says $299 before launch then the day they have stock suddenly it show $349. NCIX acts a little differently they have huge prices (like $2,000) when they are waiting for a launch, and then bring it down to actual price when product arrives, that way no hurt feelings, and no one complains "Damn, I wanted to pay $2000 for that" versus "Man you said it was gonna be $50 cheaper last week when you had none!".

I'll believe stock and prices when they are shipping, not just taking requests.
October 31, 2006 5:50:58 PM

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That would be available for PRE-ORDER, not Backorder.

I stand corrected.

and that's true, i think when they're gonna be available for purchase prices are going to be way to high, like with c2d(i remember the first day the e6400 became available on newegg the price was like $499 in the morning, then in the afternoon it went down to $449, or something like that). Unfortunately, we're gonna se a lot of price gauging :cry: 
November 7, 2006 4:28:55 AM

8800gtx sli benchamarks F.E.A.R., Oblivion Outdoor, Far Cry Training
a b Î Nvidia
November 7, 2006 5:59:46 AM

Would be nice if those were referenced with other cards, not just the 8800 on it's own, the numbers otherwise are kinda meaningless.
November 7, 2006 11:11:44 AM

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8800gtx sli benchamarks F.E.A.R., Oblivion Outdoor, Far Cry Training

Nice
Anonymous
November 7, 2006 3:12:28 PM

SLi pictures
He seems to use the two SLi bridge for his SLI test, maybe it's two-way sli to improve bandwith/performance/latencies?anyone?


Only 1 bridge here, but I dont think he ran benchies like that....


Sli score ~17200


14k 3Dmark 06


Peak power comsumption of whole system: ~140W for the card
November 7, 2006 3:29:57 PM

not interested in SLI, since some of us don't have the bank account of a small country http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4812 will give the benchmarks of the 8800 GTX single configuration in Halflife2: lost coast, Prey and Quake 4 ... all are in 1600x1200 with 4xAA/16xAF.
November 7, 2006 3:51:10 PM

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not interested in SLI, since some of us don't have the bank account of a small country http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4812 will give the benchmarks of the 8800 GTX single configuration in Halflife2: lost coast, Prey and Quake 4 ... all are in 1600x1200 with 4xAA/16xAF.


But I am. Kentsfield x6700, SLI 8800GTX, 4gigs of XMS2 ram,
1Kw PSU, monitor - either 16x12 or 19x12. I would like to wait for
the RD600/R600 - But, I'm tired of waiting. To be only marginal faster,
who cares. Since, there will always be something faster. Yorkfield - I
don't even want to think about it.
November 7, 2006 5:14:20 PM

great pics labbbby, thanx for your input
November 7, 2006 5:42:53 PM

Its good that there are varying reviews always on things such as this.
Some SLI, some not. Some compared to high end nvidia current gen and some ATI etc.

I won't initially be able to afford 2 8800GTXs but that doesn't mean it won't be in my future upgrade path eh? hehe

I can't wait any longer either, I'd love to wait for R600 but dang I've been dying just trying to hold out for Q6700 and next gen graphics period. I mean you see the setup I currently have to deal with. Although still not too shabby I don't get what I want out of some current games so why not make a purchase that will last me a couple years.

Ok got long-winded. peace.
November 7, 2006 5:46:27 PM

can't wait to get 8800GTX either, but I won't be able to afford it until jan 07 anyways :cry: 
November 7, 2006 5:55:10 PM

OCing 8800GTX results:

Core 2 Extreme x6800 (3883 MHz), geForce 8800 GTX (575/1800 MHz) - > 19 114 points in 3DMark05;

Core 2 Extreme x6800 (3706 MHz), geForce 8800 GTX (575/1800 MHz) - > 11 314 points in 3DMark06;

Core 2 Extreme x6800 (3883 MHz), geForce 8800 GTX (655/2100 MHz) - > 20 825 points in 3DMark05;

Core 2 Extreme x6800 (3817 MHz), geForce 8800 GTX (660/2080 MHz) - > 12 645 points in 3DMark06;

Core 2 Quad q6600 (3600 MHz), GeForce 8800 GTX (655/2080 MHz) - > 13 717 points in 3DMark06.

SOURCE
November 7, 2006 5:57:55 PM

LEADTEK 8800GTS PREVIEW




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The usual versions GeForce 8800 gtx and GeForce 8800 gts from Leadtek will be announced on 8 November, modifications with the alternative cover will be availble on 13 November. Nothing to communicates about the differences in the characteristics and price.

all video card from the first party will be prepared by producer contract , moreover this not Asus and not Foxconn. According to the specified data, video card with standard design will be relesead by MSI. Company Asus only came forward by the author of this design.

Video card of the second part will had more freedom in their characteristics, NVIDIA even can entrusted their production to several partners. However, to step back from the standard design it will not allow.It is a bit complex to predict for the moment how mych will take the phase from the first to the second part production.
Anonymous
November 7, 2006 6:01:12 PM

The GTS seem like a sweet Card to me. It'll either be a GTS or a X1950 in some flavor that'll get ditch when the R600 comes out. Tough call. Hope they'll be some nice bundle of 680/8800 that would be sweet Im in the US for another month or so, my take advantages of newegg and zipzoom!

November 7, 2006 6:06:24 PM

GEFORCE 8800 GTX WATER BLOCK DATE:2006-11-07





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The first data about the heat level of the g80 chip were worried .many have imagination that those card will heat alot and water cooling system will be immediately required to get the card working cool :) .
Closer acquaintance with video cards GeForce 8800 GTX showed that the power generated is not so terrible, and the cooling of video card can be successfully managed by an air cooling system and furthermore it is far from beeing the noisiest.

today appeared the photographs of the water-block prototype silenx, which was intended for the installation on video card of the model geForce 8800 GTX.

Focus attention, that because of the differences in the design of boards this water-block cannot be installed in to GeForce 8800 GTS, without speaking about other models video card. the studied water-block has contact areas with the majority of the elements: video chip, the discrete chip of input-output,memory microcircuit and the elements of memory subsystem .

From the back side of the printed-circuit board, under video chip is located the pressure plate, which fulfills decorative functions and play the role of supplemental radiator.

In the place of contact with video chip the water-block has copper insertion with the longitudinal channels. The form of channels in the remaining part of water-block is not so promoting - they do not provide the turbulence of flows, which would raise the efficiency of the heat removal. In a word, came out the beautiful and thoroughly prepared water-block, which has debatable constructive solutions. According to the preliminary data, air cooling makes possible to overclock GeForce 8800 GTX to the core frequency of more than 700 MHz, effective water cooling will for sure raise this value.
November 7, 2006 7:24:05 PM

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i know it is early days but i want to see minimum FPS and comparitive screen shots


when i find them, i'll post them 8) :lol: 
November 8, 2006 12:30:54 AM

All 8800GTX Cards Being Recalled???

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November 8, 2006 12:33:01 AM

This has now been confirmed by NVIDIA's Adam Foat over at bit-tech

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Some GeForce 8800 GTX boards that were built through our contract manufacturer had a simple BOM error - wrong resistor value. GeForce 8800 GTS boards are not effected by this.

These GeForce 8800 GTX boards were shipped to our Add-In-Card partners.

We have been working with them to pull these back and change the resistor to the correct value.

We believe we will still be able to hit our hard launch this week (Nov 8th) with the new GeForce 8800 GTX boards.

This is a testament to our execution as well as the execution of our Add-In-Card partners.

Adam Foat, Product PR Manger, Northern Europe."
November 8, 2006 2:00:06 PM

Im building a workstation, dual Clovertowns, and want to place one of these 8 series cards in my new box. theres a reason im not going down the Quadro FX route. add to this 4GB of ram and 2 HD...

My PSU is going to have be how big? 1000w + ?
November 8, 2006 2:11:17 PM

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SLi pictures
He seems to use the two SLi bridge for his SLI test, maybe it's two-way sli to improve bandwith/performance/latencies?anyone?


Only 1 bridge here, but I dont think he ran benchies like that....


Sli score ~17200


14k 3Dmark 06


Peak power comsumption of whole system: ~140W for the card


Damn dude, I wonder how big his PSU is lol
November 8, 2006 2:37:22 PM

Looks really nice. By the way, thus the 8800GTX will come with the two bridges? As far as I know SLI motherboards comes with only one SLI bridge.
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