I currently have a MSI fx5600-128VTDR that was paired up with an AthlonXP 3000. Well, I sold the MB/CPU/RAM and was looking for something to drop my old card into. Then I started wondering if I would be better served just getting a board with integrated graphics like a 6150. Would the 6150 be as good as the 5600? I know the 5600's weren't known for being all that great, but it has run everything I've wanted flawlessly.
OK, by now you are wondering what I mean by "as good". What programs and all. Well, gaming is important, but it is usually games similar to Rise of Legends and Guild Wars so I'm sure it will be adequate. What I really want to know is the VIVO features. I want to have video input as well as output to TV. That way I can use it in a quasi-HTPC situation and also store old videos to a digital or DVD format.
Also, I recall that some boards had 6150 graphics that could be OC'ed. Anyone remember which boards? And since it will probably be January before I buy, is there a better IGP solution on the horizon? I'm using IGP as a stepping stone. Later, once DX10 cards have matured a bit, I'll upgrade to discreet.
As a side note, is there a riser/adapter card that will allow an AGP card to go into a PCI or PCI-E slot?
I'm not exactly sure of the performane capabilities of an FX5600, but as a general rule of thumb avoid integrated graphics. They share you system RAM and are notoriously weak. Go with the FX5600, even if it's just to free up your RAM.
the 6510 IGP is better than a 64 bit fx5200. The fx5600 will be better than the IGP, but not by so much as to count the IGP out of consideration. The 6150s do have an integrated TV encoder, and some boards have TV out (composite) or a TV out header with a panel located in a PCI slot cover. As far as video in, I don't think that's supported in the 6150s.
The mobo manufacturer that gives the user the ability to overclock the 6150 igp is Gigabyte. Not sure what mobo model it is though.
By January, Intel's GMA X3000 drivers should be on the level, which, on paper at least, should be the best IGP around, until ATI releases their new IGP (RS600)
If the IGP only uses 128MB RAM and I use a 1 gig stick, I still have 896MB free. I know that Win XP fully loaded enjoys 500MB or so used, but I'd still have another 400MB for programs to use. It wouldn't be all that difficult to fill 400MB, I know, but I dont think the extra 128MB will make that much of a difference, do you?
It's not very bad, heck I'm running Windows Vista RC2 with Aero and Sidebar with 896MB RAM cuz my 6100 is taking 128MB, and I have around 300MB free. The amount of RAM will turn into a problem if you run modern games, but considering its IGP, I don't think you're gonna do that.
I see you're using a 6100, SEALBoy. Do you notice any slowdowns with Vista? The 6150 will be slightly faster, but I dont think it will be enough to make much of a difference. Do Aero and the new funky features runs smoothly and seemlessly as if you were using a discreet card?
Yes everything appears to run just as smoothly as it did on XP. The only thing is that I believe it takes a little longer than normal for the UAC boxes to pop up cuz everything in the bakcground has to be blacked out, but I don;t know if thats due to the videocard.
To be honest, after trying Vista on my 6100, I honestly don't know why people rant about the Aero graphics requirements.