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trouble overclocking (P5B Deluxe, E6600, OCZ XTC 6400 2GB)

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My set up is as follows.
Cooler master Preatorian 730
Side vent CPU duct replaced with inflowing 74CFM 120mm fan.
Standard 120mm front fan blowing in.
Standard (2) 80mm rear fan blowing out.
Asus P5b Deluxe WiFi with Bios 711
E6600
OCZ2G8002GK (Rated 800 @ 2.1vDIMM @ 5,5,5,15,5,42,4,14,5,11)
Zalman CNPS7700-CU
eVGA 7900 GS 256MB
Thermaltake 550W (2 years old)

I can get my computer rock solid stable with the following settings:
CPU:
334 FSB
1.3250 vCore
diabled spread spectrum
9X CPU multiplier
...
memory settings
vDIMM 2.15
1:1 or 5:4 (668 or 835)
5,5,5,15,5,42,4,11,5,14 (in northbridge settings) I got these from memory reader in windows at full stock settings.
Disable some memory setting after these...
...
No matter how I set the memory either 1:1 or the next higher, the memory always reads as PC5300 on boot up. If I do not overclock at all the memory boots up just fine at PC6400
...


What I want to do is to get my memory up to the PC6400, which i think would be great at:
400 FSB
8X CPU multiplier
1:1 memory setting
1.3250 to 1.3750 vCore
2.15 vDIMM
with standard settings.

Where I have problems is that system hangs on bootup even when i push the vCore up to as high as 1.5000 volts and or vDIMM up to 2.25 volts. (Manufacturers maximum setting to keep lifetime warranty) 2.1 volts should be plenty, but I push it up slightly just to see if that is the bottle neck...

Can someone help me get my system up to its best speed?

Core temp during ORTHOS third option tops out at 56 for core #0 and 58 for Core #1.

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You are right, it is not that bad. 25% is quite nice. I do have a pet pieve of the memory that I paid extra for does not seem to be living up to its stated potential. maybe it is my settings, the mother board or even the memory itself.

I am trying to get all my parts locked into their top performing position. Not just the processor which will get bottlenecked if the rest of the system is performing poorly.

Reply to astonerii

And now that stupid chip is gonna tell you how much you can OC it!? pffff NO
Here's what you gonna, that has been proven quite helpful when ppl are having trouble:
Lower vCore and vDimm one notch at a time until youre no longer Prime95 and memtest stable, at 334Mhz FSB (doesnt matter if voltages get below stock).
The move up the FSB by 7~10Mhz at a time at this voltages until youre no longer stable, when you arent, add a notch to vCORE.
After youll need to add a notch, move up the FSB by 7~10Mhz at a time at this voltages until youre no longer stable, and you get the drill.

Keep a 1:1 ratio and notice youre memory shouldnt exceed 2.1v when you reach 400Mhz FSB.

Reply to rwaritsdario

It seems my ignorance of how ASUS determines how it's motherboard reports memory settings is the real problem. After an OCZ tech told me that ASUS reports the memory PC#### value based on the multiplier I figured out tha: Any time I have it set to 1:1 it will report the memory as 266 * the Inverse of the memory setting * 2 = 533 or PC4300 or if I set it to 4:5 it will = 667 or PC5300 and if I set it to 2:3 it will = 800 or PC6400. This is regardless of the factual FSB overclock.

This means that I am actually getting my best performance from the memory, as when i am at 334 FSB my memory at 4:5 is equal to the real value of 835 which is quite acceptable. I now have vDIMM 2.1 and vCORE 1.325. Using ORTHOS I was able to get 2 hours of CPU and some Ram check and go 9 hours of CPU stress with no errors.

Next on my list is to tackle my video card. It will overclock to a swift 584/800, but using some morphing program, it overheats and shuts down. So I need to find its sweet spot.

Reply to astonerii

You will only notice that "performance boost" by benchmarking it. No real-life worthwhile increases...

So you have abandoned the OCing project?

Reply to rwaritsdario

Abandoning?
Not really. I am currently stuck at the 334 FSB speed due to temperature on the CPU which reaches 55C+ during ORTHOS CPU stressing. I know the CPU is rated for something like 60.1 degrees, but I also hear the higher the temperature the lower the overall life expectancy of the chip.

I am looking into some water cooling alternatives to allow me to get up towards the 3.6 and maybe even the 4.0. These are looking mighty expensive...

Looking at the:
MCP655 water pump $85
Resevior, not really going to be picky about this item. Plan to use 1 or two of them in the bottom one or two 5.25" drive bays. $10-$30
2x 80mm radiators (if they will fit side by side.) $27x2=$54
1x 120mm radiator. Might go with a 120x240+ if I decide to risk cutting up my nice Cooler Master Praetorian 730 case. $40 or $80 for two. Plus cost of equipment or someone to modify my case.
1/2 inch on all the fittings and hoses. $??
Then the water blocks. The P5B Deluxe/WiFi seems to have a descent NB cooler with its heat pipe setup, so I might leave that as is for now.
Would like to cool the
SB $20
CPU $25-$75
VGA $25-$75
$284 low ball estimate, and $454 at the high end. I think if I could get my cost down to $200 I might be able to swing it, if that $200 will buy me a significant increase in thermal heat dissipation for at least the CPU and the GPU and overall inside case temperature.

If you can help me pick some inexpensive but quality water cooling items, I might be able to justify it.

Reply to astonerii

Throlling doesnt begin until <80c, so around the 70c yould still be safe. And this are all guesses since temperatures are never accurate.

Did you lower the vCore and vDimm like I told you? temps will go down considerably this way...

Reply to rwaritsdario

I tried lowering my vCORE once before, started at like 1.2000v then went up one step at a time. It would not post at all under the CPU baseline of 1.3250. Maybe it was some other settings, so i will give it a go when i get home. As for vDIMM, I can try those out a bit.

I keep reading on lots of forums that as speed increases you have to keep lowering temperature to stay stable.

Reply to astonerii

Is that you did it the wrong way lol. Start from stock, or the last known stable and lower it a notch at a time.

Reply to rwaritsdario

Well, I found a reasonable water cooling kit from Alphacool at a price I can feel comfortable getting my feet wet, so to speak with.

My wife even seems excited to see me put it together.

Wouldn't you know it though, I was a bit too busy to do any reboots last night.

Reply to astonerii

Well, I was able to get my computer to run Orthos CPU stress at 1.3125, but I get errors after only 45 seconds at 1.3000. Core temp is solid at 55C, does not seem to make any real difference with respect to temperature.

I sure hope I get my water cooling kit soon.

Reply to astonerii
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