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October 30, 2006 10:40:55 PM

hey i need advice. got a prescott 2.93 ghz 1mb cache with 1gb and one 16x pci-e slot, my card is a radeon 300se and it needs to be stomped on then burned and thrown in the garbage, my foot is just itching to stomp!! I have a 300 watt psu, is ther any good cards out ther that dont need a bigger psu? should I buy a 256mb or 512 card? cost doesn't matter, just tell me what to buy and Ill get it tomorow. thanks guys. ps. im not a fan of ati or geforce so i dont care what brand name.

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October 30, 2006 10:42:57 PM

pps, I know ill probably have to buy a bigger psu for a good card.
October 30, 2006 10:48:08 PM

Get your money together, then read the "Best gaming cards" sticky at the top of the this forum.
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October 30, 2006 11:02:35 PM

hum that didn't really help since ther all american prices and the fact that money isn't a factor for me,as long as its under 600 $
October 30, 2006 11:07:44 PM

For your system I would recommend a 7600GT. Maybe as high as 7900GTs and X1800XTs.

I would save up money for a whole new system though.
October 30, 2006 11:20:09 PM

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money isn't a factor for meas long as its under 600 $


......................................... :roll:
October 30, 2006 11:40:48 PM

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For your system I would recommend a 7600GT. Maybe as high as 7900GTs and X1800XTs.

I would save up money for a whole new system though.
ok sum1 else recommended the 7600gt, so i might go with that. well I have enough saved up to buy a better computer than Tom himself but i just need a quick fix untill vista/dx10. ok i found a 7900gt for 370$ canadian but its 256 mb, would it be better to go over to ati and get a 512mb? i dont know the diff.
October 31, 2006 12:33:42 AM

that would depend on the series of GPU from ATI.....
October 31, 2006 12:40:23 AM

You won't notice a difference between 256 and 512. It's not a factor.
a b U Graphics card
October 31, 2006 1:09:29 AM

I'd take a X1950 pro over a 7900GT, probably cheaper too.
a b U Graphics card
October 31, 2006 1:34:07 AM

Well if I was going to get something to tide me over until I can get a stable and economical Dx10 video card, it would be the x1900gt. I would also replace your PSU, since you are probably on the limits of your system now.
October 31, 2006 1:43:52 AM

Snice your in canada ill use tigerdirect Canada as a reference.. you might find the same card cheaper elsewhere.

XFX 7900GT is a good card, i currently have it and it can run everygame i
play at the highest resolution and settings.
Here is one for 300$ but it has a 40$ mail in so its 260$
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

There is also the X1900GT, by HIS with a very nice Cooling system allowing for maxium overclocking. 36 "shader pipes" 256MB GDDR3 for 317$

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

You want the 7900GT if you run at high resolutions like 1600x1200 but if you run only at 1024x768 or 1280x1024 you should lean towards the X1900GT as it has a better image quality and run games faster then the 7900GT
October 31, 2006 2:14:36 AM

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XFX 7900GT is a good card, i currently have it and it can run everygame i
play at the highest resolution and settings.


You dont play Oblivion, or Fear do you??



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You want the 7900GT if you run at high resolutions like 1600x1200 but if you run only at 1024x768 or 1280x1024 you should lean towards the X1900GT as it has a better image quality and run games faster then the 7900GT


What?? doesnt that last line negate your reasoning of purchasing the 7900GT?
October 31, 2006 2:18:26 AM

sorry for double post
October 31, 2006 2:20:03 AM

Im not going to recomend a card because that system is a mess big time. buy a whole new system adn if you actualy do care about vista use your current video card (shudders) till a dx 10 card comes out. no real point in waiting on upgrading the computer vista wont really change anything other then the need for a dx10 card if you use that fruity gui.

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You want the 7900GT if you run at high resolutions like 1600x1200 but if you run only at 1024x768 or 1280x1024 you should lean towards the X1900GT as it has a better image quality and run games faster then the 7900GT


That doesnt make any sense at all actualy.
October 31, 2006 2:24:18 AM

o ok thanks guys, i guess ill lean towards the x1900 since i have a smaller resolution. but i just got a post saying that card is way to good for my system and that a new power suply probably wont comply with my mobo. damn im confused. i think im gona call my pc suplier tommorow and ask b4 i buy something. but if i can't get a new psu im stuck at 300 watts, whats the best card i can get with that?
October 31, 2006 2:29:38 AM

ok dont listen to that guy who was comparing the cards by resolution that statment just made no sense at all. However all i can say is goodluck with that 300watt and i hope we dont see computer BSOE wont start ext ext when you get that new high powered card.
a b U Graphics card
October 31, 2006 2:30:10 AM

Do you have some more specifics about your system (model#, etc.)? Is this a home build? What brand of PSU do you have and what is on the 12V rail? The data is usually on a sticker mounted on the side of the PSU for reference. With 300W there isn't much room for upgrade, I believe. Don't give up, there is something that could possibly be done.
October 31, 2006 2:32:09 AM

lol i got 3 more posts b4 i can reply, i guess im a slow typer. ok so now im really confused and im about to commit suicide :x i think i might just buy a card and c if it works, if it doesn't ill return it and buy the next worst thing (if that makes sence), and if that doesn't work ill quit gaming untill dx10.
October 31, 2006 2:42:26 AM

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Snice your in canada ill use tigerdirect Canada as a reference.. you might find the same card cheaper elsewhere.

XFX 7900GT is a good card, i currently have it and it can run everygame i
play at the highest resolution and settings.
Here is one for 300$ but it has a 40$ mail in so its 260$
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

There is also the X1900GT, by HIS with a very nice Cooling system allowing for maxium overclocking. 36 "shader pipes" 256MB GDDR3 for 317$

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

You want the 7900GT if you run at high resolutions like 1600x1200 but if you run only at 1024x768 or 1280x1024 you should lean towards the X1900GT as it has a better image quality and run games faster then the 7900GT




What dont you get? the 7900GT has 24 pipelines and 470/1320(recommanded) and it is said that the Nvidia brand it better if you run Higher resolutions, note also in this case it is cheaper then the X1900GT.

The X1900GT is the scaled down version of 1900XT only difference is Clockspeed and number of Shader pipelines 36* instead of 48* All ATI card can run x6 AA so better image quality whereas the 7900GT is only x4 AA, ALSO note that the X1900GT can run AA and HDR at the sametime whereas the 7900GT can only run HDR or AA not both.

I dont play obvilion, but i do play fear and i do player fear on highest settings and get 40FPS average

"What?? doesnt that last line negate your reasoning of purchasing the 7900GT?"
the 7900GT and X1900GT are comparable cards in the price range, the 7900GT is a good card im just offering a comparison, in which i lean more towards the X1900GT because of its 36* shader pipelines.

Here are some tests DONE with the XFX 7900GT and the X1900GT, FEAR and Oblivilion are included :roll:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/08/09/a_tale_of_two_gt...

As for a power supply to run either card just upgrade 100 watts and your will be fine. Heres a termal lake for 58 and its 430W
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

"System Requirements for 7900GT
Minimum of a 400 Watt power supply.
(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 20 Amps.)
Minimum 500 Watt for SLI mode system.
(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 28 Amps.)
An available 6 pin PCI-E power connector (hard drive power dongle to PCI-E 6 pin adapter included with card)"
(assume the same for the X1900GT)
October 31, 2006 2:47:35 AM

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Do you have some more specifics about your system (model#, etc.)? Is this a home build? What brand of PSU do you have and what is on the 12V rail? The data is usually on a sticker mounted on the side of the PSU for reference. With 300W there isn't much room for upgrade, I believe. Don't give up, there is something that could possibly be done.
ok i was wrong, it was 350w, from atx. well i ripped the sticker off and all it really says is that its an intel d915glvg. it was built from mdg, some company in canada. the sticker shows were all the components are laid out and in writting it says see installation guide for important information regarding installation of add-in modules! ahah go figure i dont have that guide! sigh...
October 31, 2006 2:49:38 AM

the part were you said the ati was only good for low resolutions made no sense at all the rest isnt what i was talking about. it is a "stripped" 1900xt i wouldnt personaly get it but it by no means is a BAD card. Nvidia cards typicaly DONT run better at higher resolutions however there are exceptions it depends on how the programmers make the game. In the past 3 years of looking at these benchmarks ATI cards typicaly fair better in higher res gaming. Not that i actualy care which he gets just the statment about the resolutions was vary missleading.
October 31, 2006 3:03:14 AM

damn missleaders! may they burn in hell for eturnity! lol i dont care about either high end card anymore because i got more than one post saying it probably wont work on my rig. so now im in the market for a lower-end card that will be better than a radeon 300. which is probably any card over 2 dollars but w/e.
October 31, 2006 3:09:48 AM

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Do you have some more specifics about your system (model#, etc.)? Is this a home build? What brand of PSU do you have and what is on the 12V rail? The data is usually on a sticker mounted on the side of the PSU for reference. With 300W there isn't much room for upgrade, I believe. Don't give up, there is something that could possibly be done.
o ya, i dont know what you mean buy " what is on the 12v rails". only thing on the sticker that mentions 12v is a little square pic that says 12v pwr (2x2), damn i know im a newb, sry.
October 31, 2006 3:28:52 AM

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and it is said that the Nvidia brand is better if you run Higher resolutions,


ok.........where is this said? and who exactly is saying it?


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the 7900GT and X1900GT are comparable cards in the price range, the 7900GT is a good card im just offering a comparison, in which i lean more towards the X1900GT because of its 36* shader pipelines.



Which is it??? if their so comparable, and you say you "lean" more towards the x1900gt, why are you recommending the 7900gt? are you bipolar?? you say one thing and turn around then state the opposite.
October 31, 2006 4:26:27 AM

Example of the sticker on a Thermal Take PSU (I am not recomending buying this PoS, it was the first one I saw on the main page of newegg that had a good picture)
+3.3V@20A, +5V@30A, +12V@18A, -5V@0.5A, -12V@0.8A, +5VSB@2A
The sticker is likely on the side of your PSU.

What is important to know about your old psu is how manny amps the +12v rail(s) has. But you may as well plan on budgeting 70-120cad for a new PSU unless your going for another really low end card.
October 31, 2006 8:52:39 AM

SIMPLE solution: Buy an X800XL. Great performance for the price (old tech though, no SM3.0), no need to upgrade your PSU, leaves a lot of $ in your pocket. Doesn't even need a power connector, performs very similarly to a 6800GT or 7600GT. Cuts through all the confusion and gets you a huge upgrade.

BETTER solution if you want to spend the money: Buy a solid price/performance card like X1950 Pro and get a new PSU to power it. Xclio 450BL is a solid, quiet PSU at a low price. Probably plenty of power for now, though you'll want something bigger if you plan on buying one of the new DX10 cards coming out in the next few months. I don't recommend spending more than about $200 on a video card with the system you have. Adding a gig of ram could help in some situations. Still leaves you $ to upgrade later.

As for being in a country other than the USA, I don't know jack. My prices are based on being in the USA, so you'll have to adjust for that. You could check eBay or Yahooauctions...they both have sites for different countries. Just remember that prices and service will vary wildly on an auction site. Good luck. :D 
a b U Graphics card
October 31, 2006 9:07:05 AM

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Example of the sticker on a Thermal Take PSU (I am not recomending buying this PoS, it was the first one I saw on the main page of newegg that had a good picture)
+3.3V@20A, +5V@30A, +12V@18A, -5V@0.5A, -12V@0.8A, +5VSB@2A
The sticker is likely on the side of your PSU.

What is important to know about your old psu is how manny amps the +12v rail(s) has. But you may as well plan on budgeting 70-120cad for a new PSU unless your going for another really low end card.


Yes, sorry that is what I should've posted :-( I forget sometimes to state the question a little better so most people can understand what I'm asking. I just started understanding the PSU limits after I blew one up on the last build (because it was a PRESCOTT!!! and it ran waaayyyy tooo HOT).
October 31, 2006 6:12:18 PM

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SIMPLE solution: Buy an X800XL. Great performance for the price (old tech though, no SM3.0), no need to upgrade your PSU, leaves a lot of $ in your pocket. Doesn't even need a power connector, performs very similarly to a 6800GT or 7600GT. Cuts through all the confusion and gets you a huge upgrade.

BETTER solution if you want to spend the money: Buy a solid price/performance card like X1950 Pro and get a new PSU to power it. Xclio 450BL is a solid, quiet PSU at a low price. Probably plenty of power for now, though you'll want something bigger if you plan on buying one of the new DX10 cards coming out in the next few months. I don't recommend spending more than about $200 on a video card with the system you have. Adding a gig of ram could help in some situations. Still leaves you $ to upgrade later.

As for being in a country other than the USA, I don't know jack. My prices are based on being in the USA, so you'll have to adjust for that. You could check eBay or Yahooauctions...they both have sites for different countries. Just remember that prices and service will vary wildly on an auction site. Good luck. :D 
THANK YOU! finaly an answer that sounds good, 2 many fight going on about whos rite and wrong.
October 31, 2006 6:20:00 PM

damn i can only get the x800gto, whats the equivilant on the ndvidia side.
October 31, 2006 6:41:47 PM

The 7600GT is the slightly better equivalent to the X800XL, plus it supports sm 3.0 and OpenEXR HDR.
October 31, 2006 6:57:24 PM

ok thanks, well i got 4 diff answers but 7600gt was recommended the most so ill try it.
October 31, 2006 7:25:43 PM

you really can't go wrong as long as your power supply is sufficient. theres really no point in upgrading that system unless you have a decent power supply.
October 31, 2006 7:26:49 PM

this is an easy question to answer. EAX1950Pro for $165 on Newegg.com
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