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October 31, 2006 12:24:32 AM

i saw bad reviews of

MSI P965 Neo-F
GigaByte GA-965P-S3
GigaByte GA-945P-S3

Now i m all confused of what motherboard to buy, here are the specs i want

1) For Core 2 Duo 6600
2) 4 Slot DDR2 Ram
3) Wide range and easy Ocing
4) No On-Board Graphic Card, And have a 16x PCI Slot for my MSI NX7900GTO
5) Support SATA2
6) 10/100/1000MB lan , HD Audio

Juz Give suggestion on Any motherboard to buy, my buget is 130 but if its more ex i still may consider!
a b V Motherboard
October 31, 2006 12:58:53 AM

I would not consider this a "bad" review:
Hardwarezone Review MSI P965 7/21/06
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?id=1987&cid=6&pg=1
However, many on this forum recommend the 965 S3 mobo for overclocking.
I have no firsthand knowledge of this board. Read through some of the posts on this. Avoid the 945 chipset.
October 31, 2006 12:59:21 AM

I have a Gigabyte GA-965P-DQ6 and I think its the best.
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October 31, 2006 1:01:25 AM

is msi or gigabyte better?
a b V Motherboard
October 31, 2006 1:05:34 AM

Not a brand issue. Both are good.
Ask sruane about his experience with the DQ6, another viable option as long as you only use 1 videocard.
October 31, 2006 1:08:05 AM

lol i will get the MSI 1 the Gigabyte is way over my buget
October 31, 2006 1:08:14 AM

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Not a brand issue. Both are good.
Ask sruane about his experience with the DQ6, another viable option as long as you only use 1 videocard.


That was true until just recently. The F6 BIOS with the Catalyst 6.9 drivers will do Crossfire.
October 31, 2006 1:11:42 AM

i m still a little confuse about crossfire what it does?
October 31, 2006 1:20:14 AM

the ga 965 dq6 is great man thinking of getin it
October 31, 2006 10:18:44 AM

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i m still a little confuse about crossfire what it does?


Crossfire is two ATi video cards connected via an external cable to drive one monitor. By using two GPUs you can get some outrageous frame rates at some outrageous resolutions.
here's a demo:
http://ati.amd.com/technology/crossfire/howitworksdemo....
October 31, 2006 12:49:28 PM

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i thought there is a board connecting the 2 Graphic inside the casing

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/2964/m7900gto13ax4.j...


That would be true with Scalable Link Interface (SLI), nvidia's multui-gpu solution. SLI won't work on the 965 chipset, but Crossfire (ATi's multi-gpu solution) will. So - the DQ6 won't run SLI, but will run Crossfire.
October 31, 2006 12:54:06 PM

i getting the MSI NX7900GTO(almost same as Nvidia 7900GTX) so should i use SLI or crossfire
October 31, 2006 1:00:48 PM

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i getting the MSI NX7900GTO(almost same as Nvidia 7900GTX) so should i use SLI or crossfire


You have no choice. The Gigabyte board won't do SLI, and the NX7900 won't do crossfire, so you won't be able to do either crossfire or SLI with that hardware.
October 31, 2006 1:03:08 PM

omg, but k thx very much for your help
a b V Motherboard
October 31, 2006 10:42:29 PM

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Not a brand issue. Both are good.
Ask sruane about his experience with the DQ6, another viable option as long as you only use 1 videocard.


That was true until just recently. The F6 BIOS with the Catalyst 6.9 drivers will do Crossfire.There is another problem. The DQ6 uses 2 PCI-E slots. One runs 16 lanes through the 965 northbridge, the other only has 4 lanes which run through the ICH8 southbridge. This is not a good way to run a dual video card solution. This is also why 965 boards tend to be of the cheaper "mainstream" variety. That 2nd slot will work well for using a PCI-E physics card when they become available though. For those of you who have to have SLI/XFire, a pair of 8x8 or 16x16 slots is what you want.
Otherwise, the DQ6 is a good full-featured, albeit expensive 965 board.
a b V Motherboard
October 31, 2006 10:59:16 PM

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omg, but k thx very much for your help
Don't sweat the SLI/XFire issue. This stuff is for people with money to burn. It only makes sense to run dual cards when you have the highest end equipment. You are right to spend a big chunk of change for 1 good card. In your budget world though, two would be overkill.
Don't discount the Gigabyte board you listed as a viable option even if I was amused by the DQ6 post. The 965 S3 is as good as the MSI.

Gigabyte GA-965P-S3 LGA775 965 ATX Conroe $116+6 10/30/06
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128017
Be careful with your choice of ram with any 965 board though...
November 1, 2006 8:52:03 AM

i love the high end cooler and the stabilty of the Gigabyte board.
My total buget is about US$1700 so it ok

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Be careful with your choice of ram with any 965 board though...


what do u mean by that?
November 1, 2006 9:56:10 AM

he meant that it's not all memory brands that are compatible with the P965 boards. Especially the Gigabyte GA-965P-S3 that I bought 2 weeks ago but I had to sell it back because it was not compatible with my OCZ RAM. Fortunatly, I got 150$ for it so I made profit. So just check the compatibility sheet on the gigabyte site for each motherboard.
November 1, 2006 10:58:40 AM

@sruane What case is that?
November 1, 2006 11:07:09 AM

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@sruane What case is that?


That is a Lian Li case. Here's another look at it.

a b V Motherboard
November 1, 2006 12:50:17 PM

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he meant that it's not all memory brands that are compatible with the P965 boards. Especially the Gigabyte GA-965P-S3 that I bought 2 weeks ago but I had to sell it back because it was not compatible with my OCZ RAM. Fortunatly, I got 150$ for it so I made profit. So just check the compatibility sheet on the gigabyte site for each motherboard.
I guess I should have explained this better. ANY 965 chipset board will be more sensitive to the choice of ram sticks than we are normally accustomed to. In time BIOS upgrades will fix this for most motherboards. The issue has to do with:
a) The 965 chipset wants to see 1.8 volt DDR2 ram. It will POST using that voltage. These new boards were rushed to market without BIOS support for ram SPDs >1.8volts.
b) Standard (value ram) and SOME enthusiast ram will operate just fine at that voltage.
c) High-end, expensive ram for overclocking often needs 2.0 volts to work. These PART NUMBERS cause problems today for system builders.

Pick any brand of ram you want. You will find certain sticks that work fine, and others that won't POST. The lesson: Unless you have a stick of 1.8v cheap ram available to get into your new boards BIOS, you may blame the motherboard for not working properly when it's just a compatibility issue.
November 1, 2006 1:03:39 PM

lol no support to change mem voltage nvm i not going to use those too high end ones
November 1, 2006 1:30:27 PM

Thanks for the pic. The pics do not do justice for the finish on that case on newegg. That is the LIAN LI PC-65B ? It looks like you replaced the back 80mm fan with a 120mm?
November 1, 2006 1:51:15 PM

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Thanks for the pic. The pics do not do justice for the finish on that case on newegg. That is the LIAN LI PC-65B ? It looks like you replaced the back 80mm fan with a 120mm?


Its not a 65B - but a 7BW - it actually has front and back 120mm fans, plus an 80mm blowhole fan.

I got it here:
http://www.crazypc.com/products/81328B.html
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