2 question plz ^_^

hi i'm new here and a friend of mine going to buy new pc so i got some questions plz .....

1- which is better crossfire or SLI "in general"?
2- how big is the difference between a VGA card that support DDR2 and one support DDR3 .... i mean is't big or just like (e.g. 4-6 fps inside the games)

extra thing i forgot to mention which is better

2X ( 3D Fuzion 3DFR76256GSE GeForce 7600GS 256MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Video Card )
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814143054

or
one ( SAPPHIRE 100106L Radeon X850XT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card )
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102688

finally u got any tips regarding VGA i would like to hear it

thanx in advance guys
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  1. 1) SLI is better but tends to limit your choices of other components. Additionally Nvidia cards tend to have better raw fillrate than ATI cards, whereas ATI cards have better shaders, so ATI setups tend to benfit more from crossfire than Nvidia setups do from SLI.

    2) You need to look at the individual benchmarks of the cards. You can't just look at a single aspect of a video card and expect to make a good decision.

    LOOK HERE -> Tom's Interactive VGA charts
  2. Well first of all the X850 is better card. It is almost equal to the GF 7600GT and also GF 7600GS for $89 HOLY SHIAT.! I mean wow that is cheap.
  3. thank alot guys .......

    u might not noticed but u helped me alot " since i can't make my mind on new stuff "

    k extra question here ....is sapphire and XFX cards overclocked?all of them? if not... how do i know it's overclocked one .. and what company's do overclocking to there cards ..... " i hate to overclock the card my self "


    u got any nice offers in newegg -$250 vga card ....i need there links :)
  4. Quote:
    Well first of all the X850 is better card. It is almost equal to the GF 7600GT and also GF 7600GS for $89 HOLY SHIAT.! I mean wow that is cheap.


    x850xt is much much better than 7600gs....as for the 7600gt i could say slighty better..
    benches show same games like ati and same nvidia (x850 versus 7600gt)...but in real life :lol: ati has the upper glove cause of it`s 256 bit interface with the memory....

    for example if you play a certain game at same modest settings and resolution both cards are good ...but if you choose AA and AF settings ati goes ahead ....i`m talking about x850xt and 7600gt....(both tested)
    for example in far cry all settings high and AA set to high (same 4x i presume) 1600x1200 .. the ati card has almost double fps than 7600gt
  5. check the link above ...


    hl2 1600x1200 32bit 4xAA, 8xAF

    ati x850xt has same 32...34 fps
    nv 7600gt has same 28 fps
    nv 7600gs has same 17...23 fps


    hard track 1600x1200 32bit 4xAA in game AF

    ati x850xt has same 34..35 fps
    nv 7600gt has same 22 fps (even in sli mode....)
    nv 7600gs has same 13 fps (olso even in sli mode)


    obly 1600x1200 32 bit no AA 8xAF

    ati x850xt 47...48 fps
    nv 7600gt 37 fps
    nv 7600gs 26 fps


    prey 1600x1200 32 bit 4xAA 8xAF

    ati x850xt 24fps
    nv 7600gt 24fps
    nv 7600gs 16fps

    and the list continues .....

    i`m not saying that you should play at these resolutions and settings ..but this shows the power of the video procesor

    it just happened to play last night far cry at 1600x1200 ....
    same settings and sistem of course resulted in same 50 fps for the ati card and same 20 for 7600gt....
  6. Wether SLi or CF is better is very much a matter of opinion, and something you'll never get a consensus on.

    My personal opinion, fwiw, is that SLi is the more 'elegant' and better implimented solution, that allows you more flexibility in how you set it up.

    However, in most applications, the x1900s and x1950s are the faster cards right now, so in raw performance x1950 CF is better most of the time than 7900GTX SLi

    SLi is right now suffering from a lack of official motherboard support on the Intel side, because the nVidia Intel chipsets are pretty weak overclockers.

    CF meanwhile is officially suported on 975X and P965
  7. Quote:
    Wether SLi or CF is better is very much a matter of opinion, and something you'll never get a consensus on.

    My personal opinion, fwiw, is that SLi is the more 'elegant' and better implimented solution, that allows you more flexibility in how you set it up.

    However, in most applications, the x1900s and x1950s are the faster cards right now, so in raw performance x1950 CF is better most of the time than 7900GTX SLi

    SLi is right now suffering from a lack of official motherboard support on the Intel side, because the nVidia Intel chipsets are pretty weak overclockers.

    CF meanwhile is officially suported on 975X and P965


    aren`t you waiting for the r600 beast :tongue:
  8. Well its the same story as the 7800GTX and the x1800 imho :)

    The nVidia card is going to come out *months* earlier, and I'll get one when it does. Maybe the R600 will end up better, in which case I'll be upgrading again, but if the time taken to launch the R600 is as far behind G80 as the x1800 and x1900 were behind G70, then imho there are not really the same generation, they are like half a generation ahead :D
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    Well its the same story as the 7800GTX and the x1800 imho :)

    The nVidia card is going to come out *months* earlier, and I'll get one when it does. Maybe the R600 will end up better, in which case I'll be upgrading again, but if the time taken to launch the R600 is as far behind G80 as the x1800 and x1900 were behind G70, then imho there are not really the same generation, they are like half a generation ahead :D


    sure no doubt that`s what happened..but remember that x1800 was delayed because of same last minute problems ....
    i hope they learned the lesson ... this year :D

    8800 looks promising but ...i`ll wait to see what happens ....prices options......
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    My personal opinion, fwiw, is that SLi is the more 'elegant' and better implimented solution, that allows you more flexibility in how you set it up.


    IMO that depends on the cards you're using.

    Anything that can do dongle or bridge-less Xfire is more elegant IMO as it has far more flexability on the card combinations and the rendering modes. But I agree, the dongle is less elegant, and the new X1950 solution is similar to the current SLi (with and extra connector/cable) so I think there's an admission of the need for change even from ATi's guys.

    I'd say Xfire can be the most elegant and the worst at the same time dependin on the implementation. However I doubt that itmatter much once it's set up, although the multi-monitor switching and limitations beyond gaming are a hassle on both. The dongle on the high end, just adds to that by also limiting possible output combinations.

    As for the Intel situation, I have a feeling that will change within the next 6-9 months.

    Right now I'd say that Xfire is more flexabille, but that SLi has greater developer support right out of the box, but that Xfire is more adaptable out of the box, which means more user input to make it work though. Xfire theoretically should work on everything, but like any driver solution IMO, needs tweaks to work best.

    SLi is definitely the most widespread, and while people talk about it getting the biggest boost from adding a second card, I don't know how much that matter if the end performance is lower, it's like Xfiring 2 X1600Ps versus 2 X1650XTs I don't care if the XTs get only a 90% boost whereas the Pros get 100% boost, the end result is still the XTs being much faster than the Pros.

    The whole Xfire / SLi thing is kinda funny to me because it's like talking about the top speed and Acceleration of a Veyron vs McLaren F1, and then driving primarily in bumper to bumper traffic.

    I think only large LCD panels 'NEED' it, but if you got the money to burn and don't care, then it should matter SLi vs Xfire so much as TOP FPS in the prefered game regardless of who's providing the solution.
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