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October 31, 2006 10:52:27 PM

Ok, so I've been doing some reading and I think I'm ready to build my first system. I plan to reuse some components from the old clunker to save money. Ease of build is a concern. I want to learn about overclocking and plan to do so, but I would rather have reliability over OC potential in a system (i.e., I would accept an easy to OC, stable 40% OCed sys over a finnicky %70 OCed sys). The system will mostly be used for games, web surfing, light photoediting, schoolwork, etc. I would really appreciate some input on the compatibility of the components I'm looking at, as well as suggestions on ways to increase performance without increasing the price (i.e., replace this component for that component). Hoping to stay around $1000.

case: reuse
cdrw: reuse
disc drive: reuse
psu: Ultra X2 550w modular or Kingwin 520w modular
mobo: Abit AW9D, ASUS P5B Deluxe WiFi, or other
video: XFX GeForce 7600 GT XXX 256MB GDDR3 PCI-e
CPU: E6300 or E6400 with Thermatake Big Typhoon
memory: Update CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 (Perpendicular Recording) ST3250620AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
DVD burner: LG 16X DVD±R Super-Multi DVD Burner With 12X DVD-RAM

Thoughts, suggestions, rants, raves, reviews? Thanks.

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October 31, 2006 11:23:11 PM

the sunbeam nuuo modular550....
reviews are better on it than those modulars you looked at especially since it has a name behind it..or go with a hiper if u have the 89-99 dollars for them....
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...

id also go with a gugabyte ds3 im using it now and i have a good overclock on a 6300 to 2.6 with a-data 667 1 gig.....the ram had the ability to take it to faster stabler speeds than i had when i 1st bought corsair ram....u dont even need 3rd party cooling on the c2d chips as it stays cool even with stock....

id trade the gpu in for maybe a x1950pro or an evga 7900gs so u can either use ur comp for the next 1-2 years before a graphic upgrade or trade up with the evga program to get a dx10 card early....

ur burner is great ull love it i do...and i dont know anything about perpendicular but i read on the forums people think its buggyyy....
November 1, 2006 2:32:09 AM

Ok, points taken.

new component mix-

case: reuse
cdrw: reuse
disc drive: reuse
psu: sunbeam nuuo modular550
mobo: asus p5B-E, or Gigabyte DS3(which model, P or G?)
video: evga or biostar 7900 GS (depending on price. How good is stepup program?)
CPU: E6300 or E6400 with Thermatake Big Typhoon
memory: CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 (Perpendicular Recording) 250GB 7200 SATA, or W D Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 SATA
DVD burner: LG 16X DVD±R Super-Multi DVD Burner With 12X DVD-RAM

With the P5B-E, biostar 7900gs and E6300 the total including shipping is about $1020. Not bad. Any other suggestions? I am especially wondering if I should wait for the new 8 series nVidia cards to come out so the 7 series prices will drop and to wait for Core 2 Quadro to come out so the Duos will drop? It seems the hardest component to choose is the mobo and that is what I would appreciate the most advice on. Gracias.

Edit: Oh yeah, is this stuff Vista and Core 2 Quadro upgradeable?
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November 1, 2006 3:20:31 AM

Don't wait, if you wait, you will never ever buy a new computer.

The DS3 new F7 bios supports kentsfield. I'm not too sure about the Asus P5B.

The DS3 is a great board for some, bad board for others. Since this is your new build, I would be safe and grab the P5B for ease of use IMHO. I love my DS3 though, dirt cheap and damn fast.
November 1, 2006 4:41:06 AM

Thanks for the feedback guys. Is the Asus easier to set up and get working w/o OCing or is it easier to OC? Not sure exactly what to take from your comment. Also, if I choose the Gigabyte, do I want the P or the G as I'm not really sure what the dif is?
November 1, 2006 5:17:22 PM

u want the p965...the ds3 and the s3 are the same except D stands for durable...something to do with capacitors or something....
i have both on two systems one gaming and one partial...no problems so far...but fast and sturdy speeds....i have an 80% OC with both on a C2d 6300 and heard 100 is completly possible with good chipset cooling and ram....imagine 1.8 - 3.6 im running 3.2

i still think ur hard disk is wack...but hey...

get the evga its faster cheaper and can overclock more than the biostar because the KO heatsink covers the ram and the chip plus its better than the stock....i

f u wait till december the prices might get lower but u never know especially if demand is still there for the 7series graphic cards and the supply dries up....also i doubt ull buy an 800 dollar GFX card plus a 1000 watt PSU...be smart like the majority of us and wait till the end of 07 to get dx10 plus all the reviews on vista say its gonna suck hard for gamers and enthusiasts with its end user agreement B.S.
November 1, 2006 9:21:29 PM

Ok. Thanks. Leanin towards the DS3 board. So could you suggest another HDD over the Seagate? Is the WD listed below ok? I definitely don't need more than 250gb and could probably easily do with ~180. Speed is key, but I don't need a Raptor or anything. Stability is also key. Thinking of getting a Thermaltake Aguila case. Additional thoughts?

case: reuse
cdrw: reuse
disc drive: reuse
psu: sunbeam nuuo modular550
mobo: asus p5B-E, or Gigabyte p965 DS3
video: evga 7900 GS
CPU: E6300 with Thermatake Big Typhoon
memory: CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 (Perpendicular Recording) 250GB 7200 SATA, or W D Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 SATA
DVD burner: LG 16X DVD±R Super-Multi DVD Burner With 12X DVD-RAM
November 2, 2006 3:06:28 AM

Everything seems good on the list. DS3 is a great choice, but like I said, you might run into some problems with it (i pray for you that you wont 8) ).

Keep the seagate .10, they are fast and relatively queit.

look up gigabytes website for the difference between the 2 codes, I believe 1 has E-sata and something else, but i do not remember so you might as well just look it up on giga's website.
November 2, 2006 3:48:39 PM

iv only bought ever bought western digital and currently have two brand new Western Digital Caviar SE WD2000JS 200GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb and they are quiet and cool....


id think the seagate is awesome but iv read some crappy reviews but review it look it up and take it how u want....

im a data nut i still have files saved from 1998 when i was with 98se. and wd never let me down...
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