With an unlimited budget, which is your DREAM case?
Total: 119 votes (7 blank votes)
- Thermaltake Kandalf/ Armor Series +LCS
- Thermaltake Tai Chi Series +LCS
- Thermaltake Eureka/Shark +LCS
- NZXT Zero +LCS
- Antec Nine Hundred +LCS
- Lian Li Memorial 20th Anniv PC-777 Series +LCS
- Silverstone TJ07 (SST series! if you want) +LCS
- Silverstone TJ09 +LCS
- CM Stacker 830 Series +LCS
Vote for your "Dream Case". If you had an unlimited budget or someone said that they would buy you ANY case you wanted. Which case would you ask for? Also imagine that you could get any watercooling setup you wanted as well! (So you have to choose a case that will accomodate your cooling system) YaY!
Note: I put LCS for Liquid Cooling System. It is optional. Some of you might say you hate LCS and want Air-cooling. It's up to you. Vote for your DREAM case!
If you don't know how each case looks like, go to newegg.com and search for "ATX computer cases" sorted by "Highest Price"
**If the case you are dreaming of is not included in the poll, pls reply in the forum and tell me your case. I'm sorry I can't put more poll options. I wanted to include the TT MozartTx, Antec P180/P190 and many others. :wink:
Thanks for taking part!
What do you think of the CM Stacker 830?
CM Stacker 830
Questions for the general public.
1. Is this the best "air-cooled" case?
2. Any other suggestions of cases that
a) have good airflow
b) stong and sturdy but not too heavy (less than 20lbs)
c) good looking
d) has a lot of space
3. Must be able to fit the new gen of Graphic Cards (8800GTX/R600) **edited/added 5:30 AM Thailand time)**
***imagine (only imagine) that I have an unlimited budget***
Questions for those who have experience with this case.
1. If I put in 4 side-fans, will the sound be unbearable?
2. How heavy is it now(after you have added in all your components)?Can you carry that to a LAN party by yourself?
Any other opinions....pls put down.
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I personally dont know why you would use that side pannel with the fans. I think that 2 X 120 MM intake with 1X exhaust and 1X top would cool anything you throw at it pretty damn well!
Still you have to buy some quality silent 120mm fan if you want to use that side pannel, last I check the Vantec Stealth and the Panaflo were highly rated.(never tryed panaflo).
The stacker is the biggest case out there my friend that work at the same computer shop as me, assembled two of them and said it was a charm.
Another incredible case is this one:
Innovative airflow, big case, looks like nice cooling!
Waiting for some more reviews!
2 25cm fans and one 120mm exhaust...
I'd still say the CM Stacker 830 is probably better, but 4 120mm fans will make quite a bit of noise (unless you get quieter ones)
You might also want to look at the TT Tai Chi, not as many fans, but its design helps dissipate heat. Also looks damn nice.
A serious case...out of your weight range but you can always start working out! Probably horrible for packing long distances, but it has real handles and you can stack everyone else's computers on top of it at the LAN party without damage or blocking airflow...and the add-in card hold-downs keep everything secure on the road. If you start carrying this thing any distance, I'm sure the FBI or local police will show up to help you out. 8)(may as well use that Homeland Security paranoia to your advantage). I threw a fan speed controller in because the stock fans in this thing will exchange the air in your house every minute and a half - but it'll be well filtered air!. Roomy, easy to work on, totally reconfigurable, comes with a real power supply, and you're definitely going to be the only one with one of these at a gathering. Just eat your Wheaties and don't drop it on any living creatures. With the speed controller it's quiet and menacing at the same time...like the MIB dropped by and forgot to take their machinery home. You could just host the LAN parties and forget packing this thing around if you are concerned about the weight, don't have a strong friend, or don't have a vehicle...lol. I'm an ox so the weight doesn't bother me much - but my gf refuses to even try to move it - she doesn't do Wheaties.
Cooling wise, it has one of the best systems i've seen to date... You can also use the 3.5" drive cages as wind tunnels for your cpu or gpu (as long as there are no HDD's in them)..
Definitly check it out...
Also there is the NZXT Zero which is equivalent to the CM Stacker 830...
I have one question on this topic that may influence a purchase:
If someone is looking for a mid-tower, which ones may fit the new 8800 vid cards?? Or is a full tower needed? Assuming 12" long (the card....get your minds out of the gutter ), what will house it without hitting the drive bay cage?
Is P180 considered full tower? Will the 900 work?
For anyone (including myself) considering a move to G80/R600, getting a case that isn't a monster would be ideal...........
(Edit - tried to add an image...didn't work)
I mean, why can't I boot windows off a 8 gig flash drive (beside the obvious fact that windows wouldn't want me doing that)? MS is doing the right thing by ridding us of IDE slots (a step in the right direction)... and mobo's are already removing serial (they need to get rid of PS/2...)
meh, enough ranting, back to your regularly sheduled programming.
And if you're worried about noisy fans, here's your solution...seven of these bad boys...
As for the 80mm top exhaust fan, I just got an 80mm to 120mm adapter. Cools my computer down amazingly. I have my x2 4800+ clocked at 2.63 ghz per core, and it idles at 27C and loads at 42C.
Just as good as the Stacker 830, and 100 dollars less.
Same price as the Antec NineHundred, but it's bigger (much bigger) and mores a lot more air.
And lastly, don't be fooled by those huge 25cm fans. They operate at only 800RPM and move less air than a Thermaltake Thunderblade.
EDIT: The Antec NineHundred is a nice case, but it is REALLY SMALL. I went to install a 7900GTX in there, and there as not even an inch between the card and the hard drives. If you want good air flow at a cheap price in a big case, the NZXT Zero gets my vote.
5 -120mm fans (1 vent top, 1 vent rear CPU, 2 intake front, 1 internal pushing over psu)
I also have a couple of full tower antec cases that i've modded a bit...
8-80mm fans (1 vent psu, 2 rear vent, 3 intake front side, 1 cut for intake for psu with vent shaft)
1-92mm fans (intake, cut for cpu with vent shaft)
3-120mm fans (2 top vents, 1 intake over sli cards)
5-80mm fans (1 vent psu, 2 rear vent, 2 intake front)
4-120mm fans (2 cut vent top, 1 cut cpu intake, 1 cut sli intake)
I'm sorry i can't hear you...I'm deaf.
Until now...the most suggested ones are:
Stacker 830 (mostly from me ...LOL)
Stacker 831 (??)
Antec Nine Hundred
will edit these later when more suggestions are given.
Thanks all for replying!
You SHOULD start a poll....but start 2: 1 for unlimited budget and 1 for limited......high end cases and mid-range. And which of those can house DX10 cards should be considered
About the case lenght, that was a rule of thumb based on my knowledge/observation, it might not always apply and dont go throwing that number around because people will wonder how you came up with that =).
It's just the general size of roomy Case is -30mm/+60mm++...
I've just read a french review(wich happen to be my 1st language) and they said the TJ09 was incredible, but somewhat loud case. Especially from HD vibration that rippled thru the aluminuim. It has little rubber padding but it does'nt work as well as the P180.
Over all temps were really good translated page
The Antec nine-hundred might be small, but I think its very well designed... not to mention if you have too room of a case then your not going to be cooling anything, you want the air to blow over the heatsinks and out the exhaust as much as possible...
the power supply at the bottom, my power supply have a 120mm fan facing downwards, it does not work with this casing.
antec do not have dvd/cdrom becel, which like silverstone, totally unforgivable.
antec nine hundred also made of steel ( total downgrade from my last lian li casing)
other than that. it is best cooling designed mid tower casing in the market right now.
from the design, if you have the right PSU, it will be cooler than coolermaster stacker 830. superior design.
I wonder about the bottom mounted PSU, Can't you just turn the PSU upside down so the fan pulls air from the top... shrug... I would think so...
Either way, I've yet to see cases with better cooling (Unless you stick an obscene number of fans in there, which is just overkill)
are you sure you want to rotate your psu upside down,
i would think not. it is design to work best in one position, not inverted.
the huge heat sink on power amp will snap one day and blow up your whole computer.
never invert it.
Antec nine hundred - excellent airflow
not the number of fans. but the position of the fans and airflows.
it is super design.
I mean top notch design.
pls antec make an all aluminium[/quote] , after lian li case, i cannot go back to steel. no no no.
antec pls add filter in the front too
also make a mesh below the power supply place. and please put a disclaimer to the people who want to invert their power supply, thanks antec.
If you dont carry your case around, Steel is fine, seems to absorb more sound/vibration/elctromagnetism then Aluminium...
Im positive you can invert you PSU, usually it's symetrical and your 120mm will act as a bottom exhaust.
I like the TJ09 they have a little grill for air intake for the bottom PSU, nice touch.I saw a review where they stated that you could use it normally or inverted depending on your preference... I dont particularly care for front bezel, get a black case, get black drives. and its all good =)
And I don't know any PSU's with a top mounted fan... shrug...
look at this psu for example
the power transistors have huge heat sink attached
and power transistors only have 3 small tiny legs, solder onto the board
by putting it upside down
all the weight of heatsink on those poor legs
you are reducing the life span of the PSU
it is not design to work upside down
dun do it.
also i need dust filters and glommets to reduce hd vibration
*the ASUS A8N32 is a hot mobo, ASUS techsupport said its operating range is 40C-60C
I'm wondering if there are some out there that have removable drive cages that are mid-tower. Remember, 12" clearance from rear of case to drive cages, MINIMUM, is needed.
I'm digging the Thermaltake Armor Jr but I can't tell if it will have enough clearance. Or what about getting an adapter to put a HDD in a 5.25 bay?
Need a mid-tower that's DX10 capable that won't break the bank!!!!
I took the front panel off as it got in my way a bit when burning discs, but even with it off it still looks great. The 4 usb and 1 firewire port up front are much handier than most cases. And the built in handles make it easy to carry, and it's very lite for it's size, of course it's much heavier when filled up.
I built a system with a silverstone TJ09 last week for a friend, sturdier and slightly better fit for some parts, but overall I'd say it's just about equal, more sophisticated appearance though. I really like the futuristic design of the 830 though. The side's aren't very weak in my opinion, like any other aluminum sides, they just look better.
Your case is AWESOME!! Nice modding! For looks....the Kandalf really looks great! Do you think the Kandalf and Armor series have good cooling (if i use only air-cooling)? Also, do you think the Dx10 cards will fit?
What is the major difference between the Kandalf and Armor? Why did you go for the Kandalf (your opinion pls )
Also, the fan that i see mounted on the side...is it a 140mm or 160 or 300mm fan? Air in or air out? I know its probably out but just asking hehe!
Some people say that having side fans "disrupt" the flow of air from the front to the back. Is this true?
Cool! Thanks for sharing your experiences. I was really hyped up about the side fans and all. but it seems to not be so good. Have any you tried putting in all 4 fans and turning them on low, moderate, and high speed? How loud are they?
and Michaelahess.....does the TJ09 have a see-through side panel(full or partial)? It does look very sturdy.
When will Tom's Hardware give us a review of medium-tower and full-tower cases? Would be nice if they had a "TOP 5 Tomshardware Recommendations List" (make it a sticky that is updated every month or two.... i know you guys here have a LOT of work and stuff to review) for Cases, PSU, CPU, GPU, Mobo, Speakers, Mice, Keyboards, etc.
Anyways....not complaining or anything. Love your reviews! Looking forward to reading everyday!! (I login "almost" everyday!)
Dont bother not many/not any people from THG comes in THGC...We could do a sticky with best case in different price category with strength and problems with a bunch of review...
Who's up for it? I can help =)