Just as the shock from the initial performance leap of Core 2 Duo wears off, Intel "leaps ahead" with a doubled-up version. Are we ready?
Just as the shock from the initial performance leap of Core 2 Duo wears off, Intel "leaps ahead" with a doubled-up version. Are we ready?
However you 200 watt remark is FUD, off base, and misleading to say the least. This is disappointing, Baron, as you often show signs of getting better.
I think you guys are being a little harsh on Baron.
It seems like that there's always some level of AMD vs Intel tension here, and I know that he starts a lot of it, but there was no mention of AMD here, and while his mentioning power consumption might seem to be alluding to AMD's 4x4, he didn't directly state anything. I think that the issue of power consumption is a good enough point to bring up here without having ulterior motives. The fact that he was wrong may have just been a misinterpretation.
But maybe not. Obviously I can't say for sure, but I think maybe he can be given the benefit of the doubt. Either way, there's already enough AMD/Intel debate that it doesn't need to be brought into this topic, and regardless of who brought it, I think it's best to stick with the topic at hand.
That being said, I'm not quite sure that there's really a need for 4 cores at this point, even for the enthusiast or gamer. Obviously this will be very useful for multithreaded apps, but as of now, Core 2 Duo seems to be more than adequate for almost everything. If you're doing encoding-work, I'm sure these chips have great potential, but unless you just want to be able to run 4 instances of SuperPi, there's no real need for it yet.
Of course, I think within the next few months we'll start to see the need grow. As of now, it seems like we're just waiting on the software industry to do some catching up with multithreading.
But really I think these chips benefit everyone. It certainly isn't hurting anything to have quad-core CPU's on the market, other than maybe a few wallets.
I just hope everyone understands the practical application of these chips. I'm sure there will be a few disappointed consumers who end up buying them thinking it will improve their Quake 4 FPS or something, and then wonder why their Core 2 Extreme seemed faster.
You never said "total system power" in your original post, instead you used the word "single chip solution".I'm not in a good mood today but since you called FUD:
Linkage!
It clearly shows system power over 200W. I expect 4x4 to be that high also. It wasn't a barb but an observation, but of course you little sensitive Intel b!tch boys read what you want.
BTW,
You know what to do.
Just ONE of your beloved 4x4 FX series chips chews up over 200W in a system
They will both be hungry, but C2Q is ONE socket which means heat dissipation is raised a lot for the socket.
4x4 is rated at 125W but will rarely see that much as it's MAX power not average.
I have yet to see FX62 go over 200W system power unles there was SLI or RAID.
Are you talking about the mainboards for 4x4?4x4 is rated at 125W but will rarely see that much as it's MAX power not average.
They will both be hungry, but C2Q is ONE socket which means heat dissipation is raised a lot for the socket.
http://www.pcpop.com/doc/0/156/156988.shtmlIntel Kentsfield Power Consumption
Core 2 Extreme X6800
Idle: 154W
Load: 202W
Core 2 Quadro Q6600
Idle: 198W
Load: 223W
4x4 won't use much more power than 2xOpteron @ 2.6GHz.
110W > 95W & 125W > 95WADAFX62IAA6CS ADAFX62CSBOX AMD Athlon™ 64 FX FX-62 2800Mhz Socket AM2 125W
ADAFX60DAA6CD ADAFX60CDBOX AMD Athlon™ 64 FX FX-60 2600Mhz Socket 939 110W
http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/opteron/Default.aspxI guess all of you have forgotten that most high clocked Opterons (2xxx/8xxx) are rated at 95W and I don't hear of any 2P buyers complaining and those boards have many more features to burn power.
95W != 119.2W & 119.2W > 95WOSY2220GAA6CQ Next-Generation AMD Opteron™ 2220 SE 2.8Ghz Socket F (1207) 119.2W 2 MB .09 micron SOI
OSY8220CQWOF Next-Generation AMD Opteron™ 8220 SE 2.8Ghz Socket F (1207) 119.2W 2 MB .09 micron SOI
:trophy: :roll:Give it up. They will both use A LOT more power than the single versions. They will both bring new levels of perf for multihtreaded apps.
http://bullshit.inc.free.fr/ALL HAIL THE DUOPOLY!!!