Bush and opinions

What are your thoughts about him? What do you predict for America in the next five years, especially in relation to the rest of the world?

I predict Wingy will fock every last one of them and turn the invasion away.

I fail to see the connection between Bush and the next five years, unless you refer to his Iraq "legacy".

My AC compressor has failed (yep - on a hot holiday weekend) ... so I'm headed to a hotel to take an air conditioned room. I'll check out the pool for chicks, and as Rob suggests, I'll look for those whose bush is trimmed or shaved.

My country invaded a sovereign nation and all I got wuz these high gas prices.

Go to Florida? I live in this hot fookin' place ...

**cries** /and sweats

Me neither ... but thanks for the heads up

Yes. The way I see it, we are all resposible for that.

Straight to bed, no dessert for you young man.

Me? Meee? Great. First the broken plate, then the piss around the toilet. And now this. Fcuk!

the true responsibility lies within the apathetic people on both sides of the argument.

[shrug]

indifference is worse then doing something wrong.

Son-of-a-%$#&^*

Why does it always have to be the second cousin of Jabba, why cant it be aliens that look like a young Mathilda May?

That is us. I don't think I am being understood. I believe it is time for the mass public to stop putting their trust in governments and take individual action. We all need to realize that our governments are nothing more than mafias. Unfortunately we accept this.

Talking about these problems and pointing to them as if it lies any farther than our finger tips is a state of illusion. First we must realize and become conscious. We need to adopt a new way of thinking and that can start immediately with each and every individual. This is something that will take an extremely long time, but it needs to start somewhere. It isn't an overnight effect, rather a slow process individuals will need to support for it to get somewhere. Even here, the members seem to be in a state of coma, always knowing the problem to exist elsewhere. What are we waiting for, the savior to come back? Who is that? Jesus? Mohammad? God? Who are we waiting for? What are we waiting for? We allow ourselves to be wronged and this is excusable, why? No one is more responsible for this than us. We are the ones allowing this.

You do realize that people as a whole are fcuking retarded? That's why we have governments. We follow the alpha group, which is the gov't we elect to put in control.

In theory, a gov't is the like the alpha male of the group. We elect to pu them there, or they fight into that position.



But really... As far as Bush goes, I'm sure he realizes he made mistakes. Mistakes happen. If someone makes mistakes, some look back and learn from it, some look back and can't look forward to make another choice, and others realize they're going to make mistakes but they need to keep going forward.

Everyone has mistakes. Some learn from them, others don't.. But he's continuing on his path.

I find we are far more critical of our leaders today than we were in the past. By doing this, we're slowing our own progress.

He was elected to lead, let him lead and people need to stop being so critcal. Some of our greatest presidents in history today would be impreached and removed from office.

Fcuk that.. think about those writing up the Constitution under today's criticism. It would have never happened. Keep the doors closed, write it up among a handful and the people will follow.. as long as its for the people, by the people.

I believe Bush is making long term choices for the US instead of the constant short-term choices we see from past and current leaders.

I doubt Bush would admit to making a mistake and so far I don't think he has learned from them.

yes, he is making long term choices for your country and you would be well to remember them, they will haun't you in time to come. Hell, they have screwed you lot even now.

Perserverance, like a teenager girl's virginity, is gone.

I'm optimisitc about what is coming from Iraq. I believe we're doing a good thing. It may not be how they live their life, but the way they live their life is more of a threat to others than the way we live our lives.

They're working in sporadic groups, no longer large groups. They fight because they have nothing else to do. If they'd stop blowing up places they could get jobs and improve their life.

But no, they'd rather kill people and take their stuff instead of earning in. No honor nor respect.

They're making a big deal about 22 incidents over 4 years in which US military people did not follow the Rules of War (not engagement). So every couple months someone gets killed in custody or someone makes a mistake.. like shooting someone who makes a sudden movement after you already find illegal weapons and anti-American literature hidden around their compound.

I see 5-10 years down the line Iraq will be in a very well off position as the insurgent types will be killed off, leave, or finally give up their pointless fight.

wow you quoted the new york times....


anyways speaking of "casualties" how about 48000 casualities in the states(a year mind you) due to illegal immigrants?

but i guess democrats want to target an unpopular war before they look at home?

so go ahead attack bush all you want, you guys need a fall guy i guess.

we already had the whole pardoning episode here, and im sure both sides "pardon" their friends for personal gain... [shrug]

Bush has had 6 years (almost to the day soon) to do the job right.

Oh give me a MF break!

The source of the problem is not the immigrants and it has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WAR!!!

Geez, you might as well site Breast Cancer as a more vile enemy.

The thing is, the war is costing hundreds of thousands of lives, and the White House is saying "look, the numbers are going down", but they really aren't. the only thing that is changing is how they quantify "deaths".

Not as many "casualties" are happening because of XXX. But when you look at the raw numbers, you see it is all just PR BS.

And Bush had to pardon Libby or his other resigning cronies would not be as inclined to stay in step with their former boss. Like the Amnesiac Gonzalez. If he stood a chance for serious jail time, he might rethink his loss of memory on all these "little" issues.

As for Bush himself being a fall guy? He is an egotistical b00b. He is not the sole Emperor of this nation, but his entire cadre is making moves to try to be as much of one as possible. Insulting their detractors rather than actually answering the questions presented to them, and accusing any that do not fall in line as somehow being anti-American. The irony being that the US is one of the few nations around that you CAN freely question your leaders.

Anyway, you neatly sidestepped my post and proof that the stats are a load of poo and go right back to demeaning the points made without any solid facts, figures or anything else to back it up.

And yes, I quoted the NYT. Big Whoop. You thin that somehow the Daily Standard or the Post is more "fair and balanced". Psssshhhhh!

calm down there snappy.

first off, nyt isnt a very reliable source.... they are known for being biased.

second, i didnt quote any news source, if i did plkease show me.

third, hundreds of thousands of lives? hmm interesting... well if you notice, we arent the ones blowing the **** out of our own citiznes, regardless if you believe it or not, we are liberating a country. as for the stats of the war, you take into account what you have seen as well, so yours is based on news pr as well, isnt it?

just because you quote a leftwing blogger doesnt make those stats correct... how many military casualties have we had? answer that and then proceed from there.

im not diverting the attention from the topic, im just making a basic statement, more of our people are killed via illegal immigrants than then war has killed, 12X as much. so when you want to justify casualties, please be far, far more are caused by illegal immigrants(those the dems want to have amnesty) than by the renegade forces( those the neocons are trying to prevent)

so please tell what was youre argument again?

From whom? We already liberated it. Took under a month. What are we doing now? I'm not trying to be a smart-*** or argumentative, but what in your mind is the reason for going into Iraq?

More people probably died from auto-erotic-asphyxiation than U.S. soldiers did last year, but what point does that make? The neocons aren't trying to prevent anything. U.S. soldiers are just another tool to them. They could give 2 sh*ts about the soldiers. If they did, seemingly everyone of them wouldn't have done everything they could to avoid doing what they've sent our current forces to do.

You're a serviceman, and have a good grasp of military strategy, what have they done correctly in Iraq so far? I think, and clearly this is opinion here, most or nearly all Americans would be more supportive of Iraq if it was clear there was a lot of thought, planning, and resources put into it. Can you really say there has been?

Again, I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I'm trying to understand your point of view.

I see Iraq not so much as a liberation, but sadly as a window of opportunity for people that dislike us more than Saddam ever did. Saddam was relatively easily controlled, he feared losing power and death. These new folk don't.

It's all about oil. Happy now?

Yes, that's right.

The Iraqi people will be delighted to know that their evil dictator who oppressed the Kurds and the marsh arabs has finally been killed. And been replaced by several fundementalist theocracies, backed by armed militias (many of whom aren't Iraqi).

Still, at least the non-existent WMD have been destroyed. We wouldn't want them to be able to fire back when Iran develops a bomb right under the US's noses.

The war in Iraq wasn't a tough decision. It was the wrong one. [/personal opinion]