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Sheepish   11-03-2006 at 12:42:59 AM

Hey,
ive been having problems with my new 320gb 7200.10 sata drive for a week or two now. The latest problem being that it stops XP loading (indefinately sits on the xp load screen) while it is connected.

So... would there be any consequences to powering the drive without the data cable connected and connecting it once xp has loaded? Would it be recognised? Could it damage the drive? I once hotswapped an ide (power and data) which worked but i dont know what pain i caused the drive.

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13thmonkey   11-03-2006 at 12:57:19 AM
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I'm using an asrock board, it allows hotswapping of sata, I think that it is a part of the spec. I'd first some research into the sata spec and make sure, does it mention anything in your manual at all?

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Sheepish   11-03-2006 at 01:01:00 AM
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Motherboard manual (A8N-SLI Deluxe) mentions nothing of hot swap capabilities. Think il go give it a try anyway, its pissing me off :)

/edit
nope not recognised :(

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13thmonkey   11-03-2006 at 01:07:18 AM
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seems to indicate hot plugging is Sata std feature.

http://www.sata-io.org/faqs.asp

I'd really try and find out what that drive is doing first though, can you jumper it to Sata 150 first? see if that is the problem.

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Sheepish   11-03-2006 at 01:22:11 AM
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According to THIS my hdd is already operating on 1.5gb. Infact it came like that and I also read there was no need to play with jumper settings with sata.

Hmm.

It worked for a week or so before this happened (nothing changed, nothing new, just switched on one day and xp wouldnt load).

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ethel   11-03-2006 at 01:23:16 AM
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Quote :

Hey,
ive been having problems with my new 320gb 7200.10 sata drive for a week or two now. The latest problem being that it stops XP loading (indefinately sits on the xp load screen) while it is connected.

So... would there be any consequences to powering the drive without the data cable connected and connecting it once xp has loaded? Would it be recognised? Could it damage the drive? I once hotswapped an ide (power and data) which worked but i dont know what pain i caused the drive.



Sounds risky to me, and it's not really going to solve your problem. RMA it and see if the replacement has the same problem before trying anything else.

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Sheepish   11-03-2006 at 01:25:34 AM
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Ah shit, i really hope it doesnt come to taking it back. Theres a good amount of data on it I transfered over from my dieing 120gb. Since i bought it local i could take it over and ask them to stick it in one of theirs to test.

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mdmoy   11-03-2006 at 01:38:25 AM
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I have that drive in a swappable drive tray and it works fine with Intel D975XBX mobo. However, because the potential that some windows process may be accessing the drive even though it seems idle, and since I use the drive as (one of) my backup strategies (stored in a fireproof safe), I put the system in suspend-to-ram mode (S3 state), pop out the drive, then resume...

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Scooby2   11-03-2006 at 01:40:11 AM
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I really don't know if this has any bearing or is unrelated.

I have the The same drive and was getting BSOD's with ntfs.sys bieng reported as the culprit. The drive would boot up fine to DOS and with the aid of ntfs-pro would mount and use the ntfs partitions. It turned out to be a corrupt MBR. Fixed with an old win98 bootfloppy and fdisk /mbr. (I couldnt get into the xp console)

The cause of the problem seems to have been a bios upgrade as it first occured on the first reboot after.

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mdmoy   11-03-2006 at 01:44:14 AM
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From what I've read, although the SATA spec describes hot-swap capability, I believe it is still up to the controller chipset manufacturer to implement it. Also there is a jumper on the back of the drive that sets speed of interface, I believe....I think it ships with "limit to 1.5" jumpered...

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Sheepish   11-03-2006 at 01:47:39 AM
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The cause of the problem seems to have been a bios upgrade as it first occured on the first reboot after.


!!!
I did upgrade the bios but the drive still worked afterwards (whether it was for one night or several i cant remember). Is there any way to fdisk without a floppy (i dont have any disks hehe) or pendrive? Could i download an restore disk and use it from a working hdd? Or might that result in screwing my C: drive or so? Just being careful :)

/edit
maybe your problem is unrelated to mine. I neglected to mention the new seagate wasnt my boot drive.

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Scooby2   11-03-2006 at 02:29:55 AM
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You could create a boot cd from a win98 boot floppy image (download one) using Nero or some such. I tried windows on another drive and as soon as it tried to load with the Seagate connected BSOD.

Rather than the win98 approach If you can, Boot with Win Xp setup CD and choose the repair console option when available. From there : fixmbr /? will tell you what you need to know.

Neither approach is likely to do any harm. At the very worst a re-partition and format, though I have never seen it be necessary.

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ethel   11-03-2006 at 10:21:37 PM
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OK, another idea would be to buy a 3.5 inch usb2 drive enclosure for the drive (froogle it - you can get one for about $12) - then you could just plug it in when the PC has booted up, and see if the drive is OK.

Good luck with it.

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