X1950XT spotted in stock.

pauldh

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I was just doing some googling and found a little more X1950XT info. Hope to see them in stock and reviewed real soon.

In stock in the UK:(£185.88 Inc VAT)
http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=15436

Diamond link confirms the specs; looks good.
http://www.diamondmm.com/X1950XT256PCIE.php

This site has the Sapphire listed for $280, although gives no photo or specs.
http://google.xtechnology.com/scr/xtcat.dll/item?item=S54931&pr=1&opt=Google&trID=W1345uRTwQUkOKlLXrwXGJQKtTuFHN

Swedish site has the Sapphire listed for 2879 Krona (about $399 USD)
http://www.webhallen.com/prod.php?id=66206

Pic of the Sapphire retail card/box.
http://www.computerbase.de/news/hardware/grafikkarten/ati/2006/oktober/ati_radeon_x1950_xt/

Inq link we discussed already:
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35351
 

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What a disappointment that it doesn't use the cooler on the X1950XTX, looks like a decent increase in ram speed though from 1450Mhz to 1800Mhz while the core speed remains the same...this doesn't (for me atleast) give this card any more appeal, maybe if it had the new cooler

it just looks like the card might run hotter which in turn could make it louder than the X1900XT...too bad ATi i was looking forward to this card

one last note: hope it keeps the good price the X1900XT left with
 

pauldh

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Yeah, the cooler is a dissapointment. Maybe HIS will release an IceQ3 version. But given the short supply and climbing prices of the all the X1900XT's as well as the 7900GTO, it's good too see a new card that hopefully will be near $250, or at least well under $300.
 

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Good find Pauldh. I wanted a x1900xt, but I cooldn't find any in stock. Now I will just purchase a x1950xt... sold out 8O







































Just kidding :mrgreen:
 

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Yeah, the cooler is a dissapointment. Maybe HIS will release an IceQ3 version. But given the short supply and climbing prices of the all the X1900XT's as well as the 7900GTO, it's good too see a new card that hopefully will be near $250, or at least well under $300.

I'm impressed with the IceQ3 cooler, which the cooler on the X1950XTX seems like an exact copy, but i don't think i would consider paying the extra price HIS will demand for that cooler on the X1950XT when ATi could have easily used that cooler and charged the price they would've any. At this late point in the game its all about that bargain basement price. since the next generation of cards are on there way, and unless HIS doesn't charge that much higher of a price i dont think the improved cooling will be worth the extra dough.
It was different story when the X1900XT and XTX were at the 400+ dollar range and the added cost of the HIS IceQ3 cooler was say $40...
now you tach on $40 to a $250 card and your looking at $300...at that different price point you could be looking at different cards that deliver more performance
 

pauldh

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Oh yeah, I agree with you. The iceQ cooler is worth maybe $30 to me. The only thing is, even if the HIS X1950XT is $50 more and $300, there really won't be a $300 card than can beat it. This thing should easily match a X1900XT 512MB or 7900GTX, so really unless a cheap ice Q X1900XTX or X1950XTX can be found it could still be the fastest $300 card. The issue I would still have is knowing I am paying $50 more for a heatsink/fan. It's all going to depend on price and of course whether HIS even releases an iceQ3.


Thinking ahead to the next few weeks, 8800GTS in good supply should push X1950XTX prices down, but I am not sure if the $200-300 cards will drop much as there is such a price gap up to the X1950XTX at $400. And really, if 8800GTX is $650+ and 8800GTS $500+, then ATI doesn't really have to drop pricing much to still sell X1950 cards. The 7950GX2 wouldn't make sense though. If NV suprises us and we see sub $450 8800GTS's, that's a different story as the X1950XTX has to be a good $100 less IMO. ( Granted...speculation. I am assuming that 8800GTS > X1950XTX in most games) My point is, there would still be a huge price gap to fill where X1950XTX in good supply could be a hot buy. Of course, romors are the initial hard launch batch of 8800's will sell out quickly anyway.
 

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Oh yeah, I agree with you. The iceQ cooler is worth maybe $30 to me. The only thing is, even if the HIS X1950XT is $50 more and $300, there really won't be a $300 card than can beat it. This thing should easily match a X1900XT 512MB or 7900GTX, so really unless a cheap ice Q X1900XTX or X1950XTX can be found it could still be the fastest $300 card. The issue I would still have is knowing I am paying $50 more for a heatsink/fan. It's all going to depend on price and of course whether HIS even releases an iceQ3.


Thinking ahead to the next few weeks, 8800GTS in good supply should push X1950XTX prices down, but I am not sure if the $200-300 cards will drop much as there is such a price gap up to the X1950XTX at $400. And really, if 8800GTX is $650+ and 8800GTS $500+, then ATI doesn't really have to drop pricing much to still sell X1950 cards. The 7950GX2 wouldn't make sense though. If NV suprises us and we see sub $450 8800GTS's, that's a different story as the X1950XTX has to be a good $100 less IMO. ( Granted...speculation. I am assuming that 8800GTS > X1950XTX in most games) My point is, there would still be a huge price gap to fill where X1950XTX in good supply could be a hot buy. Of course, romors are the initial hard launch batch of 8800's will sell out quickly anyway.

I wish NV would pull a quick one on us and get the GTS to a sub $500 price but with 8800's being the only DX10 card available(regardless of whether Vista is out) and after the preliminary benchmarks of the 8800GTX vs the 1950XTX have shown that the 8800GTX demolishes the x1950XTX i'm sure NV will feel justified for their price.

I'm not sure if i'm impressed with the GTX vs XTX benchmarks or not, i mean the performance increase is huge no doubt, but i guess the real story teller will be when the R600 comes out, its too bad ATi is late to the show, cause if i was in the market for a mid-top end computer, the gap between the release of the 8800s and the RD600s is more than long enough for people to justify buying a 8800 card
 

pauldh

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I'm impressed by the 8800GTX vs X1950XTX numbers, but you have to take those results for what they are worth. It's not like a real review. It could be cherry picked situations/games/settings. We shall know alot more within a week.
 

pauldh

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Weird. This ad for shop ATI keeps popping up(right side of Google searches) but when I click the link it just brings me to the buy a X1950XTX page.


x1950xtlp7.jpg
 

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A few US sites have the X1950XT 256MB in stock now. Should be the new sub $300 performance leader.

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=AT-1950XT


These may be the same people:
http://www.acortech.com/Sapphire_X1950XT_256MB_PCI-E_Dual/100186/partinfo-id-3220026.html
http://www.excaliberpc.com/Sapphire_X1950XT_256MB_PCI-E_Dual/100186/partinfo-id-571105.html
http://www.etech4sale.com/ATI_Sapphire_X1950XT_256MB_PCI-E/100186/partinfo-id-278583.html

That says its OEM =(

Same with that X1950Pro,

Which Newegg has the exact same card for $199 before shipping, but its Retail, and actually i guess its out of stock :( , for good reason...
 

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Oh and Pauldh, here is what i was talking about with the IceQ cooler

HIS IceQ3 X1950Pro for $265.99

I doubt many people would consider that card when you can get the samething for $200 when the IceQ only offers a little better cooling and marginally lower sound levels

a X1950XT for $280 or so is attractive, a X1950XT with a nice cooler on it for $340 is not
 

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I doubt many people would consider that card when you can get the samething for $200 when the IceQ only offers a little better cooling and marginally lower sound levels

a X1950XT for $280 or so is attractive, a X1950XT with a nice cooler on it for $340 is not

You were right. ICEQ3 version is 340. That's way too expensive. You can just about get the X1900XT 512 and tack on a 3rd party. Not as great as the cooling on the ICEQ3 probably but 512M sounds nicer.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814161048