THG kind of sucks these days
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jwl3
June 23, 2008 3:27:56 PM
Jake_Barnes
June 23, 2008 3:44:46 PM
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July 8, 2008 8:29:30 PM
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kwo
July 10, 2008 3:51:45 PM
Definitely agree. Not only is the layout poor, but the articles have gone down hill as well. Most disturbing though is the coverage. Used to be you could find performance comparisons for every cpu, mobo, and display card. Not anymore. That was the main reason I came to Tom's: to figure out how good a deal I was getting on ANY given component. Alas, not anymore.
We need more mods ... the site is good ... but it could be better.
We also need some funny news articles and to encourage more people to get into building their own PC's ... which is fun.
I volunteer to help moderate Jake !!!
Hell ... I will even write some articles ...
My rate as a corporate consultant is normally $285 per hour ... for you its free.
PM me.
Or rate me down ... ??
We also need some funny news articles and to encourage more people to get into building their own PC's ... which is fun.
I volunteer to help moderate Jake !!!
Hell ... I will even write some articles ...
My rate as a corporate consultant is normally $285 per hour ... for you its free.
PM me.
Or rate me down ... ??
^ Yes, I agree Reynod... 'cept I think that its taking forever for them to make an Australian THG...
I've tried volunteering as a mod...
I'm sure Reynod can do all the writing... power control domination!!! of the Australian section of course!
I'm happy to lend my time for a good cause (regardless, I don't get paid at my comic company)
Or lets rate Reynod up...
I've tried volunteering as a mod...
I'm sure Reynod can do all the writing... power control domination!!! of the Australian section of course!
I'm happy to lend my time for a good cause (regardless, I don't get paid at my comic company)
Or lets rate Reynod up...
Actually I would like to encourage the users here to write short articles ... benchies etc on anything ... then submit them to be edited ... then put up on the main page as short reviews.
There are lots of clever people here who would love to be involved.
That's some clever marketing Rob .... hint hint.
Plus it costs you nothing and the users who get their name up in lights would be stoked.
I am sure I could edit an article better than S & R ...
There are lots of clever people here who would love to be involved.
That's some clever marketing Rob .... hint hint.
Plus it costs you nothing and the users who get their name up in lights would be stoked.
I am sure I could edit an article better than S & R ...
I was thinking a sidebar section on the front page which lists recent user reviews.
Those good enough could easily be tidied up and help promote the site.
This site has a massive hit rate.
A lot of users do help new users in the forumz ... that much is clear.
The site needs much tighter moderation ... nothing sinister though.
There are clearly not enough mods.
A site like this needs at least 12 active mods.
I think turpit is away and I have only noticed Jake, Freddi and Big Mac much lately ... though I don't visit all of the areas ...
They need some help.
Those good enough could easily be tidied up and help promote the site.
This site has a massive hit rate.
A lot of users do help new users in the forumz ... that much is clear.
The site needs much tighter moderation ... nothing sinister though.
There are clearly not enough mods.
A site like this needs at least 12 active mods.
I think turpit is away and I have only noticed Jake, Freddi and Big Mac much lately ... though I don't visit all of the areas ...
They need some help.
Damn I really should take English classes...
Anyways Notice on the US version the forum homepage there is a thing above post count that says reviews?
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I did figure out how to write one tho... Nobody ever goes down there tho... some kinda shopping search engine.... simliar to a Newegg style review system... just login using your THG forum account... kinda pointless tho...
Anyways Notice on the US version the forum homepage there is a thing above post count that says reviews?

I did figure out how to write one tho... Nobody ever goes down there tho... some kinda shopping search engine.... simliar to a Newegg style review system... just login using your THG forum account... kinda pointless tho...
How's this? A special benchmark suite like what they have at PC User Australia. A series of test and etc. Once finished it can give scores of relative performance back to THG and help buyers decide how fast their configuration will run?
Could end up saving THG charts?
We can make a feature search engine... something like:
CPU series > Athlon X2
Clock Speed > 1.7Ghz
RAM > 4GB DDR 667
and etc. searching for a configuration and noting where it performs well and etc.
something like
encoding: 7:21
ripping: 6:20
Crysis: 1fps
making bagels: 1:27
Make it something like:
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So, as you can see, the chart has selected similar configs and showed you performance in SIS SANDRA...
Something like that... then a reference system... a Q6600 or so?
Upload scores to a MySQL database? Index for easy finding? compare your intedended build with others?
I think that would be very useful... I have found zero bechmarks on the Geforce 7150 against say the 780G...
Could end up saving THG charts?
We can make a feature search engine... something like:
CPU series > Athlon X2
Clock Speed > 1.7Ghz
RAM > 4GB DDR 667
and etc. searching for a configuration and noting where it performs well and etc.
something like
encoding: 7:21
ripping: 6:20
Crysis: 1fps
making bagels: 1:27
Make it something like:

So, as you can see, the chart has selected similar configs and showed you performance in SIS SANDRA...
Something like that... then a reference system... a Q6600 or so?
Upload scores to a MySQL database? Index for easy finding? compare your intedended build with others?
I think that would be very useful... I have found zero bechmarks on the Geforce 7150 against say the 780G...
hixbot
August 4, 2008 5:18:54 PM
They should benchmark computer to see how quickly they can load the bloated Tomshardware sites. My god this site is slow. And yes, the non technical articles are terrible. The reviews of hardware are still good. But the every other article is not objective and complete garbage.
This latest one about Mac pricing misconceptions is perhaps the worst article i've ever read. Either the author is a completel moron, or Tomshardware is bowing to increased pressure from Apple.
This latest one about Mac pricing misconceptions is perhaps the worst article i've ever read. Either the author is a completel moron, or Tomshardware is bowing to increased pressure from Apple.
hardwarekid9756
August 4, 2008 8:18:08 PM
I know that I've been getting overly frustrated with Tom's. There's no more spell-checking (I've counted up to 10 spelling and grammar errors), The articles aren't on stuff I care about anymore, and they're definately lacking in frequency, and some of the new writers are REALLY bad and opinionated. I don't know about you folks, but I've been reading anandtech.com more and more recently.
dobby
August 5, 2008 12:00:44 AM
hixbot
August 5, 2008 1:01:34 PM
The issue is, Toms articles used to set the standard for objective, technical, hardware reviews and info. i'm talking like about 11- 7 years ago, it was, hands down, the BEST place to go for current computer tech knowledge.
It gradually went down hill, and lately has taken a steep dive.
It still has the occasional good article, i find the in depth reviews still worthy.. but the rest has been filled with such opinionated fluff, and sensationalist titles, that its next to impossible to filter out.
It gradually went down hill, and lately has taken a steep dive.
It still has the occasional good article, i find the in depth reviews still worthy.. but the rest has been filled with such opinionated fluff, and sensationalist titles, that its next to impossible to filter out.
clownbaby
August 5, 2008 7:20:06 PM
Too bad this topic has been pigeonholed to the bottom of the page. Tom's has gone to **** in the last few months, and nobody at the site seems to care. They just keep pluggin away, churning out more and more lackluster crap. The performance charts are useless now. The once factual articles are reading more and more like editorials. Those useless morons who do whiny game reviews are depressing, and subjective. I could go on and on, but everything Tom's has to offer is getting worse and worse. The only good thing about tom's is the bulletin board. Too bad no one from the site reads it, or maybe they'd see what a **** their site has turned into.
WAKE UP TOM!!! YOUR SITE IS IN TROUBLE
WAKE UP TOM!!! YOUR SITE IS IN TROUBLE
grtgonzo
August 6, 2008 2:11:53 AM
THG was a near daily stop for me, but I am seeing less and less that I'm interested in. The articles are for obscure, unimportant pieces of hardware or consist of editorials which do not seem to be particularly well thought out. The Mac / PC comparison article is just the latest in a line of really questionable feature choices (the idea is fine, the execution lacking). Has there been a change in editorial staff? The site went through a sale, did it not. Something has changed and not for the better.
clownbaby
August 7, 2008 3:58:01 AM
Maybe i used the wrong words, but the fact that all they do is whine and complain is annoying as hell. And the "I'd like to see you do better" argument, is completely rediculous. A professional organization, should put forth a quality professional product. I can say with certainty, the game reviews are not quality or professional. I've never said a bad word about Tom's, until recently. All of their half assed efforts, and sloppy work has been snowballing into a seemingly unstoppable disaster. Soon, the quality audience that once viewed this site will be gone, and Tom's will be just another crappy review site for 14 year olds who don't know any better than to believe what they read. I don't think I'm the only one seeing a steep decline in the quality of work put forth here. I've respected Tom's for a long time, and am not quick to give up on it. But there may come a point where I won't feel the urge to check out what's new on Tom's. And when that comes, I'll gladly find my information elsewhere. I think many on this site will follow suite.
macgirlfriend
August 13, 2008 12:52:08 PM
macgirlfriend
August 15, 2008 1:36:18 PM
Whoa, what's up?
Snap Linkbubbles on the word "lunchbox" 1950s, thermos, American History, AMD Athlon whoa. That's some funky stuff.
I was joking through!
Hey, Missy why did you turn down the offer application for "Skit Show"?
I know that I turned it down because the pay was bad but why did you turn it down?
Snap Linkbubbles on the word "lunchbox" 1950s, thermos, American History, AMD Athlon whoa. That's some funky stuff.
I was joking through!
Hey, Missy why did you turn down the offer application for "Skit Show"?
I know that I turned it down because the pay was bad but why did you turn it down?
macgirlfriend
August 15, 2008 2:01:07 PM
macgirlfriend
August 15, 2008 2:05:45 PM
phreeky
November 23, 2008 6:09:41 PM
I guess this thread just died / got smothered by boredom and apathy? I don't see that anything got better at THG (or any "Tom's" sites) since the last post here.
I think the decline of this site is real and significant. I used to come here for the most comprehensive and objective reviews I'd ever seen. I counted on Tom's to keep doing what they did best, and for a long time they did. At some point, things started to change, and I stopped coming here so often. There seemed to be more and more covereage of exactly what every other tech site covered. Soon, it just seemed like someone decided the best strategy at THG was to forget about what made them different, and concentrate on doing whatever every other tech site does, all the while coasting on the reputation Tom's built for itself.
Now, I can rely on Tom's to write stories based on press releases, and regular reviews of whatever is generally deemed to be a something like a 'sexy' product at the moment (latest graphics cards, latest CPUs... and "Atom vs. Core 2"? Were that many people really having trouble deciding which performed better in a desktop?).
Reviews of mundane things like routers, printers, and monitors may not be exciting, but they were objective, they looked at aspects which actually mattered to performance, and they were damned useful. I used to come to Tom's precisely because their articles were useful. Now they seem to try to pump some kind of excitement out of everything they review, and it often comes across as inane talk about product setups that most readers/users aren't likely able to afford anyway. When THG did write about crazy setups, at least they were novel and interesting, instead of just gimmicky and repetitive. Also, as others pointed out, Tom's doesn't even seem to use spell check on every post. For a commercial organization that wants to be taken seriously, that's inexcusable. Are the writers being paid more than $0.50 per news posting, and $20 per review? If not, consider it. If so, Tom's isn't getting it's money's worth, and needs some management change.
I don't know enough about the history here to know what happened to the people who started THG, but I wish they were in charge again. I didn't know them at all personally, but I really liked what they created. To anyone who thought about it for a second, it was clear they wanted reviews on this site to be an oasis of substance in what is, for the most part, still a desert when it comes to objective, useful coverage.
The review industry is smothered in plainly biased advertising vehicles, and they can't all be cleaned up. That was OK - at least Tom's used to be a place where you could ignore them. Now Tom's oasis seems to have all but dried up itself.
I think the decline of this site is real and significant. I used to come here for the most comprehensive and objective reviews I'd ever seen. I counted on Tom's to keep doing what they did best, and for a long time they did. At some point, things started to change, and I stopped coming here so often. There seemed to be more and more covereage of exactly what every other tech site covered. Soon, it just seemed like someone decided the best strategy at THG was to forget about what made them different, and concentrate on doing whatever every other tech site does, all the while coasting on the reputation Tom's built for itself.
Now, I can rely on Tom's to write stories based on press releases, and regular reviews of whatever is generally deemed to be a something like a 'sexy' product at the moment (latest graphics cards, latest CPUs... and "Atom vs. Core 2"? Were that many people really having trouble deciding which performed better in a desktop?).
Reviews of mundane things like routers, printers, and monitors may not be exciting, but they were objective, they looked at aspects which actually mattered to performance, and they were damned useful. I used to come to Tom's precisely because their articles were useful. Now they seem to try to pump some kind of excitement out of everything they review, and it often comes across as inane talk about product setups that most readers/users aren't likely able to afford anyway. When THG did write about crazy setups, at least they were novel and interesting, instead of just gimmicky and repetitive. Also, as others pointed out, Tom's doesn't even seem to use spell check on every post. For a commercial organization that wants to be taken seriously, that's inexcusable. Are the writers being paid more than $0.50 per news posting, and $20 per review? If not, consider it. If so, Tom's isn't getting it's money's worth, and needs some management change.
I don't know enough about the history here to know what happened to the people who started THG, but I wish they were in charge again. I didn't know them at all personally, but I really liked what they created. To anyone who thought about it for a second, it was clear they wanted reviews on this site to be an oasis of substance in what is, for the most part, still a desert when it comes to objective, useful coverage.
The review industry is smothered in plainly biased advertising vehicles, and they can't all be cleaned up. That was OK - at least Tom's used to be a place where you could ignore them. Now Tom's oasis seems to have all but dried up itself.
lifematrix
November 26, 2008 7:43:30 AM
I agree that both the site format and the general quality of content has changed... and not for the better. I've been away from Tom's Hardware for several years now and the main reason is because I haven't built my own system in several years.
On a side note: The reason I have not built another system in several years is because I got fed up dealing with the trashy quality of so-called "budget" PC components as well as dealing with components which, in THEORY, should be compatible... but aren't. (After trying several GeForce MX440 cards I exclaimed: Not buying nVidia ever again! What a scam!) After wasting considerable time and money, I found the system to be obsolete and much more expensive by the time the right parts were found and the kinks worked out. Having trusted the reviews on THG was part of the problem...
In any case, I decided my next computer would be a system purchase. For several reasons I decided on a laptop. (But then I made the colossal mistake of bidding on eBay! Is it me, or is the world full of jerks and scam artists?)
On a side note: The reason I have not built another system in several years is because I got fed up dealing with the trashy quality of so-called "budget" PC components as well as dealing with components which, in THEORY, should be compatible... but aren't. (After trying several GeForce MX440 cards I exclaimed: Not buying nVidia ever again! What a scam!) After wasting considerable time and money, I found the system to be obsolete and much more expensive by the time the right parts were found and the kinks worked out. Having trusted the reviews on THG was part of the problem...
In any case, I decided my next computer would be a system purchase. For several reasons I decided on a laptop. (But then I made the colossal mistake of bidding on eBay! Is it me, or is the world full of jerks and scam artists?)
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