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November 7, 2006 3:23:58 AM

not sure how to get decent numbers on stock cooling for now.

I dont know what to set the fsb, voltages and ram timings for either.
can someone help me?

2gb kingston pc4300
core 2 duo e6300 allendale

motherboard latest bios asus p5b vm capable 500fsb. running stock speeds now...

I have cpuz is there any additional info you need to know before someone can help me overclock??? :( 
November 7, 2006 5:48:46 PM

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I have cpuz is there any additional info you need to know before someone can help me overclock???


Not too surprising you haven't received any replies. I think the people around expect that you will do a little work yourself first (rightly so).

Start here, and then read the forumz and google around. You'll likely get more response.
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/Core2Duo-Overcl...

This is also interesting and useful, although your mobo is different
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/GUIDE-3GHz-Core...

I'm a total noob when it comes to OCing, but there is a lot of information out there, and I'm gaining confidence and looking forward to building my rig soon.
November 7, 2006 5:56:38 PM

I got time to spare. What do you need to know?
Related resources
November 7, 2006 6:37:41 PM

thanks both of you for you offer of help. I will try your links and see what i can come up with..

I guess i just dont understand the voltages and ram timings, i get all confused.

I just changed the fsb a tiny bit and it just fails immediatley. I go from 266 to 280 and it just crashes.... So I guess I have to mess with voltages timings etc...

When i get home tonite I will try one of the suggestions on one of the links to see if i get any results. If I still need some help I will reply again.

I just have stock cooling right now with 3 internal fans running. Xion case.
If you have any other suggestions go ahead and post them. I have googled around with not much luck I guess because everyone has different ram qualities. I hope I can get real close to 3ghz at least.

Thanks again everyone. I will let you know how far I get before any frustration sets in. :D 
November 7, 2006 9:10:24 PM

bump vcore up one or two levels, set your ram timing to 2:1. try bumping the ram voltage mab one or two notches
November 7, 2006 10:21:54 PM

ahh thats the confusing thing the 2:1 i dunno what that means lol.. guess i gotta do more reading. i see numbers like 3 3 3 3, 4,4,4,4 5,5,5, etc...
I dont know how to set those correctly. I know how to get to it in the bios but not sure what to set it at.

bump my cpu core voltage you mean? I get home in an hour but will try some stuff.

If you need my current cpuz specs as stock i can post it if it helps any..
I dont have dual channel ram. just the kingston value ram i believe.

But thank you for your input as well.
November 8, 2006 3:35:19 AM

i can only get 270 fsb.

i put the ram at 4-4-4-12
dram voltage at 1.9
set vcore at 1.2750

I dont know what i am doing wrong.. am i missing something?
do i leave my dram on auto?, i have pc 4300. Or do i change it to say
pc 667?

pcie express frequency is at 100mhz.

If i go to 275 fsb it crashes. what am i doing wrong? 8O
November 8, 2006 9:08:12 AM

well your ram is not ideal for overclocking really. You might want to change the fsb:ram ratio or if you could get 800mhz ram. If the system fails when you up the fsb try uping the latency timings a bit or try increasing the ram voltages.
November 8, 2006 3:40:09 PM

whats a good ram voltage to try out? and what do you recommend for the ram timings.

I will have to try again on my lunch break at home or tonite after work.

do I leave dram on auto?? it lets me pick pc4300, pc 667 and pc 800 etc..
I just left it on auto. But i can change the timings.

still frustrated. I would really like to get close to 3.0 ghz with stock. I dont have enough funds to buy new ram at the moment.

e6300 allendale
ati 1900 xtx
2gb pc4300 kingston ram
asus pb5-vm motherboard. latest bios.
November 8, 2006 4:13:38 PM

You will run into the limits of that motherboard far sooner than you will with anything else.
November 9, 2006 3:16:29 AM

I dont know what else to do to get this overclocking to work.
kinda frustrated.

I messed with voltages and timings and it just wont take a higher fsb.
anything over 270 fsb it shuts off.

I must be missing something. Does my ram suck that bad? or is it the board? i got my ram at 4,4,4,12 on timing right now.

1.9v on ram
vcore 1.2750

I feel like its helpless not sure what i am doing wrong
November 9, 2006 5:05:16 PM

Well I think neither your motherboard nor your ram is ideal for overclocking really :(  Cant think of anything else you could change though
November 9, 2006 5:28:12 PM

Change to 667 RAM, that might be a large factor in speeding up your computer.
November 9, 2006 5:30:27 PM

if your gonna change you might as well get 800mhz.
November 9, 2006 6:05:02 PM

What's the exact model on the ram? PC4300 is 533mhz. 1:1 ratio to the FSB will match it, giving you a 266FSB. Start off with 533mhz in the BIOS. Set the timings to 5-5-5-15 for now.

Also set your vcore to 1.325 (default). Setting your FSB to 275 will make the ram 550mhz which is not much. Try these settings first.

3.0 ghz might be tough to get on this motherboard.
November 9, 2006 7:41:30 PM

thanks for your reply, I will get on cpuz when i get home at lunch and give you the model..

I know they are kingston brand so far but I can get more info in a bit.

yeah when i run just stock my fsb is at 266 automatically. I hope i can still overclock with pc4300 ram. I got 2gb's and tend to play EQ2.

Will get back to you soon thanks again. :D 
November 9, 2006 8:28:54 PM

kingston memory slot 1 and slot 2
max bandwith pc2- 4300 266mhz

4,4,4,12 1:1 270.8 mhz is whats curretntly reporting on cpuz
November 9, 2006 8:31:12 PM

so try up the FSB a bit, like to around 275 for example. What do you get?
November 9, 2006 8:42:12 PM

i tried 275 fsb with your suggestions and it just crashes. what do u mean by set bios to 533mhz??

where is that setting.?
sorry kinda new to this. I do have the latest bios flash too by the way.
November 9, 2006 10:00:24 PM

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i tried 275 fsb with your suggestions and it just crashes. what do u mean by set bios to 533mhz??

where is that setting.?
sorry kinda new to this. I do have the latest bios flash too by the way.


Are there settings for the RAM ie 533, 667, 800, auto? If so, set it to 533mhz. If you have "ratios" then set it to 1:1.

Set your vcore too, if available, see what the BIOS shows for the Vcore (in the health/temp menu).
November 9, 2006 10:03:43 PM

ahh ok it was on auto... i will try the 533 first. will get back to you after work in a couple hours....

Yeah I have all those choices.. I will give it a shot.
November 10, 2006 3:30:24 AM

well i tried your suggestion and it still gives me the same result of crashing. i set it to 533 for my ram. it seems like 270 fsb is the best i can do lol.

I even tried uping the voltages as well and i get no luck. Anything else I should try? It just takes longer to boot up now when its set at 533 instead of auto for some reason. set at 5,5,5,15

I guess my board or ram sucks???? or both?
November 10, 2006 4:00:38 PM

It's the board. The BIOS is not setup for overclocking and neither was the board's hardware.
November 10, 2006 9:12:49 PM

That just about kills that bit of hope doesn't it?
November 11, 2006 6:47:36 PM

Not unless the OP can pull something out of his arse. I DL'd the manual and just didn't see too many options for tweaking. On top of that you tell from the pictures of the board that the VRM is not meant for OCg.

wusy had commented on this board in an earlier post noting that it was a micro atx board meant for HTPCs. Those are not the stellar qualities one looks for when considering overclocking. On a lighter note, the OP was able to do a small amount of overclocking. I guess it's better than a kick to the nutz (no offense to the OP intended :D  ).
November 12, 2006 3:17:54 AM

I guess the board sucks at overclocking, which I still dont understand why it gives an option upgrade to 500mhz fsb, memory voltages, v core voltages, ram timings etc...

I would think with those options it should be able to overclock, what a waste of features if one cannot use them. what are they for then?? Just to make it look good?

why bother putting those features in then? I dont get it.

too bad i wasted my $$ on it. Maybe I can ebay it who knows....

oh well..... :cry: 
November 13, 2006 4:02:47 PM

Most likely because parts of the BIOS are written in a generic sense to be used with other boards. There also needs to be support for CPUs with higher bus speeds like the EE CPUs.

Don't knock your purchase too much. If the board works trouble free and has all the features you need, then you didn't waste your money. The board just doesn't happen to be an overclocker. If that's what you're looking for, then yes I would say get rid of it and get one that is.
November 13, 2006 5:05:44 PM

are you able to suggest a board regular atx that is in the 130-150 $$ range that would be a good overclocker?

I dont have alot to spend, that would be my limit. even if its a ecs board or pc chips...Of course I would like to have a higher quality board but just dont know what the cheapest overclocker is with pci express. I got a radeon x1900xtx.
November 13, 2006 5:47:17 PM

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are you able to suggest a board regular atx that is in the 130-150 $$ range that would be a good overclocker?

I dont have alot to spend, that would be my limit. even if its a ecs board or pc chips...Of course I would like to have a higher quality board but just dont know what the cheapest overclocker is with pci express. I got a radeon x1900xtx.


Go with the new chipset:

I have the 680i myself, but for cheaper you can go for a 650i Ultra or 650 SLI if you can dish a few bucks more:

see:

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4215&s=4

These are great overclockers.
November 13, 2006 6:59:50 PM

There's a lot of good overclocking boards in that price range, if you're in the U.S. The Abit AB9 Pro, Gigabyte GA-965G-DS3, MSI's P965 Platinum, etc... Read the recent 965 Motherboard review on THG. You can rest assured that this review was done by someone who knows what they're talking about.

@pat767, I'm not sure mandalay is going to find a nForce 680i for about $130-150. I suspect mandalay might not be in the U.S., which may make even the boards I suggested above out of his price range but I wouldn't settle for anything less (except for possibly the Gigabyte GA-965G-S3) than those mentioned if you plan on overclocking.
November 13, 2006 7:16:29 PM

Oh, I am in california... I will check out those links. I just really want to overclock this chip. Main reason I bought it as well.

Thanks for the info. :) 
October 31, 2007 5:18:01 AM

So ok folks ..i haven't seen anyone post on this in awhile, but I didn't bust my arse to get my E6300 on the P5b-vm mobo to 2.2Ghz with only 675Mhz RAM. ....THE BAD WAY .. .buhahahaha.. .jk . So basically I tried everything, upping the core voltage to 1.35V which is the max printed on the CPU's BOX, upping the RAM voltage ony .1V could be spared ...changing the FSB ... basically with the MOBO you can't get crap.. the ony way to gain is to up the pcie bus ..which i heard is BAD. so i set my RAM to 1:1 (533Mhz) in the bios and then cranked the FSB up to 310mhz and pcei bus to 120v(is it v?) ...seems to run ok, faster, but i need to run a bunch of test. I hear that this can tear up the other components of your computer if they are not compatible with the Mhz increments (done by upping bus) ..i got to look into it further. 120 i think is fairly safe ..a little on the high side,*wishes he could crank that **** to 1,000*



...but it really pisses me off that i see this CPU being capable of 3.4Ghz and ...stuff. oh ya my specs ...
intel E6300
P5b-vm Mobo ...(lame)
4X512Mb Corsair xms2 ddr2 675 (mobo say 667 only..but works fine)
stock cooler
on board graphics :(  ..sorry guys ...just need the comp for school ...NOT GAMES ...
huge monitor ...size of alaska
white case
white mouse
black keyboard
2.1 surround sound 19.95 at target
a wood desk
dvd and cd burner
!