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Intel Pentium D 945 Good or bad?

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November 8, 2006 12:03:30 AM

Im wonder about the D 945 as its not on THG CPU charts i cant compare it to anything. its going for only 165$ bucks right now and im very interested in getting it. I understand its no C2D but if i can perform near the C2D why spend 300+ on a E6600 When an older P4 D for 165 can score somewhat near it.

here are the specs
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
November 8, 2006 2:05:57 AM

a Pentium D 945 is, for all intents and purposes, a Pentium D 950.
same 4*200 fsb
same 3.4ghz core speed
same 2*2mb cache
same 2 space-heater (i mean netburst) cores
same emt64
same scores on any (non-virtualizing) benchmark

the only difference is that the 945 has no VT. if you don't know what that is, don't bother, you don't need it. it's only useful if you intend to run more than 1 OS at once (eg running windows inside linux using Xen, or vice-versa using vmware).

and for 27% less than the 950, the 945 is the way to go for any non-nerd (at least, when comparing these 2).

But with an E6400 a tiny bit cheaper than a 950 (or an E6300 a bit more expensive than a 945), i'd go the Core (obviously dependant on your current/potential motherboard chipset)

ps, my price comparisons: 945=$225, E6300=$245, E6400=$295, 950=$305, $aussie, ex-gst
November 8, 2006 4:04:54 AM

i bought pentium D 945 at newegg.com when it was on sale for 150.
my mobo was dfi infinity 975
then i had to buy a new psu 535wtt
the mobo takes at least 300wtt, this bloody irresponsible engineered cpu takes 130wtt, i use intel stock cooler and got it idle at 44c, load 55c and up

200buxs for e6300,
300buxs for e6400,
they consumed about 65-95watts

it's a tough decision for you, but for me i'll wait till e6300 or 6400 drops to
150bucs :) 
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November 8, 2006 4:13:50 AM

also the push pin that locks the heat spreader
are god damn stupidest thing intel ever come up with, i took a plyer and pull these thing out, using old fasting nuts and bolt hold down the heat spreader nicely and cpu surface has better contact with the heat spreader.

it musta take intel thousands of engineer to come up with cheap hard plastic push pins to work in cramp motherboard space, depend on your luck some are pressure down and some aren't
November 8, 2006 4:34:34 AM

Well i dont have to worry about the CPU fan as i have an ARTIC COOLER 7, as for watts i got a 500W PSU so power consumion isnt an issue. I'm also wondering about it's Overclocking Potential. Snices its alrdy 3.4Ghz how high can it go With an intel 975XBX mobo and the CPU fan mentioned above
November 8, 2006 10:23:12 PM

the highest i have clock is at 3.8ghz
but i don't have good memory modules just 533mhz pc4300

if this investment you plan to hold long then go with 6300, everything seems better than all the pentium D can offer
November 8, 2006 10:50:16 PM

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Well i dont have to worry about the CPU fan as i have an ARTIC COOLER 7, as for watts i got a 500W PSU so power consumion isnt an issue. I'm also wondering about it's Overclocking Potential. Snices its alrdy 3.4Ghz how high can it go With an intel 975XBX mobo and the CPU fan mentioned above


Both the D915 and D945 from my old setup and what i read they both are good clockers, I had a d915 on water up 4.3ghz and i am pretty sure i good aftermarket HSF could worked just fine

2 things from what i see alot of people with the intel xbx mobo are doing the mods to them to get them to clock highand stable. also what memory do you have?.

With that motherboard why not go with the e6300? if you have to oc the D cpu's to keep up ith a stock conroe why not just get a conroe, then you can oc if you want? Id either go with the D915 ( if mostly for gaming) or the e6300 (for everything else including gaming)
My motto spend as much as you can on a Video card then a minmal investment in "todays" cpu will do. What cpu do you have now?
November 9, 2006 12:27:09 AM

The reason i want this an not an E6300 is because i is also dual core, has 4MB of cache and clocks at 3.4 so i dont have to dabble in OCing it much more. PLus its only 165$ whereas the lowest C2D is 190$.

My current ram is PC4800(533mhz ram Oced to 600mhz, Factory OCed by PNY) and a P4 630 processer which only supports 533mhz ram hence why i had to buy 533mhz(i decided to spend 30$ extra and go for the OCed ram so i have some headroom for OCing)
November 9, 2006 12:48:32 AM

Wow.

Okay. For $165 you get the PD 945, or for $35 more, the E6300.

The E6300 will destroy the 945. The $35 dollar savings is not worth it. Also, if you are running DDR, and not DDR2, there is no way you can achieve the same level as C2D. None.

If you really want to spend $165 for the 945, I think you'll regret it, badly.

I would get an AMD X2 before the 945. But the E6300 is the better Intel option.
November 9, 2006 3:08:26 AM

Well i have a C2D mobo so no way an i getting an AMD X2 but the E6300(which isnt in THG CPU charts, So i will compare it to E6400)run close to the 945(i will use the 950 as a close reference in THG CPU charts as it doesnt also list the 945 D)

As you can see the difference between the 945 for 160$ and the E6400 is 300marks in 3dmark Graphics. In the CPU verison it is a difference of 153 marks.
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1...


The call of duty time demo the difference is between only one processer the FX-62. which is 12 FPS
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1...

IN PCmark the difference between the two is only 300, and they are side by side in that test.
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1...

So as you can see why spend money on a low clocked processer, only 2mb of L2 and costs more then the 945 D, when the 945 Is so close in all those marks is clocked at 3.4Ghz and has 4mb cahce.
November 9, 2006 3:33:13 AM

You buy CPU for performance, not for clock speed and cache size. Why would you get an inefficient, power hungry and much hotter running processor?

If you overclock, then Core 2 Duo will be even better than Pentium D.
November 9, 2006 3:36:10 AM

Well, we can say we didn't give you our opinions.

I still think that getting the PD 945 over the E6300/6400 is not a wise move.

Gaming is limited by GPU at times, and when the CPU is used, you'll notice alot of difference between the Pentium D and C2D. Not to mention the cooling needed on a PD CPU.

Seems like you're just not going to listen to almost everyone who suggests getting the Core 2 Duo over the Pentium D. But as long as you're happy with your purchase, then that's all that matters.

Good luck with your build.

Oh, and Newegg has the E6300 for $183.50 w/ free shipping. That's $18 bucks more than the $165 PD 945.
November 9, 2006 3:39:59 AM

OK ill go for the E6400. thanks for the replies and help
November 9, 2006 11:28:43 AM

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OK ill go for the E6400. thanks for the replies and help

Nice decision; between 'good' and 'bad', I'd say the 945 is the 'ugly'.
November 9, 2006 12:24:11 PM

There are many Pentium D and motherboard combos you can find these days. Look further and you should stumble into a great bargain. Try EBay as well. The 945 is a good cpu and same with the rest of the Pentium Ds the price are going down.
November 9, 2006 5:01:33 PM

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OK ill go for the E6400. thanks for the replies and help

Nice choice
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