Yet even more Christian love and understanding...

After they've paid up, that is.

It's a media event Rob, choreographed down to the nats ass... They announce they're coming to the funeral under freedom of speech... There's more camera crews & cops there than you can shake a stick at... Anything you'd would be all over the world in a mere heartbeat..... You can't do anything at the time... The KKK gets the same treatment under freedom of speech....

@Jef

I'm glad the guy hit them good in the pocketbook!!!!

If it was my lad and those fcukers were at his funeral, I'd happily do time. I'd want the world to see what happens when you intrude on someone's grief, dishonour the memory of someone who gave his life on a foreign battlefield. I wouldn't have thought a judge would rule too harshly if you give a couple of 'em a kicking, Heck, even the cops would be slow to break it up. I'd go to prison knowing I'd done the right thing, even if that means not doing the right thing.

That's what it is. I have no qualms with that. I wouldn't whinge about doing the time. I'd fully expect it. I'd go down, however, knowing that I was the better person and that a few of them wouldn't be able to do their sick protesting for quite some time.

At some point one of these church members will lose a loved one. Let's send Wingy to the funeral...

That's a very limited compliment.

My sentiments exactly, AV and I had a discussion on this exact point the otherday

It's just plain and simple bad form to behave in the manner they do. They deserve a kicking and I, like Rob, would willingly do it.

Let's just schedule a lesbian love fest on their church lawn!

Coors???? Here let me help you with that cooler!!!!!

Coors has no alcohol, thus it is not flamable.

*sell sell*

Got tracking #s?

I'm with RobD and Tom_Smart on this. Fcuk the PC sh!t and start knocking some heads. Somethings are just wrong. Stupid people like this used to be eliminated from the gene pool for pulling crap like this.

There is no respect in this world anymore and it appears you can fcuk anyone over these days as long as your polite about it.

I've never served in the armed services, and neither have you. I would refrain from commenting on something you know nothing about.

Then let's talk about all those guys who signed up right after 9/11 to go fight for something worth fighting for only to end up getting killed in Iraq. Not everybody over there signed on for it but they signed on knowing the risks involved. When you're a soldier you don't have a choice. You go where you're told to go because that's your job. Tripe indeed. A lot of those guys would rather be someplace else but it isn't their choice and it's really easy for people like you and me to sit here all nice and safe and talk about honor and duty or call them stupid. I don't support the war in Iraq. Never did, but I sure as hell wouldn't spit in the face of any soldier that comes back from that place alive like you just did.

@strangestranger
You wouldn't make a pimple on a Veterans ass..... Nuff said!!!!!!

@Anoobis
You are an honorable Man I must say!!!!

Plenty of men and women signed after 9/11 because they wanted to do something to help. You can call it whatever you want, revenge, justice, duty, freedom....I don't care. They didn't sign on to go fight in Iraq but they signed on knowing the risks involved. One of those risks took them to Iraq. Perhaps we should just turn the other cheek or shake our heads the next time some cooky group of criminals smashes a plane into a building, or gases a subway, or blows up an embassy, or hijacks a plane because it's just our fault anyway. Perhaps we should just bend over all the time whenever another country doesn't agree with what we do instead of standing our ground.

The people in that church group have a choice not to do what they're doing. Once signed up the average soldier does not.

You're right. There is no point in arguing this further. You cannot argue with someone who thinks they have all the answers.

no i will never understand your Duty. Duty to what, for what, i do not think there are answers to those questions or at least reasonable ones.

the idea of a soldier taking a superior tone as if they have more insight into things than others is, well, astounding.

also, i am a fan of justice but only true justice where those responsible get punished not just those in the way.

soldiers do have a choice, they can say no. hell they may be locked up buty if all soldiers actually thought for a second and organised their response(which shouldn't be difficult in a modern military) then what would any do to stop them? the answer is they couldn't so stop with that no choice argument. it ain't true.

SS, that comment is absolutely disgraceful.

i stand by my comments, for me to fight and especially to kill i would need a damn good reason, i would also need to see and have a reason to kill my enemy, you talk about freedoms and yet what war recently has been about our freedom's or indeed the actual freedoms of others.

christ next you will talk about the second world war which would just be silly.

see, my conscience would not allow me to kill someone for no reason just because they are one of "them". today's soldiers are part of a military which bombs people and shoots them from long range. they do not just atack enemies or other fighters, it is usually innocents IMO. I cannot back a soldier who is not fighting for anything just and that means most of the recent military actions. I am not a sentimental person but the flippant disregard for life shown by today's govermnet is scary.

back to the soldier's funeral discussed at the start, what are we so objectiing to, that it is anyone's funeral, the funeral of a soldier or that individuals funeral. I get the feeling it means more to some due to it being a soldiers funeral but ito me, i wonder if i had known hom in real life would i care, would i have liked his actions in thewar or his personality. Probably not. That goes for every other soldier, there is a good chance i would not like them and would not want the "freedoms" they "grant" me.

no you may call my statement whatever you want but i wil not change mymind on this as i do not believe you people are thinking straight.

In your mind, i should personally thank the russians for their part in WWII for making sure i ain't speaking german right now but considering the sort's of things every russian soldier did i aint going to do that as the evil they carried out can never be forgiven or forgotten. the same goes for any army.

it ain't just regarding u.s forces my views come from, it is all goverments and their militaries.

as an American airman(SSgt USAF ANG), i signed up on 06/19/01 before all the crap with 9/11 happened, i was happy to sign up then and am happy i did now. I signed up for duty to my country as I felt it was the right thing to do. Now after 9/11 happened, I was more than happy to go defend my country from Al-qiada, Taliban, etc. etc. Nothing changed, now how we approached the conflicts might have been bad but I am in full support of them. Yes the media had a very important role in skewing certain aspects of those events, and yes both sides were at fault(dems/reps) but all were supportive before... As for being stupid or ignorant or dumb for signing up for someone elses cause, well then maybe I am. Maybe I am stupid for believing that service to your country and countrymen is an extremely high credit to yourself, Maybe I am ignorant for thinking that helping other countries during times of conflict is a good thing, and maybe I am dumb for believing service of country is of higher cause than service of self.

I am not saying by far that every soldier, marine, seamen, or airmen is a hero and I am not saying that we deserve more respect than any other human. But I will say to fight for what you believe in is far more respectable than to bitch about what has already happened.

Trust me it sucks being there at any moment ready to serve, from that alone I have lost many jobs, my wife, and some of my life that I will never get back. But would I trade it for anything knowing I went into this doing what I thought was right?

plain and simple, no. not at all.

and I wish you wouldnt look down on me for being stupid enough to serve my country.

-face-

Agreed.. Getting shot at for a living makes those who bitch about the office being a bit cold look as silly as they are.

strangestranger, I got nothing against you man, I just don't agree with your comments on this post. My initial comments apply regardless of whether or not the funeral was for a soldier or for an everyday person. If those fcukers showed up at my grandfather's or grandmother's funerals they'd be eating my fist. It's just plain disrespectful. It would be no different than if they were to just walk up and piss on the coffin.

@audiovoodoo, considering recruiting offices were full on 9/12 I think there's a few people who signed up before the media hype had a chance to kick in.

RCpilot, phukface and RobD, thank you.