So here I sit, just to left of center middle of nowhere, with my faithful old craptop. It was a good bargain (relatively) when I bought it...a 17 in screen HP, with an AMD desktop CPU (939 A64 3200) and most of the goodies. The old girl served me well through many a trip, with the exceptions that it runs hot (no big deal) sucks power (2 hours of light use till lights out) and most annoyingly, after standing in lines or terminals for hours, it gets heavy.
Well, after waiting patiently, Dell finally reverted back to offering Win XP (Death before Vista--vive la' revolution) for its laptops. Prices for both the unit (Inspirion 1520) and component upgrades have dropped nicely plus the $425 off(up to $500 off this past weekend) coupon sealed the old HPs fate. Well, here I sit in my hotel room, 9 days after I ordered it, looking at the new Dell. MutherFukcers sent me a 17 inch screen model....I ordered the 15.4in screen model specfically for its reduced weight and size. The invoice clearly states "15.4 inch", yet here the oversizd beast sits. Ive got 4500 miles to go over the next 3 weeks (not including local 'travel') across 4 locations with little chance of easily sorting this out. DIE DELL DIE!!!!!!!!

That sucks...getting more than you paid for.
Now you have something to do next time you're in a two hour line. Call Dell!
LOL, I knew that was coming...just didnt expect it on the first reply. Yeah, I got something for free, but I didnt want it and its not a 'good deal' freebie. I may have to go far, far away soon, and heavier/bigger is most definately not better where I may be going. [/sigh] Damn you Dell!!!!

So, Opinions?
Keep the brick, or engage in an act futility by attempting to rectify this through Dells customer (lack of) service?
I think the gist of WW's was 'STFU and enjoy the freebie'....I think

Invest in a set of weights and build up some arm strength.
Also, you could go for one of those nifty backpacks that are designed for a notebook... mine takes my 17" HP quite nicely - so nicely, in fact, that I once took the damn thing up a mountain and only discovered I'd brought my notebook along when I opened the bag to get my lunch.
Never pack for a hike while hungover.
I feel for you, but use the damm thing.... What the hell is a couple of pounds to a guy that's in the fittest shape of his life?????
Are you seriously complaining? You get more than you asked for at a free price yet you complain.
Next time you get shorted, you'll probably complain too. Or would you be happy she forgot to give you the 97 cents because it would be too heavy?
Seriously, it's what, an extra pound? Harden the fcuk up.
Check the resolution on the 17 and see if you are really getting a better machine (sometimes bigger is NOT better). You know this of course, but I am just shouting it to the fields.
As for backpacks? I found the Victorinox noe works VERY nicely. has enough room for a day's clothes, toiletry bag, computer, snacks and a few odds and ends. The elastic at the top of the wide shoulder straps make it much more comfy.
The only problem these days is that with the travel paranoia, you can't bring jack on the planes with you anymore. That frigging 1oz rule is full of crap.
But, anyway, given that you will be leaving soon, just keep the damn thing. How muchmore does it weigh anyway? 1 lb?
Pussy.
I'll take that laptop off your hands since you don't want it.
Tom will already have had it...
Up to his old tomfoolery again???[/Terrible, just terrible]
Mugz is offering some good advice. Carry the fcuker in your w@nking hand and you'll be fine. The idea of a back pack is also good, get one that obviously looks like you have a laptop inside and save a mugger from robbing worthless sh!t.
| Ninjahedge wrote : (sometimes bigger is NOT better) |
That's what she said. Right before she left you, eh? Sucker.
Whoa....Feel the love
| RCPilot wrote : I feel for you, but use the damm thing.... What the hell is a couple of pounds to a guy that's in the fittest shape of his life????? |
Sadly, I am past those days. I am officially over the hill, and my value now comes from "accumulated experiance" rather than physical fitness. Not that Im out of shape, but the standards I must meet are now (blessedly) much more 'relaxed' than the under 40 crowds. And, as an added genetic bonus, courtesy of my physique, (short/stocky) I am naturally resistant to the actual physical strains I normally endure, so Ive never had to work particularly hard to condition myself for them...in fact, they are self-conditioning...the more you endure, the easier it gets.
| mugz wrote : Invest in a set of weights and build up some arm strength.
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| Tom_Smart wrote : Mugz is offering some good advice. Carry the fcuker in your w@nking hand and you'll be fine. The idea of a back pack is also good, get one that obviously looks like you have a laptop inside and save a mugger from robbing worthless sh!t. |
That is good advice, however, while my back is normally free in CONUS, it will have a prior engagement with a very heavy sea bag if I go on my far far away trip.
The extra space/wieght is also a detriment in travel. Certain modes of travel I will have to employ are subject to stringent weight limits. Additionally, the 'accomodations' where I will likely be lodged are typically very space limited.
| Riser wrote : Are you seriously complaining? You get more than you asked for at a free price yet you complain.
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Thank you peanut gallery resident
All things are relative, arent they? Losing 97 cents worth of pennies would be far less upsetting than losing 3 quarters, 2 dimes and 2 pennies. Why dont you weigh those and get back to me with the results. Feel free to take your time
I havent decided for sure, but I am leaning towards keeping it. The bigger screen will be nicer when I am playing with 3Dsmax. But I know if I keep it, I will regret it every time I travel. The thing is, Im not going to get the features/components for the same price elsewhere.
The other side to this is "Dell, WTFO???" Ummm, customer service???

| turpit wrote : Losing 97 cents worth of pennies would be far less upsetting than losing 3 quarters, 2 dimes and 2 pennies. |
What about a fifty-cent piece, one quarter, one dime, two nickles and 2 pennies?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=m8nU-q5YPRQ
| exit2dos wrote : What about a fifty-cent piece, one quarter, one dime, two nickles and 2 pennies?
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Not as bad as a Susan B Anthony with a little nick out of the edge

Dell will probably send you a 19" version to reward you for your honesty. Me, I shoot you.
Why don't we get her here in the States?
(I do love redheads!)
jef is into clown pr0n
I'm not into clown porn, but I'd do her.
Hell, I would do a female clown once, just to see what it was like.
Imagine your staff after a hummer!
DAM YOU DELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So, I decide to play around a little with the dell...trying it on to see if I like it enough to overcome the bloat. As with my other laptop, I decide to wipe the drive and reinstall a clean copy of the OS without the 50 tons of nonsensical bloatware.
THERE IS NO FRIGGIN OS DISK. Dell provides the OS as an image, complete with imbedded crapware, on the HDD. You cant even wipe the disk or you lose the only copy of the OS. DAM YOU DELL!!!!!!!!

Dell must have changed.... I've loaded several Dell's clean with the Repair disc (I believe that's what it's called).... It put a new copy of XP on it without the bloat ware..... Of course you most likely have Vista & I haven't messed with a Dell Vista..... I have messed with a HP Vista & it worked the same as before as for a clean install....
Most manufacturers supply the things with a recovery partition. Most also supply a utility to burn it to a bootable dvd so you're not completely fcuked id the HDD dies.
Just use a 'liberated' copy of windows...As Tom said they have a partition rather than a recovery disk now.
Though prefer to use linux myself, much better than microcrap.
Good morning Chunt Funter.
Linux? I never figured you for a bearded hippie.
Tom.
Well it's either go with that sad state of an OS that they call windowz or you can actually have an OS that is linux.
I'm pretty sure that in 5 years time MS will be a shell of what it used to be.
Good morning Chunt Funter.
Shell? Is that some kind of techie joke?
Tom.
You know all about shell's so it should be obvious to even an old fart like you.
Chunty.
Good afternoon Chunt Funter.
I do indeed know the value of a shell suit.[/blue Lacoste boy]
Tom.
And in some strange way I do actually own some Lacoste stuff...And indeed two items are blue...
How did you know you dirty stalker?
Good afternoon Chunt Funter.
I was joking about the pleb blue Lacoste. I think you can now guess how I knew you'd have one.
Hope this helps.
Tom.
Would you like me to take a picture of myself in them so you can fufill you fantasy of having me in your bed...
Good afternoon Chunt Funter.
That's your fantasy, my nightmare.
Hope this helps.
Tom.
You're a scouse, surely that is nightmare enough?
Chunty.
Good afternoon Chunt Funter.
Yes I'm a Scouser. Now bow down and marvel at my magnificence.
Tom.
*looks down andd decides that it's not worth it*
Tell ye what; will give you a biscuit to wear your moustache for a day.
Good afternoon Chunt Funter.
I've a better idea. Why don't you eat the peanuts from my sh!t.
Tom.
It's the only food you get in scouse land?
Peanuts gets digested, sweetcorn doesn't...
It would be poo, not peanuts.
I've seen peanuts in my poo before. Most nuts don't get digested, nutjob!
Ok...I was wrong.
@Tom: So in relation to the new infornation no, I will not eat your poop peanuts...But thank you.
So with the old information you would have?
Well, maybe just a little....I mean no, of course not! Don't be so disgusting, of course I wouldn't. Who would think of something so wrong...
Like having s3x with a scouse.
| Dirty_Barry wrote : So in relation to the new infornation no, I will not eat your poop peanuts... |
This makes me think you would have with the old information. If it was peanut BUTTer, you would have eaten it.
Chunky or creamy?
We are talking All-Natural, right? Noone subbing Shortening for the "natural oils"?
Hey.
I like Dell. They're giving me a free D640 Lattitude laptop, fully loaded. DVD-RW, 120GB HD, upgraded video card, (Newest -1 Cpu), and a case for free to keep.
hmm, how long since you went near a dell, i bought a laptop about 3 years ago now and it didn't come with a disk, they tried to say microsoft wouldn't let them, not sure if it was true or not, never researched it. still a bugger to get rid of it totally. Eventually wiped it using gparted off of a ubuntu live disc. Still i do hate dell and their preloading of software, should be a law against it and i am sure if the EU got their way it would be.
| RCPilot wrote : Dell must have changed.... I've loaded several Dell's clean with the Repair disc (I believe that's what it's called).... It put a new copy of XP on it without the bloat ware..... Of course you most likely have Vista & I haven't messed with a Dell Vista..... I have messed with a HP Vista & it worked the same as before as for a clean install.... |
No Vista....I wouldnt touch Vista with wingdings dong. My old HP had the recovery disk with the OS, but this new dell just has the image. The 4 diskes that came with it are a roxio disk, MS works (
) and 2 crapware disks.
Im going to be home for a few days next week, and I think I'l give their customer-lack of support a call and see if I can whine/wheedle/cajole them into sending me a disk. Ive got enough leagal copies of XPfloating arond, but I dont want to waste on this.

| JustPlainJef wrote : I've seen peanuts in my poo before. Most nuts don't get digested, nutjob! |
Jef
I sympathize with you digestive tract inadequacies. While I am not a doctor, allow me to prescribe a antidote to your peanutty poo:
Mastication.
This could come in handy for your up coming Xmas party.

It's been awhile since I checked out their site, but doesn't Dell offer you an OS disc for $10-15 when buying a rig?
The wifes Toshiba lappy from a few months ago came with an OS disk for $20 I believe. I've already had to use it. She now knows not to open every fcuking link her friends send her. The best thing? 160gb HD and she has no clue 60GB is partitioned for me with a back up of my mp3's. Heheh.
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