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New Gigabyte x1950 pro is loud???

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November 15, 2006 1:33:36 PM

Hey guys,

Got some questions... not sure if anyone else has this card... but after getting it, I discovered that it's a lot louder than I originally expected.

I bought the card assuming that the Zalman vf700 cooler they attached would make this thing run near silent based on the reviews of the cooler by other users, but the fan spins so fast and loud... it's as loud as my old x800 series AGP card in my old system....

I understand that loudness is subjective... but I can't imagine watching a movie or something with this thing wooshing in the background. Is there any way to make the fan spin slower? Would that be a bad idea? Any programs to monitor temperature of the gpu as well?

Thanks for any advice!
November 15, 2006 2:09:33 PM

Was there any software that came on the CD to allow you to do that? If not, you can use something like ATI Tray Tools to accomplish the same thing.
November 15, 2006 2:40:01 PM

Well, you could upgrade GPU cooler to this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1683...

This has less noise level than your current cooler (I own one and it's not as loud as my CPU fan unless you crank it up to max RPM). This also comes with FanMate (external fan speed controller), which you could use to turn down the speed of your fan when watching movies, then turn it up when playing games.

This thing is also going to be more efficient than the VF700, so you can probably get away with running it slower all the time (I have my fanmate cranked up to max, and I OC'd my card 100MHz over factory setting and under load it only hits 44c, which is cooler than my stock cooler kept card at stock clock settings).

You should be able to monitor temp in the ATI control panel (I'm using nV card right now so I forgot where the temp settings are in ATI control panel or if they exist).
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November 15, 2006 2:53:34 PM

@a123456 - I see, thanks for the suggestion. I will try to see if the ATI Tray Tools application can help me when I get home tonight.

@dean7 - yeah, the vf900 looks like a great cooler, I would definitely have gotten that if this card didn't already come w/a vf700. That being said, I'd rather not spend more money to upgrade the cooler... hopefully I can find a way to undervolt, or tweak the fan speed on this vf700 cooler. I don't plan on overclocking the video card at all, so as long as I can run it quiet enough while keeping temperatures at a reasonable level, I'd be happy.

Thanks again for the help guys.
November 15, 2006 2:55:18 PM

I used an Artic Cooling X2 on my 1900xt, quiet as a church mouse at 100% fan.

Good $30 spent.
November 15, 2006 2:57:16 PM

yeah, I was looking at that originally, but it won't fit into my HTPC case.

Height of that thing is GINORMOUS. =T

My case only has like 5.25 - 5.5 inches of height available I think... not too sure.
November 15, 2006 3:56:48 PM

Get a fan mate and cut the 3 pin plug off of an old fan or the like, cut the 2 pin end off of the cooler on the video card and splice it to the 3 pin plug. Then plug in the fan mate to your power supply instead of the card and the other end to the spliced plug on the cooler. It will work, but probably voids the cards warranty. Or you could get some noise canceling headphones :D 
November 15, 2006 6:10:39 PM

Probably void the warranty?? :lol: 
November 15, 2006 6:16:37 PM

BTW, can you maybe underclock it in 2d so it will run extra cool, making the fan spin down? Sorry, I'm just throwing suggestions out there based on nVidia control panel and assuming ATI panel has the same abilities.

Anyway, on nV control panel, you can set the 2d clock speeds and 3d clock speeds separately. Just a thought.

I'm pretty sure this is possible using "ATI Tool" (I did some research on google and found people changing 2d/3d speeds separately)

BTW, you can find more info on ATI Tool here:
http://www.techpowerup.com/atitool/
November 15, 2006 7:08:29 PM

You can solve the problem by building a dynamic temp / RPM table in ATI Tool 0.25 Beta 14. Click on Settings, then Fan Control, check "Override fan speeds" and select "Dynamic based on GPU temperature". Enter the following eight temperature and eight corresponding RPM values. I've found this works very well on my overclocked X1900XT, and perhaps with some minor tweaking, may serve you just as well.

40c - 23%
51c - 32%
54c - 45%
57c - 55%
60c - 68%
63c - 77%
66c - 91%
69c - 100%

When all values are entered click "Apply" and if you've set up custom profiles, then remember to click on "Save" to assign the tables to your profiles. You'll get the idea when you see it.

Hope this helps you out, and enjoy!
November 15, 2006 9:00:45 PM

Computronix - That's exactly what I've been looking for. I can't wait to get home and try it out. Thank's for the input. =)
November 15, 2006 9:48:43 PM

My only concern is specifically X1950 support in ATI Tool 0.25 Beta 14. I checked their website, and although they don't specify "1900 series" I'm confident that you'll be able to set up the tables for your 1950 (nice card), which is a 1900 with GDDR4 memory at 2k. It's possible that the values I gave you may work perfectly without any tweaking. Let me know how it goes.
November 16, 2006 12:16:19 AM

hmm... I installed ATI Tool, but I don't see the option to change fan speed unfortunately... followed your steps but there just isn't an option to set fan settings. =(
November 16, 2006 12:22:06 AM

Verify that you installed 0.25 Beta 14, and not 0.24, which is tha latest non-beta release, and doesn't support the 1900.
November 16, 2006 1:46:57 AM

yeah, that's the version I installed... maybe it doesn't show the option because it doesn't support the x1950pro series yet?
November 16, 2006 4:30:53 AM

Still no luck, this is what I'm getting for the dropdown... I guess it just doesn't have support for the x1950pro series yet? =/

November 16, 2006 12:50:46 PM

Well, I don't have the Gigabyte version, but ATI Tray Tools 1.2.6.955 can adjust my 1950 Pro's fan speed. *shrug*

This is not the same as ATITool.
November 16, 2006 1:22:09 PM

I see, unfortunately, that there's still no fan control selection in this beta of ATI Tool for your board, so it's probably an AGP / PCIe interface support issue. Plan B may require a different software fan control alternative, but I'm not aware of any viable options. Plan C may be a hardware mod such as a FanMate which has been suggested, or Plan D may involve upgrading to a more suitable cooling solution. I wish we could pull a rabit out of our hats for you. Anyone know of another software solution that will provide AGP fan control?
November 16, 2006 2:46:53 PM

@a12345 - yeah, tried installing ATI Tray Tools as per your suggestion, couldn't find an option to adjust fan speed either on first glance... I'll try to check more thoroughly again tonight. Thanks.
November 16, 2006 2:49:54 PM

It's kind of in the back. Under Overclocking Settings and then the second tab over for Fan Speed. Does the VF700 require a 3 pin mobo/4 pin molex or is it just plugged into the video card's 2/3 pin?
November 16, 2006 3:04:24 PM

ahh, thx for the info. I'll check that tonight.

From what I saw, and if I remember correctly, the fan is connected straight to the video card... so I guess it's the 2/3 pin (does this stand for 2 wires to 3 pins, cause I think there's a red and black wire that goes from the fan and ends up going into a 3 pin located on the video card itself). And then there's a pci-e power connector that powers the video card.
November 16, 2006 3:23:10 PM

Yeah, that's the same as mine, so it should have software fan speed control. I believe the VF900s connect directly to the mobo or a molex if you have a converter, so the fan speed is fixed unless you adjust it with hardware.
November 16, 2006 3:25:14 PM

ahh... that's good to hear, hopefully I can figure it out tonight. I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks for the quick responses, and overall patience with this. :) 
November 17, 2006 2:18:43 AM

Not to change the topic, but I noted that you're runnig a Xeon 3050; at what settings, how do you like it, and what motivated you to choose it? I'm very interested in the overclocking potentials of the 3070 so I started this thread:

http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/Xeon-3070-4Ghz-...

I've had only one response so far, refering me to a 3060 thread by our friends over at ExtremeSystems. My impression is that the Xeon 3xxx is a well kept secret. I strongly suspect that the 3070 may be the best C2D overclocker avalable, very probably capable of achieving 4Ghz. What are your insights on the Xeon 3xxx C2D Conroe?

And let me know how you're doing with your GPU fan.
November 17, 2006 2:58:29 AM

ATi Tray Tools is the only program that works well with the X19xx series in my opinion. The voltage controls in ATi Tool have some type of problem.
November 17, 2006 5:21:16 PM

@a123456 - Found the Fan control tab in ATi Tray Tools, however it's giving me, "No supported hardware found"... so I believe that I'm once again out of luck unless they support it in a future update somehow...

@CompuTronics - I picked the 3050 kind of as a mistake. Originally, when they first became available, intel and newegg and other e-tailors were listing the 3040, and 3050 as their respective e6300 / e6400 counterparts yet with a L2 cache of 4 mb. That's mainly the reason I went to buy the 3050. This of course, turned out to be a typo, so there's been debate over whether or not xeon 3xxx series are merely rebranded conroes. I'm not too sure, and can't give you that much more detail beyond that since my knowledge of overclocking is limited; but DaSickNinja on these forums did a lot of testing between the 3060 and the e6600, and gave some benchmarks found here. Overall, I think he prefers the 3060 for overclocking, and does not regret the purchase.
November 17, 2006 5:30:22 PM

Hm, not sure then. Which driver set do you have? The 6.11s? If not, try those. Otherwise, see if there's something on the CD that came with the card. Some type of utility.
November 17, 2006 9:24:25 PM

Sparhawk1022,

Thanks for the info regarding your Xeon. I had read DaSickNinja's thread when it was first posted. Nice piece of work. I'll keep looking for info on 3070 users.

Regarding your GPU cooling versus noise dilema, I was re-reading your posts, and if I understand correctly, your fan has only two wires, which of course are red and black, as per the following:

[From what I saw, and if I remember correctly, the fan is connected straight to the video card... so I guess it's the 2/3 pin (does this stand for 2 wires to 3 pins, cause I think there's a red and black wire that goes from the fan and ends up going into a 3 pin located on the video card itself).]

If there's no third "tach" wire, which is typically yellow, then there's no feedback loop for fan control, which could explain the message "No supported harware found". The original coolers have three wires, so your solution may simply be to replace the two wire fan with a three wire fan.

Take another close look at it and let us know what you see.
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