Mine are 10, 14 and 17. At the moment it's the 14 yearold that is trying to rule the family, without understand what she's doing or that anything is wrong with her ways. Some times i just can't beleive what's going on. It's like her reality isn't the same as the rest of the familie's.
For close to a month now she's been having 4, 5 and even 6 friends in the house at night in the basement to what movies, chat and fool around. I have connected 3 systems there. So that's a lot of in and out(it was -17c here yesterday) and doorbells and phone calls and such. So the other night they all go onto the front balcony because 2 or 3 of them have to have their smooke and my youngest daughter happens to see one of them put out his cigaret on the brick wall just beside the front door and tells mom about it. So when my 14 yearold comes back in with her friends mom tells her it's not nice to do that and to stop. My daughter then tells her mom that it's impolite to say that without saying please. at least my wife didn't loose her cool at that and just replied that it was because it was really not a nice thing to do putting the cigaret out like that plus they have been throwing the butts onto the front lawn.
So that's just to give you an idea about how things are and there are lots of situations similar to that when it's with me also. I often let go of what i was doing to go drive one of her friends home because he/she has no ride. If i say no it's often a big thing and i.m a bad person. Like i said it's as if she can only see her side of things. It's really difficult and these are only minor examples. She's was suspended from shool for having been caught selling drugs and has been definatly suspended 2 weeks ago for having missed 120 classes since september. She's been given assigments untill her case is evaluated in january.
So you could say it hasn't been boring lately.
dear god man, tie her up to the bed, have her exorcised and then lock her up till she is at least 25.
seriously, i think you need to keep her away from her group and get her some new friends. no matter how bad a person you may seem, you need to be her father and protect her from these influences.
of course i don't have kids and have no idea what i am talking about but it wasn't that long ago i was that age(is a decade a long time?) and i still remember that time, vaguely. Not that i was rebellious but people my age were and they need control.
I stink at being firm and authoritive. It'll have to be some other way. We're all going to the psychologist this wendnesday. Now that is going to be fun isn't it?
well, i'm not sure, what to do. you need to stop people smoking around your daughter for one thing and make sure no drinking is going on and stop any drug use, it won't be long till someone knocks her up.
do you have her enrolled in any activities, i believe i have said this before but if you can keep her active and disciplined it might help.
Yes you said martial arts i beleive, and she is in ringuette which is a type of girls hockey but with a stait end stick and a rubber ring instead of a puck. It's on ice with skates. But that's just 2 a week, 3 at most, so maybe another activity would help.
you could go along with her and get to fight her in a formal supervised manner, you could use it as a means of communicating and understanding each other.
She'd love to do that with her mom
| pike wrote : I stink at being firm and authoritive. It'll have to be some other way. |
This is the main problem. You have to be firm and authoritive. It's your house, you ARE the authority. With my girls, 3 and 6, I try to reason with them but at a certain point, they gotta' get a good solid swat in the ass. You need to make it absolutely clear it is your house and with that comes your rules. A shrink, apologies to Wingy, isn't going to help if she won't respect your authoritie.[/Cartman]
Be loving, be compationate, understand she's a teenager and surely an emotional basket case. But most of all, be firm and MAKE her understand what is acceptable and what is not. When she moves out, she's free to do as she wants, but until then, she does what you want. Period. If you cave,, you're done for, and to a certain extent, she is.
She'll hate you now for it, but they all do, an will love you more than ever when she grows and understands.
For the record, the 3yr old's been swatted twice and the 6yr old only 4 times. When they know there's a price to pay, they get in line pretty quicky. I'll do everything I can for them, but they WILL NOT walk over Nicole and I.
Punch her in the face.
Twice.[/king]
I've been lucky with my oldest daughter. She will be 18 at the end of this month. She is well adjusted and has never been in any serious trouble. She does well in school and works part time at our local sheriff's department. There are times when I beat my head trying to reason with her - but I will tell you that being involved and firm discipline really helps.
I'm not saying that you are an uninvolved parent but your girl is obviously walking on you and your wife.You need to really put your foot down on the friends and lack of respect in your home. I would put an end to the smoking on your property. Lay down reasonable/logical rules and stick by them. Kids do need rules. It's tough but you have to do it.
You can't isolate her from her crowd but you might need to find a way to get her involved with better people to hang out with. Getting her involved with sports like some others have suggested is a good start and I think she is already. I would suggest that maybe if there is a way to move her to a different school, perhaps a private school that can possibly help her focus on her work - then do it. I'm not sure how practical this would be for your family and it may not be possible.
Regardless - you need to remove her from her current environment, or at least limit the exposure to the bad influences. There will be many battles that you will have to endure - be prepared. Just develop a thick skin and stay firm with the rules you set. Remind her that she lives with a family and is part of the family - how she conducts herself effects everyone in the family. Drugs, smoking, and other unacceptable behaviors should not be tolerated. You have a younger sibling that is exposed to this and could eventually follow suit. The problem would then only multiply. Your 14 year old and you are setting an example for her unintentionally. It's a hard one to break because some habits have already developed at this point.
Counseling may help. You have to help as well - or it will not work. Being a good parent is tough. Hang in there.
If all else fails - punch her in the face [/frustrated]
| rtard wrote : I've been lucky with my oldest daughter. She will be 18 at the end of this month. She is well adjusted and has never been in any serious trouble. She does well in school and works part time at our local sheriff's department. There are times when I beat my head trying to reason with her - but I will tell you that being involved and firm discipline really helps.
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Word!
Do what they used to do in the old days - just smack them a few times.
Training them at a young age works too.
If she's been skipping school, then all hope is lost. Kill her now and save the world the trouble. [/Riser]
Harden the fock up Pike!
I agree, don't let her walk all over you, and try to limit her time with her "bad" friends.
It won't be easy, you won't be the nice guy, but you can't give her everything. It won't help long term, and the other two will expect the same (most likely).
I like Llama man's idea of killing her - would save him and the world a sh!t load of trouble...
| llama_man wrote : If she's been skipping school, then all hope is lost. Kill her now and save the world the trouble. [/Riser] |
Not me. If she's skipping school, have her drop out, get the GED (Good Enough Degree), put her in college and give her a head start over the stupid fcuks still going to high school. The freedom of college will give her an education, the chance at having her own porn star website, and time to hang with older people who are authorative.
Killing...
It is a disservice to the world by killing off female prostitutes or potential ones. Money is to be made.
P/PC.
You can't be the cool dad.
No smoking in or around the house. And keep an eye on her. If she seems to be hiding things, well, she is. DOn't be paranoid about it or she will just find some other place to hide things.
teh thing is, she has found a group of kids that accept her, and at that age there is little else that is more valuable. Unfortunately, she found the worng crowd. You really need to do this in all the ways people have been saying. Draw the line (BOTH you and your wife) and stick to it. Go to counceling, and try to get her involved with other people.
GL!
(BTW, how do you get an "old" teenager?
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Punch her in the ovaries.
Previously stated:
Its too late to force her into change. You get what you put into it and that was the last 14 years of raising her. I wouldn't bother trying to fix the today but I'd work towards fixing her for tomorrow.
It takes a little time for broken bones to heal.. might be just what the doctor called for.
Punch her in the eye socket.
Wait until she figures out the "its not so bad" approach.
"Dad, I have bad news. I'm pregnant."
Then "Not really, but some of my friends smoke cigarettes."
Its not so bad.
Kick her in the kidney stones.
Get her tubes tied and safe the world all in one surgery.
Bite her nipple off.
She's 14 you sick pedo.
Er...at what point were we being serious?
It's a forum; I was joking...I'm posting violent actions that I would never do...
maybe you're the sick pedo.
This is a forum, good observation mental midget. We don't know what you would and would not do; we believe all is true down here.
Yes, Wingding is legit.
We also have lines down here that we do not cross. You crossed the line and your mental midget status is not an excuse for your actions in this situation.
If you believe I would punch and kick a 14 year old girl then get a life you sick fcuk.
I never take anything serious around here, so lighten up you crack wh0re.
Drop it. You crossed the line and now its just not cool.
STFU crack wh0re.
It's just you being a jerk.
There is that one line here & you did cross it.....
Be more mindful in the future when you post... We all have fun, but not the expense of children IMO....
@ RC pilot.
My apologies then.
IMO I didn't think it would be taken so seriously.
In my defence who the hell on Earth would actually punch a child? There are those that would but I (hope) none of us here.
So apologies all round.
| Quote : Bite her nipple off. |
It was that comment, just so you know...
No problem, it happens now & again.....
i didn''t see anything wrong with it, i was just interested to see how imaginative you were.
still, just so you know, i regularly strangle, slam into the ground and hold teenage girls on the floor, does this make me a bad person.
So long as it did not have to do with anything sexual.
Feel free to beat the living daylights out of whatever minors you want here, just avoid saying ni**le in the same sentence!
Office Policy:
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
Also, kids should be regularly beat to let them know they're worth. When they bring home a paycheck it should go directly to the ones supporting him/her, followed by a shift kick in their ass.
I'm all for spanking kids. Its the damned fools who take out their aggression in the spankings that give it a bad name.
This sound like my 12 year old, shes got the biggest room in the house for her friends so the other day a gathering of people were going up there. Me being a curious dad went in the room and they had a friggen 2/4, sent everyone one home, took the puter away cut off all communications of friends.
I'ts my way or go live with the C.A.S her friends now respect what I have to say and expressed to them all that I'm the one that gets charged for them drinking. When you guys get of age then party hearty but not in my house. Being a girl I'm a softy when it comes to spankings.
You are going to have to take control of that situation or else it can get hard for you.
| pike wrote : I stink at being firm and authoritive. It'll have to be some other way. We're all going to the psychologist this wendnesday. Now that is going to be fun isn't it? |
Why doesnt this surprise me?
Thanks for the much needed opinions and life situations.
Oh, just wish to say that things went very well and my daughter has found out she was with a bad crowd. She said so herself. And she's now eager to get back to shool and her `regular`friends.
relief
Glad to hear that pal.
I got money saying she's pregnant!
Yeah well that's always a possibility but we`ll deal with that if ever it comes to that.
I, like Wingy, am happy to hear that. Please make sure she's not playing you. I don't mean to sound negative, just be careful.
Genuine best regards.
Tom.
Hope it all goes well with your daughter. Hope she grows into a well-rounded, respected woman who bashes hippies in the face with a shovel.
you may wish to torture her a bit to make sure you are getting the turth, good old water torture should do ther trick, tie her to her bed, fill a paint tin with water(weak acid if you are being ruthless) and pop a hole in the bottom. after a while she should be deemed reasonably truthful.
hope this advice comes in handy.
I honestly would volunteer to be waterboarded. I want to know how bad it is.
I'm a bit like that. See how many days you can survive before you go insane.
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