8800GTX review on Tomshardware: am I missing something...?

Go with contacts actually.....glasses are so yesterday.

I think you have it, the grass near the horse's ear is slightly different. Or was that the grass near the horse's rear is slightly different? Even with new glasses, the screen shots look the same to me. If that's the "extra" quality that the 8800 brings to the screen, I'll stay with my present card.

They were IMO just bad examples. I could'nt see any difference either, but I have seen screens posted here on the forumz that look pretty damn good. Check the link. There aren't any comparisons, but these are some of the best Oblivion screens I've seen.



http://forumz.tomshardware.com/har [...] 09004.html

Damn, the pictures are gone. Sorry, I tried.

Guys, I have a feeling they simply screwed up and posted the same picture twice. If they say there's a significant difference between the two, then we should be able to see it naked eye; otherwise they look like biased idiots. It's really easy to screw up your web layout, so I'm betting that's what happened.

I see...I honestly only took a cursory glance at the two a few days ago and didn't notice a difference. Well, my bad...

I've got a Samsung 215TW at 1680 x 1050 right now...problem is, I'm also running a 9600XT. That should change in the next few days, though.

ye right. unfortunately, regardless of what monitor you have the images res and for that matter detail does not change. i too have a HD monitor and see no difference whatsoever except maybe those that occur in oblivion due to the way it works.

note i do not mean IQ differences. please don't come away with that "my eyes are better than yours" crap also.

HD monitor making a difference my ass.

he meant the screenies.

Some would argue that AA is not noticable, and useless...

Yeah, riiiight....

Couldn't resist.

What kinda of HD monitor, because my P260 finely tuned isn't showing any massive differences, and if you use a difference calculator which would show a 'HUGE' difference if they were even noticeable, doesn't show much at all.

So while I'd agree TFT vs CRT, but I'm looking at a top CRT and already ran them through Compressonator and Photoshop before. The differences are not big enough to be considered 'huge'.

Anywhoo, the issue was pretty well covered in a previous thread;
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/har [...] 08229.html

The impressive thing is not the differences in the static images, but the performance differences that allow higher settings on the GF8800s, for the review though they were comparing similar resolutions and AA, and really the AF differences don't reflect a great difference, but it has been said the author meant when all factors are added together, HigherRes+AA+AF.

Yeah they do look basically the same in terms of image quality.
There are differences when looking at the rocks and the grass adjacent them on the X1950XTX screenshot. Obviously, if you look hard enough, you'll spot the variances.
There's nothing significant between the two. Certainly while playing the game, it shouldn't even be noticeable.

Oh, and who still rides horses? Fast travel is where it's at. 8O

I was really leaning towards upgrading my X1950XTX to a 8800GTS, but from that review I can see it truly isn't worth it.

When it comes to GPU reviews stay away from tomshardware. As for everything else its a cool site.


I actually just upgraded from a X1900XT to a 8800 GTX and as good as OB looked on the 1900 it looks that much better on the GTX from the improved levels of AA and AF along with better colors and what seems to be better hdr.

Why tomshardware chose a dark picture for comparison I will never know

When I get home I will try to post comparisons from my old card to my new card for you as I have both saved on my PC.

Those were my pics I will post them again for all to see.

Once again utter and complete bs from tomshardware.com they are the only morons I know of who recorded that low of a FPS at just 1024X768res:roll:

I am about to post pics of OB running on my new 8800GTX. I have it at 1280X1024 with 8aa-16aa and 16af+hdr and the driver settings on high quality.

The in game options are totally and competely maxed out and as you can see I am shattering 40fps.




Hang on! more to come as I wait on stupid photobucket

The general consensus on the web is that Toms Hardware reviews fukcing suck ass. Most of it stems from one of the more famous reviews that Toms did of the FX 5800 Ultra.

Brute force attack against the King

Millions were appalled by this review. Toms Hardware crowned the FX5800Ultra graphics King over the ATi 9700Pro, and the review was written by Lars "Wiener" Weinand, Long time nVidiot, and owner of the RivaStation nVidia fan site

Here's the proof.


It was a shameful time to be associated with Toms, but luckily back then, the forums weren't "Google linked", and we were pretty much a secret society.

Things have changed a lot since then, Lars ran off to join ATi Corporate(go figure ) and we have good impartial reviewers like Cleeve who is stuck cleaning up the mess, and dealing with the negativity that "Borsti" left in his wake.

While no review site is free from the occasional "grumblings" of enthusiast readers, Toms has come a long way in terms of respect, and seeing Cleeve travel to other forums to get input and deal with the "Toms sucks" bullshit that he receives, makes me feel safe to once again recommend Tom's reviews to people outside our circle, something I never would have foreseen happening.

*edit*

Fukcing forum lag. Cheap ass site cant afford a server that will keep up.

It's lame waiting 10 min. to post something and have it go through

Me too. Did my pics Fuk it up? To much for tomshardware pos server to handle?

WTH? I see them just fine...........

I think all your NFS carbon pics brought that topic to a crawl. At least that was my theory as Anytime I clicked to view all, it was a given it would be a while.