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i am going to build a dual core 2 processor. Looking for MB

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November 17, 2006 8:18:13 PM

Hello,
I going to build a new box and i want to have two dual Core 2 processors. (eventually upgrade to quad core)

My local guy suggests a Supermicro X7DAL-E. Any comments.?
The one thing i found is i am pretty limited to cases.

Any other guidance or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

thanks
Randy
November 17, 2006 8:58:16 PM

Not happening. The Core 2 Duo doesn't have the ability to work in a multiprocessor situation. Only the 5xxx and 7xxx series Xeon processors can do so. Those are LGA 771 and a different beast all together.
November 17, 2006 9:11:53 PM

Thanks for the response.

Still learning here...

i thought i could do it, because apple sells a MacPro with

"Every Mac Pro in the lineup features two of the newest Dual-Core Intel Xeon processors. Two dual-cores. One powerful quad workstation. And you get to decide how fast it flies: 2GHz, 2.66GHz, or 3GHz. And at 3GHz, the Mac Pro runs up to 2x faster than the Power Mac G5 Quad.(1)

Processor
Enjoy quad-core performance from two Dual-Core Intel Xeon “Woodcrest” processors, available in speeds up to 3GHz. Choose the speed you want.

Two 2.0GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon [Subtract $299]
Two 2.66GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon
Two 3.0GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon [Add $799]

Thanks Randy
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November 17, 2006 9:24:21 PM

You are most likely after one of the below solutions:

- 2 x Xeon 5100 (2 x 2 cores)
- 1 x Core 2 Quad (1 x 4 cores)
- 2 x Xeon 5300 (2 x 4 cores)


I can help you with this, as I've used Tyan, etc gear before and understand the Registered, ECC, and/or FB-DIMMs and 'workstation/server' chipsets on the board of which you speak. (and several of which you haven't, but may want to look at).

Core 2 Extreme QX6700 is covered here:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=286...

Quad-Core (2 x 4 = 8 way) Xeon E5300 article:
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4914

The Xeon 5100 / 5300 are covered here on the Intel site:
http://www.intel.com/products/processor/xeon/index.htm

8) Bear in mind the 5100 / 5300 both use the Core 2 Micro-architecture, they just permit 2 sockets, each with 2 or 4 cores, for 4 - 8 way computing - typically with 8 - 32 MB L2 cache.


You may also want to check out:

::TyanPSC:: (Personal Super Computer)

http://www.tyanpsc.com/ - Link to TyanPSC site

http://www.tyan.com/ - Link to Tyan site

ftp://ftp.tyan.com/typhoon/TYAN_Typhoon_512K.wmv - Video - May need to right-click, then save as... / download before playing - It may not work with a single left click. :p 

Despite what the video says their latest model will provide 256 GLFOPS, using 40 x 1.6 GHz Xeon (Core 2 based) cores.
November 19, 2006 8:28:06 AM

For the time being, the Core 2 duo are outperforming the Kentfields (software constraints). But a lot of mb’s (if not all) that support the Core 2 duo will also support the quad cores should you want to upgrade down the road.. Are you sure you cant use just one chip like the x6800 versus getting multiple older xeons? Is the computer going to be a home/personal gaming system etc or will you be using it at a small business or what?
November 22, 2006 6:01:54 AM

The Xeon 5100 / 5300 series are younger than the Core 2 Duo :wink:
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November 22, 2006 7:13:14 AM

Your going to build a dual core processor? Good luck with that :lol: 
November 22, 2006 7:21:23 AM

Quote:
The Xeon 5100 / 5300 series are younger than the Core 2 Duo :wink:


Oh, I had the impression that June 26 (Xeon 5100) comes before July 23 (Core 2 extreme x6800). But I was rather speaking in terms of the architecture of the chip itself, as the xeon architecture is much older than the Core 2 duo’s and more specifically the Core 2 extremes. So I was actually right no matter how you view my original statement 8)
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November 22, 2006 2:10:44 PM

I think you are talking about Xeon 5000, these are based on netburst.

The Xeon 5100 are basically Core 2 Duo with 1333FSB instead of 1066 and support for multiple socket.
5300 are like Core 2 Quad,(kentsfield) with the same 1333FSB vs 1066.

So sorry you are actually wrong :?
November 23, 2006 10:53:27 AM

Point taken, just takes about 4-6 weeks for Xeon (sever) CPUs to become available, so the July announcement annoucement led to September / October availability.

While the Core 2 Duo chips are generally available from électronic retailers within 2-3 weeks of being announced.

I'll give you that one 8) , but I'd rather forget (not referenced above, bar last comment) the Netburst based Xeon 5000 series and earlier.

The only Intel non-NGMA* server CPU series on the market I am aware of is the Xeon 7000 series, and they are power monsters using Netburst with high core counts and heaps of cache.

* - Next Generation Micro-Architecture = (Core 2 Micro-architecture)


But yeah, both the Xeon 5100 and Xeon 5300 series are based on the Intel NGMA (Core 2) micro-architecture. The later being for 2 x 4 core server / heavy workstation systems.
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