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February 9, 2010 3:41:38 PM

Scripting errors on the Toms Hardware site.

...Every other day the Toms Hardware home page asks me which country/language I prefer.

...the "Error on page" message athat appears in the IE status bar every other time I visit the site

...the site randomly deciding that it will not allow me to automatically log in.


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February 10, 2010 1:54:30 AM

Because it doesn't work properly in IE. It's built for Firefox and IE is just too non-standard to work with the fancy stuff they use on this site.
February 10, 2010 2:43:18 AM

On a side note, it also does alright with Opera if that is your cup of tea.
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February 10, 2010 5:18:00 PM

randomizer said:
Because it doesn't work properly in IE. It's built for Firefox and IE is just too non-standard to work with the fancy stuff they use on this site.


IIRC, IE8 is supposed to be much more standards compliant than previous versions, so it's odd then that I should be having any problems. Whether that's true or not, IE has a 60~70% browser marketshare. Drop IE 6 share from the pool (justified, IMO) and you're looking at 35~40% share. Given that, the fancy stuff that's possible by building on Firefox may be a nice technical achievement, but if these features come at the cost of making the site work incorrectly/inconsistently for 35~40% of your users, the cost of these features are too high, and not representative of good business sense (my opinion).




February 10, 2010 10:07:25 PM

IE8 gets 20/100 in the Acid3 test for me, whereas FF 3.6 gets 92/100 (still not perfect).

I agree that IE 7/8 should be supported properly (although it would be much better if MS didn't try to redefine every standard and screw up the world), but IE6 needs to die. Web developers can't keep using hacks to try and get standardised features to work on a completely broken browser for the rest of time. There comes a point where security of a website is more paramount than allowing employees of businesses that are so behind in the world as to be using IE6 to stop doing their work and surf the web without problems.

If IE6 wasn't such a failure at standards compliance there would be no issue with internal company websites only working on it (requiring redevelopment now to work on newer browsers), and therefore companies could more easily move to newer browsers.
February 11, 2010 1:05:45 PM

Dont tell that to some xp users heheh
February 11, 2010 11:57:31 PM

use chrome it works perfectly for me
February 13, 2010 4:49:01 PM

Had the same problems, installed Firefox, viola', no more problems.
I have to say, you never really understand just what a screwed up mess IE is until you try a decent browser. I cannot believe I was stuck using it for so long, there really are much, much, much, better browsers out there, we kid you not.
February 14, 2010 12:01:51 PM

I mighttake your advice guys ... updated to IE8 and things are not going well with it.

Damned thing is a pain ...

February 23, 2010 1:41:09 PM

IE8 works if your site choose to support it, iToms Hardware dont - Simple as that.
February 23, 2010 9:53:55 PM

rantoc said:
IE8 works if your site choose to support it, iToms Hardware dont - Simple as that.

You shouldn't have to "choose" to support a browser. If it is standards-compliant, it will be compatible by any standards-compliant website. IE is not standards-compliant, so you need to hack things to make it work. IE is the problem, not the site.

IE6 was the worst bungle of all. I saw a job advertisement 2 days ago where one of the requirements was knowing about IE6 website hacks. :sarcastic: 
March 10, 2010 2:28:49 AM

What's with the change in article comments? Why was show comments by type removed and why does focus move to the top every time I change the comments page, I don't need to read the article with every new page?

This is something I'm "getting really tired of" because it was better a few weeks ago.

p.s.: hopefully this is the right forum for this
March 10, 2010 10:10:50 AM

The comments system has been buggy lately, I agree. I often can't change comments page without refreshing the whole page. This is especially true when I'm on Linux, but sometimes in Windows as well. Both times using Firefox 3.6.

EDIT: Bah, I can't show or hide comments any more either. Makes it difficult to respond to people posting rubbish!
March 11, 2010 3:48:25 PM

Pull some strings randomizer, it's really sad when we lose functionality..
March 12, 2010 2:18:24 PM

Indeed. I'm not sure if there is another forum where we can bug people about this, but I experience the same. This is just a quote from a news page...
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lordcrazexis it just me or the 'Show' & 'Hide' button aren't working as they should be... ..& this has been going on for days...uh..is Tom's being hacked?

I noticed this too... Show/Hide hasn't worked since, uhm, Tuesday I think. It doesn't work on Chrome 4.0.249.89, FF3.6, or IE8, IE6 doesn't work and also gives script errors. Also, changing pages on the comments screen pulls me back to the top of the page with the aforementioned browsers.
March 12, 2010 3:32:59 PM

I hate the language pop-up. It never remembers the language for me and I use both chrome and firefox. Explorer just isn't secure enough for me. And if I click on the language, it doesn't do anything just reloads it back up. I have to click X in the upper right corner to close it. I've been having trouble with it since It has been added to tomshardware. I have the same problem at home or at work.

There has to be a better solution than this thing.
March 13, 2010 8:45:06 PM

The language pop-up is a problem for anyone who clears cookies upon a browser close (I set my browsers to do this) and for anyone who tries to view the site on a mobile.

IMO Tom's Hardware is strangely behind the curve on pop-ups...
March 27, 2010 1:40:54 PM

Yeah ... they keep popping up.

I got some weird one about another survey yesterday.

Reminded me of a soap ad from the 1960's ...

Scary.
March 30, 2010 8:47:34 AM

Same here, FF and no, cookies work perfectly everywhere except on tom's.
For whatever reason, I can't enter the US site atm, only the Europeans' one work.
March 31, 2010 5:55:10 AM

IE8 script errors. I had to download Google Chrome just to post this message. Also getting tired of the survey page when I enter Toms Hardware for the first time. Tom's must be desperate for ad revenue accepting these annoying ads. It's going to start turning your viewers away.
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April 4, 2010 1:01:01 AM

Who's the genius webmaster that does not build website to make sure it works 100% in IE? I'm sorry to say but MS is the dominant browser and when you run an online magazine to get across a large demographics, building and testing it on any other browser is secondary to microsoft. That's like rule#1 for any webmaster. I now have this annoying survey popping up even after I completed it.
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