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November 18, 2006 7:05:12 PM

I'm a casual first-person gamer and on a tight budget. I just wanna play Half Life 2 without buying those fancy and expensive videocards.

I remember from previous reviews (years ago) that although FX5200s have poor showing in playing latest games at the time (when Half Life2 was launched), I'm nevertheless interested just to get on with it.

My question is, will FX5200 do the job? Doesn't matter if it plays at lowest fps or res. :roll:

My specs:
P4 2ghz
Asrock P4i45GV (integrated sound & video)
Maxtor 40gb 72krpm
256 mb RAM DDR266
XP Home (no SP1 updates)
Creative 5.1 speakers
AOC 17" CRT flat

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a b U Graphics card
November 18, 2006 7:31:28 PM

probably. but not very good.

you do need to upgrade whenever possiable though.
November 18, 2006 7:53:02 PM

An FX5200 should be able to play the game if you turn down the graphic settings and play at low resolution. You should also be concerned with the RAM too, because with only 256MB, it'll be using the hard drives for virtual memory quite a bit.
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November 18, 2006 7:57:23 PM

i have an fx5500, and its good, but if u are buiying a new video card, id probably get a 7300 gt with ddr3, cause that would own half life 2 awesomely
November 18, 2006 8:04:04 PM

your first question raises another very important question...

have you ever played HL2 on an 'okay' system?

... the minimum eh?

usually isn't the best idea... just skip going out for lunch for a week... add that money to the pile and get something a little bigger... a little better

you will be much happier and hey you might even shed a couple lbs.

:wink:
November 18, 2006 8:10:40 PM

I have an fx5200 and i strongly suggest you dont use it unless you only care about the HL2 story. With today's graphics you can get a much better card for under 100. fx5200 was the baseline graphics 3 generations ago (if you count 8800gtx as current gen). Finding a 6 series card is easy and i went from a 5900ultra to a 6800 xt on another rig and found a HUGE increase in performance for $110
November 18, 2006 8:33:56 PM

[edit] misunderstood quote, my apologies... [/edit]

The 5200 will strruggle with HL2, It's the weak GPU that is the problem. It will probably be able to handle 800x600 with reduced details, maybe even 1024x768 with super low detail, assuming a decent CPU in the system.

256mb of system RAM is horribly underequipped for Half Life, as people have said you should have 512mb system ram minimum, 1 gb would be even better.
November 18, 2006 8:34:57 PM

I would recommend at least 512MB of RAM and a Geforce 6600.
a b U Graphics card
November 18, 2006 8:45:31 PM

yes. i have a dell
celeron 2.4
2x256ram
fx5200 128mb in pci

it plays call of duty 2 great even with a.a.x2
the smoke even looks good. in dx7.0 or 8.0 though

it played halflife good not sure about hl2 though.
November 18, 2006 9:01:32 PM

What's your spending budget? If it's around a hundred bucks, I'd say go for an extra 256MB ram, and get a Radeon X1300XT. It's a great low-end card that should be able to handle Half-Life 2, and it costs around $75.
November 18, 2006 9:11:49 PM

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What's your spending budget? If it's around a hundred bucks, I'd say go for an extra 256MB ram, and get a Radeon X1300XT. It's a great low-end card that should be able to handle Half-Life 2, and it costs around $75.


Kind of like what I have (The X1300 but mine has 512MB's lol I know its too much ram but it sounded like fun !)

I have to say for a cheap card it does play HL2 realy well and Episode One too !
November 18, 2006 10:23:21 PM

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256 mb RAM DDR266
XP Home (no SP1 updates)


8O

Im suprised XP Home runs on 256MB of ram, nevermind HL2.
November 18, 2006 11:11:01 PM

If you want to play HL2 only, get an ATI card. HL2 was designed on and basically for ATI, Nvidia's framrates for the money compared to it are much much lower unless you buy like a 7950 GX2 or an 8800. Like they said, X1300.
November 19, 2006 2:49:03 AM

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256 mb RAM DDR266
XP Home (no SP1 updates)


8O

Im suprised XP Home runs on 256MB of ram, nevermind HL2.

I think you can run it with 128MB's (its been a while since I have been in class and thats one of those things you dont see much in this day of 1 and 2GB's machines lol)

Always surprises me on how little RAM you need untill you get into games or some other multi media aplications !
November 19, 2006 6:03:00 AM

With all the suggestions you guy's have...I think I better start skipping lunch and dinner money to be able to buy a decent card after all. If you see no post from me the coming weeks...pls pray for me! :lol: 
November 19, 2006 6:37:07 AM

well, I have similar system specs. P4 2.5, 512 RAM and a FX 5200. In my experiance, it doesnt play well. I have to lower the res and settings to get *acceptable* play levels. So, technically, yes you can play Half Life 2, but dont expect any eye candy unless you like slideshows...
November 19, 2006 7:08:31 AM

For me, I dislike my bfg 7800 agp card for hl2dm. I lag on the big maps:(  As far as I am concerned agp is dead, any mobo w/out pcie, I don't want it.

hl2dm ftw!!

3200 xp
2gig of ram
7800 bfg gc
November 19, 2006 12:49:07 PM

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XP Home (no SP1 updates)


Why are you not running SP2? Without even having SP1 on you are no longer recieving security updates from MS, and within 5 mins of being connected to the net without a firewall that machine is going to be so full of trojans and viruses it will be running at the speed of a 486.
November 19, 2006 1:30:10 PM

i'd recommend getting a 9550. i have one, i got it for free, but they run like $30-40 bucks. i love it b/c i got it for free, but its really not a bad card. i get pretty nice frames with everything turned up, no aa or af. so i'm really really happy, especially for the price. heh. but, yeah, if you have the money, definately buy higher. definately. with good 7 series and 6 series cards being sub-or close to $100, just save up.
November 19, 2006 8:10:09 PM

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i'd recommend getting a 9550. i have one, i got it for free, but they run like $30-40 bucks. i love it b/c i got it for free, but its really not a bad card. i get pretty nice frames with everything turned up, no aa or af. so i'm really really happy, especially for the price. heh. but, yeah, if you have the money, definately buy higher. definately. with good 7 series and 6 series cards being sub-or close to $100, just save up.


I'll attest to the 9550 cards, not much difference in frame rate than a 7800 gs, missing hdr though:/
November 19, 2006 9:00:14 PM

As some other guy said

I would recommend you get 512 of ram and a 6600GT AT LEAST
November 19, 2006 9:15:36 PM

With an FX 5200 u will get ~45 FPS in Far Cry (released in 2004). That is on the lowest resolution and detail-level. And thats with 512MB of RAM..

The graphics card is the MOST important part of ur PC.
Invest whatever u can into this, and another 256MB should be ur second task.
November 19, 2006 10:43:58 PM

Just to jump on the bandwagon here, I would invest in some ram and a ~$100 card to really be able to "play." IMO there is a difference in playing a game and just experiencing it on the lowest settings. :?
November 19, 2006 11:01:01 PM

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If you want to play HL2 only, get an ATI card. HL2 was designed on and basically for ATI, Nvidia's framrates for the money compared to it are much much lower unless you buy like a 7950 GX2 or an 8800. Like they said, X1300.


Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought Nvidia performed better in Half Life 2?
November 19, 2006 11:13:53 PM

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For me, I dislike my bfg 7800 agp card for hl2dm. I lag on the big maps:(  As far as I am concerned agp is dead, any mobo w/out pcie, I don't want it.

hl2dm ftw!!

3200 xp
2gig of ram
7800 bfg gc


Thats cause of athlon xp, its much slower than a64 or newer proc's. A big map needs a lot of physics/objects calculated and ur cpu may be the bottleneck..
November 19, 2006 11:44:45 PM

Quote:
I'm a casual first-person gamer and on a tight budget. I just wanna play Half Life 2 without buying those fancy and expensive videocards.

I remember from previous reviews (years ago) that although FX5200s have poor showing in playing latest games at the time (when Half Life2 was launched), I'm nevertheless interested just to get on with it.

My question is, will FX5200 do the job? Doesn't matter if it plays at lowest fps or res. :roll:

My specs:
P4 2ghz
Asrock P4i45GV (integrated sound & video)
Maxtor 40gb 72krpm
256 mb RAM DDR266
XP Home (no SP1 updates)
Creative 5.1 speakers
AOC 17" CRT flat


No, its impossible to play.

I tested in a C2d platform with the 64 and 128 bit versions
November 20, 2006 12:32:43 AM

Quote:
I'm a casual first-person gamer and on a tight budget. I just wanna play Half Life 2 without buying those fancy and expensive videocards.

I remember from previous reviews (years ago) that although FX5200s have poor showing in playing latest games at the time (when Half Life2 was launched), I'm nevertheless interested just to get on with it.

My question is, will FX5200 do the job? Doesn't matter if it plays at lowest fps or res. :roll:

My specs:
P4 2ghz
Asrock P4i45GV (integrated sound & video)
Maxtor 40gb 72krpm
256 mb RAM DDR266
XP Home (no SP1 updates)
Creative 5.1 speakers
AOC 17" CRT flat

The FX5200 on the lowest settings can perform about 30fps. That said you'll need to set in console fps_max to about 25-30 to smooth out the fps. On my old c1.8 with a FX5500 I get around 35fps but at times it drops below 15fps unless I use the "fps_max 25" to allow my computer to keep a good connection. More cpu time for the connection, a good protection against lag hacks, and it skips frames allowing old GPU's to keep up. I would suggest you use fps_max on any GPU but only below the avarage fps of that GPU.

The FX5200 isnt a good deal for any slot. What slots are available on your mobo and whats the watts of your PSU? If your mobo is PCI only the X1300 is available but shop around because this one has a high price. Note also the X1300 requires a 300watt PSU.
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?pfp=BR...
If you have an AGP slot and really want something cheap that should perform well try the 9600XT for $49.98. It will beat the socks of the FX5200. The 9600XT requires a 300watt PSU.
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?pfp=BR...
I would suggest something with a little more power and the X800pro for $99.98 is a killer deal.
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?pfp=BR...
November 20, 2006 1:07:59 AM

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usually isn't the best idea... just skip going out for lunch for a week... add that money to the pile and get something a little bigger... a little better

you will be much happier and hey you might even shed a couple lbs.

:wink:
I've been skipping lunch for 14 months, lost 45 lbs (from 189) and have saved enough for 2 8800s.

Now then, the reason I started skipping lunch is the Cintiq, which I only need two more months to reach, so it's taking all my force of will and then some not to go crazy and spend it with nVidia instead...
November 20, 2006 1:11:52 AM

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the reason I started skipping lunch is the Cintiq


???

what is this cintiq?

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EDIT
OOOOH

i heart google

sounds pretty awesome... and looks pretty expensive. WOW.
November 20, 2006 1:12:20 AM

i can play half life 2, on 1280x1024 on fx5600 256mb, with shaders on high and reflect world, and textures on medium, and models on high, yes its playable, and its smooth, although its like 20fps-ish.

my system is p4 2.6ghz,512mb ram.fx5600 256mb, yeah i can play it with eye candy but , this system would stuggle with everything on max.
November 20, 2006 1:12:52 AM

u guys are totally underestimating fx 5200. i have a fx 5500( same thing but 25mhzhigher clock) but i have it for pci. i play cs:S at medium settings dx9 1024x768. and it is a crazy oc'er. im talking 350/515 from 275/350. and if u really want something good for pci, get a diamond x1300 256 mb. dont get the visiontek, only 64bit bus.

EDit: he has the wierdest mobo. i checked it out, u need to buy like some riser card or something to get an agp4x/8x connection. only pci slots. something like my crippled sony pc (asus custom made kirin-v mobo)
November 20, 2006 1:42:44 AM

My old PC runs Half-life2 fine. here's whats in it.

P4 - 1.8 ghz
512 Ram
FX5200

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November 20, 2006 2:34:14 AM

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If you want to play HL2 only, get an ATI card. HL2 was designed on and basically for ATI, Nvidia's framrates for the money compared to it are much much lower unless you buy like a 7950 GX2 or an 8800. Like they said, X1300.


Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought Nvidia performed better in Half Life 2?

I'll have to say no, ATI performs better on source games, according to THG.
November 20, 2006 2:40:23 AM

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For me, I dislike my bfg 7800 agp card for hl2dm. I lag on the big maps:(  As far as I am concerned agp is dead, any mobo w/out pcie, I don't want it.

hl2dm ftw!!

3200 xp
2gig of ram
7800 bfg gc


Thats cause of athlon xp, its much slower than a64 or newer proc's. A big map needs a lot of physics/objects calculated and ur cpu may be the bottleneck..

Yes, it is true, i have a 400 fsb. sucks a lot. I'd like to know the average and minimum fps in hl2dm to a 754 socket vs 462 socket. I theorize it's more of an agp or fsb problem. probably both really.
November 25, 2006 3:35:24 PM

Use '-DXLEVEL 70', '-DXLEVEL 80' or '-DXLEVEL 81' in the 'advanced parameters' section of each game profile.

Add it, load game, then configure it.

Remove the -DXLEVEL 70 before reloading the game (it resets all video defaults, but enforces a DirectX 7.0 code path for GPU).

Sure the FX-5200 can run DX 8.1 code path, but it runs like crap, and you can't 'change' Hardware DirectX Version within the game itself, only as a parameter passed to the game .EXE by Steam.

I use this on my laptop (Radeon Xpress 200 Mobile edition) as it supports DirectX 9.0b code path, just it runs twice as fast using the DX 7.0 path and looks 'almost as good' (esp at 25+ fps, vs under 15 fps using defaults).

It is possible Valve corrected this as I reported it to them like... over a year ago... and it is under 1 page of code changes.

The problem is, the card hardware supports a DirectX 9.0 code path, but it is only powerful enough to use a DirectX 8.1 path in Half-Life 2, and they didn't set up 'profiles' for each card, just feature set masks.

Doing this will double your frame rate during heavy combat on cheaper video cards (GeForce FX 5600 or older), esp on older PCs.
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