Whos idea is this?!!??
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theholylancer
March 8, 2010 6:27:22 PM
Ok who is the guy that comes up with the recent email campaign for top 500 users???
it's a freaking ad that gives you:
$5.00 for orders $25 or more.
$10.00 for orders $40 or more.
discount at a store that not many of us uses, if it was newegg then i would at least say oh it's a tech site and us-centric, but noooo it's some random vanity shop to t-shirts......
and it says I'm getting this because i'm among the top 500 people active on the site????
wtf is this, this is advertisement, not a reward for being on here, period.
if you want to have rewards, give us free t-shirts off that site, or give us good discounts off the egg or something as that is at least wholly tech related and not useless junk that we can't use to get more performance.
if this was a targeted advertising campaign, then it has missed it's marks by a mile and if it was meant as a reward for being in the top 500 active posters in THG forums, then wtf, can I opt out of these things until they get their acts together and offer real benefits (how about a ad free site of toms and the forums? with NO full site advertisements that adblockers have issues with?)
who comes up with this? while I do think that there is some sort of genuine thought behind it because of the fact that it comes from a editor and a well known one at that, but I question the motive of such an act.
I don't know anyone whom would want to spend money to save money on useless things that is completely unrelated to the area where they would purchase from.
it's a freaking ad that gives you:
$5.00 for orders $25 or more.
$10.00 for orders $40 or more.
discount at a store that not many of us uses, if it was newegg then i would at least say oh it's a tech site and us-centric, but noooo it's some random vanity shop to t-shirts......
and it says I'm getting this because i'm among the top 500 people active on the site????
wtf is this, this is advertisement, not a reward for being on here, period.
if you want to have rewards, give us free t-shirts off that site, or give us good discounts off the egg or something as that is at least wholly tech related and not useless junk that we can't use to get more performance.
if this was a targeted advertising campaign, then it has missed it's marks by a mile and if it was meant as a reward for being in the top 500 active posters in THG forums, then wtf, can I opt out of these things until they get their acts together and offer real benefits (how about a ad free site of toms and the forums? with NO full site advertisements that adblockers have issues with?)
who comes up with this? while I do think that there is some sort of genuine thought behind it because of the fact that it comes from a editor and a well known one at that, but I question the motive of such an act.
I don't know anyone whom would want to spend money to save money on useless things that is completely unrelated to the area where they would purchase from.
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strangestranger
March 8, 2010 7:27:44 PM
theholylancer
March 8, 2010 7:37:25 PM
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djcoolmasterx
March 8, 2010 8:28:21 PM
Shadow703793
March 8, 2010 10:19:39 PM
Anonymous
March 9, 2010 7:51:00 AM
WingDing
March 9, 2010 10:43:55 AM
strangestranger
March 9, 2010 11:31:04 AM
WingDing
March 9, 2010 11:40:25 AM
strangestranger
March 9, 2010 11:42:27 AM
theholylancer
March 9, 2010 11:46:22 AM
theholylancer
March 9, 2010 11:47:02 AM
WingDing
March 9, 2010 12:22:45 PM
theholylancer
March 9, 2010 12:56:47 PM
strangestranger
March 9, 2010 1:42:52 PM
theholylancer
March 9, 2010 1:51:23 PM
hmm Monthly rank (March): 3172 out of 350075 (70 points)
Global rank: 132 out of 350076 (4683 points)
how do they calculated this and 1 less ppl???
jeeze shouldn't active mean on this month or maybe past 6 months?
by that standard i would not be any where near the top 500 since I stopped helping when i realized that most of it is the same ***, and we can't just say RTFM and point to a sticky and close the thread or vote close the thread.
Global rank: 132 out of 350076 (4683 points)
how do they calculated this and 1 less ppl???
jeeze shouldn't active mean on this month or maybe past 6 months?
by that standard i would not be any where near the top 500 since I stopped helping when i realized that most of it is the same ***, and we can't just say RTFM and point to a sticky and close the thread or vote close the thread.
rockyjohn
March 9, 2010 2:02:33 PM
Anonymous
March 9, 2010 3:58:24 PM
strangestranger
March 9, 2010 4:18:23 PM
WingDing
March 9, 2010 4:37:37 PM
tuannguyen
March 9, 2010 5:12:04 PM
I regularly look through ThinkGeek for fun gadgets and neat toys, and we thought it'd be a fun little idea to spread around to just our top 500 users.
It's not an ad. It's something we thought of doing simply for fun. I figured a lot of people are into fun little toys like what ThinkGeek offers. It's not something meant to be serious. If you like anything that they sell, feel free to use the promo code I emailed.
If not, just pass on it.
We don't spam people, and so I even used and included my real information in the email I sent out as an indication of such.
@theholylancer: Why are you so negative about it? Making all these assumptions that I'm trying to pick pocket your wallet for money, throw advertising your way or some other outrageous thing?
Tom's Hardware gets nothing out of spamming people with an ad. Which is why I had ThinkGeek customize a promo code just for us. We don't get a cut of any sale they sell.
People so often assume that just because we publish something, or offer something, that there must be some sort of hidden deal or cut that we get from doing it. We don't. If it's an ad, we point it out as an ad. If not, then it's not. See the content on our site that's labeled "Advertisement"? We're not trying to use slight of hand to trick you into giving us money.
Honestly, I just thought it was a cool thing to give away.
Sorry you took such a big offense to it.
All we wanted to do was offer a little something to say thanks...
/ Tuan
Tuan Nguyen
Director, News Operations
tuannguyen@bestofmedia.com
It's not an ad. It's something we thought of doing simply for fun. I figured a lot of people are into fun little toys like what ThinkGeek offers. It's not something meant to be serious. If you like anything that they sell, feel free to use the promo code I emailed.
If not, just pass on it.
We don't spam people, and so I even used and included my real information in the email I sent out as an indication of such.
@theholylancer: Why are you so negative about it? Making all these assumptions that I'm trying to pick pocket your wallet for money, throw advertising your way or some other outrageous thing?
Tom's Hardware gets nothing out of spamming people with an ad. Which is why I had ThinkGeek customize a promo code just for us. We don't get a cut of any sale they sell.
People so often assume that just because we publish something, or offer something, that there must be some sort of hidden deal or cut that we get from doing it. We don't. If it's an ad, we point it out as an ad. If not, then it's not. See the content on our site that's labeled "Advertisement"? We're not trying to use slight of hand to trick you into giving us money.
Honestly, I just thought it was a cool thing to give away.
Sorry you took such a big offense to it.
All we wanted to do was offer a little something to say thanks...
/ Tuan
Tuan Nguyen
Director, News Operations
tuannguyen@bestofmedia.com
audiovoodoo
March 9, 2010 5:25:23 PM
theholylancer
March 9, 2010 5:41:25 PM
tuannguyen said:
I regularly look through ThinkGeek for fun gadgets and neat toys, and we thought it'd be a fun little idea to spread around to just our top 500 users.It's not an ad. It's something we thought of doing simply for fun. I figured a lot of people are into fun little toys like what ThinkGeek offers. It's not something meant to be serious. If you like anything that they sell, feel free to use the promo code I emailed.
If not, just pass on it.
We don't spam people, and so I even used and included my real information in the email I sent out as an indication of such.
@theholylancer: Why are you so negative about it? Making all these assumptions that I'm trying to pick pocket your wallet for money, throw advertising your way or some other outrageous thing?
Tom's Hardware gets nothing out of spamming people with an ad. Which is why I had ThinkGeek customize a promo code just for us. We don't get a cut of any sale they sell.
People so often assume that just because we publish something, or offer something, that there must be some sort of hidden deal or cut that we get from doing it. We don't. If it's an ad, we point it out as an ad. If not, then it's not. See the content on our site that's labeled "Advertisement"? We're not trying to use slight of hand to trick you into giving us money.
Honestly, I just thought it was a cool thing to give away.
Sorry you took such a big offense to it.
All we wanted to do was offer a little something to say thanks...
/ Tuan
Tuan Nguyen
Director, News Operations
tuannguyen@bestofmedia.com
Err wow so it was legit?!
Ops and I apologize for my quick overreaction, but you gota admit, it looked incredibly fishy when sites like ECA and other places offered "discount codes" and what nots and lots of online wow gold selling sites seems to favorite them as well... but I guess I shoulda have realized it was legit since it was free and not paid for lol......
Yeah too hasty on this one...
So a discount on a site that you personally don't find appealing (thinkgeek) = Not a Reward
But a discount on a site that you do find appealing (newegg) = Reward
That's a scoash egocentrist, and I'm confident you don't speak for the silent majority here. If you don't particularly enjoy the things ThinkGeek has, just don't use the discount. Personally, I love the nifty little stuff they've got and I fully intend to appropriate one shot of this code for myself. It does make me wish I had waited before buying a handful of those old NES Super Mario wall decals, though I do have a rather sweet, retro 8-bit home office to thank for it. I'm considering stocking up on Companion Cube plushies for Xmas, but I'm torn.
T-shirts? We can probably do t-shirts. Newegg? Sure, maybe we can wrangle something with them too. But don't poo-poo ThinkGeek just because they don't sell anything that will make your rig faster.
Joe Pishgar
Community Manager
But a discount on a site that you do find appealing (newegg) = Reward
That's a scoash egocentrist, and I'm confident you don't speak for the silent majority here. If you don't particularly enjoy the things ThinkGeek has, just don't use the discount. Personally, I love the nifty little stuff they've got and I fully intend to appropriate one shot of this code for myself. It does make me wish I had waited before buying a handful of those old NES Super Mario wall decals, though I do have a rather sweet, retro 8-bit home office to thank for it. I'm considering stocking up on Companion Cube plushies for Xmas, but I'm torn.
T-shirts? We can probably do t-shirts. Newegg? Sure, maybe we can wrangle something with them too. But don't poo-poo ThinkGeek just because they don't sell anything that will make your rig faster.
Joe Pishgar
Community Manager
tuannguyen
March 9, 2010 6:07:19 PM
rockyjohn said:
Do you really think "Top 500" means anything? They just list that with everyone. How sad. Advertising half truths are bad enough - but a site that uses bold face lies is pathetic.What in the world?
I honestly only sent that to 500 of the most active users on the forum.
You have no idea what actually occured and you're stating as if it were a fact that I somehow blatantly lied in my email, that "500" was something fictional that I wrote to trick people into believing they were special?
For the record, I contacted ThinkGeek asking them if they could generate a promo code that I could send to our most active members as a "thank you," for creating our community what it is today.
For the record:
They didn't pay for an "ad." They didn't want an "ad." I never even asked them if they wanted to advertise. They're not paying us a cent, we're not paying them a cent.
My gosh...
/ Tuan
tuannguyen
March 9, 2010 6:10:56 PM
Quote:
I just got an email from Culver City saying that I'm taking this too seriously. I thought the thing was meant to be an incentive - it's just marketing.
Best Of seem quite inspired when it comes to annoying the regulars.
Yes, you got that email from me.
Honestly, it's the first email of its kinda with the most honest, genuine, and no-attached-hidden-fees-money-stealing-trickery-no-spam thank you offer.
Like I said in the email, sorry such a thing annoyed you so badly, even though your first email said: "Fabulous"
/ Tuan
theholylancer
March 9, 2010 6:56:58 PM
jpishgar said:
So a discount on a site that you personally don't find appealing (thinkgeek) = Not a RewardBut a discount on a site that you do find appealing (newegg) = Reward
That's a scoash egocentrist, and I'm confident you don't speak for the silent majority here. If you don't particularly enjoy the things ThinkGeek has, just don't use the discount. Personally, I love the nifty little stuff they've got and I fully intend to appropriate one shot of this code for myself. It does make me wish I had waited before buying a handful of those old NES Super Mario wall decals, though I do have a rather sweet, retro 8-bit home office to thank for it. I'm considering stocking up on Companion Cube plushies for Xmas, but I'm torn.
T-shirts? We can probably do t-shirts. Newegg? Sure, maybe we can wrangle something with them too. But don't poo-poo ThinkGeek just because they don't sell anything that will make your rig faster.
Joe Pishgar
Community Manager
well it's just to that me, i come to toms for the hardware / performance and less about the fun things (I go to digg for random fun and what nots, which acts like a giant filter for 4chan to find the good stuff, and relinks the best of reddit and what not), and when I saw this I immediately think O.o something is wrong and did someone jumped somewhere?
I honestly didn't think it was real, and since the contests that I've entered for SBM and what nots are all hardware related, it just seems out of place for toms, esp since every newsletter that i see included something along the lines of here to unsub to this mailing list type of deal.
think of it as a giant alarm setting off when the amount of technical detail drops below a certain threshhold for toms, and by same account, if someone from digg had emailed me about TSMC's 40 nm production line and the via issues that NV was unable to fix before fermi, I would do the same thing there and ask did someone hacked the accts or did digg partake in some sort of anti-NV campaign or something like that (even if it was gounded in fact, but how many of those fw:fw:fw:fw:fw: emails you get that sounds really technically competent but is pure hogwash?) , but now that you guys all said it's okay, better un spam block that email addy...
now if you guys do have ncix or canadacomputer or newegg or tigerdirect or what nots, I would love to get that! Or warn us lol, prepare at least my mind for something that is off the beaten track for you guy's portfolio.
rockyjohn
March 9, 2010 7:11:20 PM
tuannguyen said:
What in the world?I honestly only sent that to 500 of the most active users on the forum.
You have no idea what actually occured and you're stating as if it were a fact that I somehow blatantly lied in my email, that "500" was something fictional that I wrote to trick people into believing they were special?
/ Tuan
Why am I skeptical? Maybe becuase today I started getting notes from this website saying I had won $1,000. The notes were the same as I received at another site yesterday -exactly the same. But to try to claim the $1,000 they said you had really won, the start taking you through a whole bunch of pages, each one asking for just a little more information and putting cookies on the system. After the 6th page I quit as it was an obvious scam.
Then today on THG I get hit with the same promise of winnning $1,000 - three times while just trying to read one news article. Ya sure it is all true.
WingDing
March 9, 2010 7:20:14 PM
strangestranger
March 9, 2010 7:45:41 PM
If it means anything, very few of those 500 that it was sent to have popped in to complain so it isn't all bad.
One question if I may. This top 500. How was it judged. If it is from the all time, then even with the borked points system you may end u e-mailing people who are no longer active or is it most active over recent months?
I mean look what sort of filth have already appeared in this thread.
One question if I may. This top 500. How was it judged. If it is from the all time, then even with the borked points system you may end u e-mailing people who are no longer active or is it most active over recent months?
I mean look what sort of filth have already appeared in this thread.
tuannguyen
March 9, 2010 8:11:49 PM
rockyjohn said:
Why am I skeptical? Maybe becuase today I started getting notes from this website saying I had won $1,000. The notes were the same as I received at another site yesterday -exactly the same. But to try to claim the $1,000 they said you had really won, the start taking you through a whole bunch of pages, each one asking for just a little more information and putting cookies on the system. After the 6th page I quit as it was an obvious scam. Then today on THG I get hit with the same promise of winnning $1,000 - three times while just trying to read one news article. Ya sure it is all true.
Really? You started getting the promise from us that you'll win $1,000? Show me.
You have my email address. I also stated it here in my first response.
Show me some screenshots of where exactly you see this, what page, what article, because I'm on this site all day long and have never seen such a thing.
Sorry you're skeptical, but that's not really the issue I'm calling you out on.
The fact is, you had no basis or fact to call me a liar and that the indicated 500 receipients was something I made up to trick people. What I stated was true and if you can't wrap that around your head simply because of your own bad experience, then whatever.
Fact of the matter is, I could have written "top 10" if I was bent on lying to make it sound even more spectacular. There's no point in fixing it on such a "large" number, relatively speaking, if I wanted to lie.
The fact that you spent time all the way to the 6th page for those obvious ads, somewhere on the internet, tells me the problem was somewhere between the chair and the keyboard.
Don't go insulting me personally because of your own bad experience.
There are some bad drivers on the road so that must make everyone who's driving a crappy driver. Good grief.
/ Tuan
tuannguyen
March 9, 2010 8:13:44 PM
strangestranger said:
If it means anything, very few of those 500 that it was sent to have popped in to complain so it isn't all bad.One question if I may. This top 500. How was it judged. If it is from the all time, then even with the borked points system you may end u e-mailing people who are no longer active or is it most active over recent months?
I mean look what sort of filth have already appeared in this thread.
I just simply asked our community management team to see if they were able to pull the 500 users which had the highest post count. This isn't the more refined way, since some of the results could be complete trolls, but it was the quickest.
/ Tuan
Shadow703793
March 9, 2010 9:23:59 PM
tuannguyen
March 9, 2010 9:52:39 PM
If you were honestly concerned about the legitimacy you could have sent a PM to one of the staff here. I received one from a member who has not posted in this thread but did get the email. It took me less than a minute to determine the legitimacy as I have Tuan on Skype. But I also know Tuan's massive signature so I was fairly sure it was real anyway
strangestranger
March 9, 2010 10:27:54 PM
Anonymous
March 10, 2010 1:58:39 AM
" Like I said in the email, sorry such a thing annoyed you so badly, even though your first email said: "Fabulous"
No offence Tuan but the "fabulous" was meant ironically.
I'm sorry if your, doubtless, sincere offer has been so dumped on but maybe regulars are still touchy since the re-scoring exercise before Xmas.
And, honestly, right now with economies either side of the Atlantic in a mess, who needs novelty products ? For the amount of work some people put in on the site for free but for the profit of the site owners, something a little more substantial would be in order.
No offence Tuan but the "fabulous" was meant ironically.
I'm sorry if your, doubtless, sincere offer has been so dumped on but maybe regulars are still touchy since the re-scoring exercise before Xmas.
And, honestly, right now with economies either side of the Atlantic in a mess, who needs novelty products ? For the amount of work some people put in on the site for free but for the profit of the site owners, something a little more substantial would be in order.
Tuan and Joe ... got my e-mail ... there is always a delay getting things into Western Australia.
The guys at the border inspect everything for fruitfly .... must have been a zillion e-mails banked up there.
Iv'e told Darryl and Darryl (the fruitfly inspectors) that it is highly unlikely that any eggs are going to get through sitting on an e-mail ... but they won't listen to me.
From there its ol Ed with his Donkey the rest of the way.
Then the post office prints them and they come in the mail.
As you can see the transport system is pretty efficient but Christmas is a biatch.
I am not even going to go into how we handle SMS texts because you don't want to know how many people we have working those typewriters and running around in cabs looking for the right guy with mobile phone.
Anyway, Iv'e booked holylancer in for a couple of shrink sessions with Wingy, and Iv'e forwarded the referral notes by Donkey yesterday.
If you don't give me best answer for this post I am going to engage in self harm - a whiskey binge.
Be it on your heads !!
The guys at the border inspect everything for fruitfly .... must have been a zillion e-mails banked up there.
Iv'e told Darryl and Darryl (the fruitfly inspectors) that it is highly unlikely that any eggs are going to get through sitting on an e-mail ... but they won't listen to me.
From there its ol Ed with his Donkey the rest of the way.
Then the post office prints them and they come in the mail.
As you can see the transport system is pretty efficient but Christmas is a biatch.
I am not even going to go into how we handle SMS texts because you don't want to know how many people we have working those typewriters and running around in cabs looking for the right guy with mobile phone.
Anyway, Iv'e booked holylancer in for a couple of shrink sessions with Wingy, and Iv'e forwarded the referral notes by Donkey yesterday.
If you don't give me best answer for this post I am going to engage in self harm - a whiskey binge.
Be it on your heads !!
strangestranger
March 10, 2010 12:16:44 PM
theholylancer
March 10, 2010 12:28:41 PM
theholylancer
March 10, 2010 12:29:43 PM
theholylancer
March 29, 2010 2:07:22 PM
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