Whats wrong with 8800 GTS benchmarks?

I have been looking at every benchmark made of the new 8800's.
Somehow the specs of the cards dont seem to be on par with the performance in these benchmarks. Some benchmarks have the 8800's really high, where they should be, but most have them being compared to 7950 GX2's etc.

The issues:

1. The X1950XTX getting higher frame rates than the 8800 GTS.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/391/21/
There is NO reason that the 8800 GTS should EVER have lower frame rates than the X1950XT. Each and every one of it's specs are higher than those of the X1950XT, some by far.
http://www.gpureview.com/show_card [...] &card2=442


2. The 7950 GX2 seems to be either the same, or better than the 8800 GTS. The 8800 GTX is fine though, scoring much higher than both.
Now u could look at the 7950 GX2 and say "it's better because it has more texture fill rate, and the shaders on the 8800 GTS are not being used". But then u have this problem - the only thing that the 8800 GTX has over the 8800 GTS is shaders.. and a little memory bandwidth and pixel fill.
So then, how can the 7950 GX2 be better than the 8800 GTS, but not better than the 8800 GTX?

Comparison:
8800 GTS - 8800 GTX
http://www.gpureview.com/show_card [...] &card2=474
8800 GTS - 7950 GX2
http://www.gpureview.com/show_card [...] &card2=432

Benchmarks:
http://techreport.com/reviews/2006 [...] ex.x?pg=12
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/ [...] index.html
http://www.driverheaven.net/review [...] 0/fear.php
http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.aspx
http://www.driverheaven.net/review [...] flight.php
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/ [...] gts/8.html
etc.

What do u think?

Don't forget about the 8800 series distinct advantage...DX10.

It dosent work that way with me. It takes me an hour to decide what ill have for breakfst. Right now though, i dont know if i should get this card for 425$ or the X1900 CrossFire for 325$.

Thats a good review too.

Why not? Thats a good price. The X1900XT 512MB should cost around 300$. The X1950XT 256MB still costs 275$, so it makes sence for the X1900XT 256MB to cost 250$, just like it did before it went extinct. poor X1900XT, it was too beautiful for this world.. Seriously, it was so beautiful that ppl just bought all of them!

Why not? Thats a good price. The X1900XT 512MB should cost around 300$. The X1950XT 256MB still costs 275$, so it makes sence for the X1900XT 256MB to cost 250$, just like it did before it went extinct. poor X1900XT, it was too beautiful for this world.. Seriously, it was so beautiful that ppl just bought all of them!

OK. $325 is not 300 or 275 or 250 is it? I was talking about the X1900XT 256MB version anyway. Weren't you?

Nooooooo, you said the "B" word!

The X1950XTX only performed faster in Call of Duty 2 at resolutions lower than 1600x1200, and this was likely from a Driver/software issue.

We're biased because we don't recommend the older, overpriced, and under performing hardware? How about you get an FX62 to go with your overpriced X1950XTX.

Please get the X1950XTX and just stop posting.

How come? Why not X1900XT 256mb? Or maybe something like X1950Pro, or X1950XT 256mb. Or even the 7900GTOs or 7950GTs?

There are much more cards than just a X1950XT.

I still think you should go for a 8800GTS.

Sorry to go right off topic here everyone, but Cleeve, since your in my womans pants and were already talking about GFX, what's the story behind the pic in your avatar?

If you think you know the answer then why ask! Don't be freaking arrogant with line like: I bet you do. We told you a 100 times are opinion, just choose a god damn card and stop being arrogant!

Look who's talking, we tell you to keep it in one post cuz it's annoying and you tell us we don't own the forum.

So don't try to tell kicky28 what to do. At least he is funny!

I will officially hijack this thread just for that!

Hey prozac I thought it was a Vipde in you pic, kinda surprise how close the intrepid would look like!....


NOW PICK A CARD! and leave our biased view alone.

Btw, you stayed polite so you can go off topic any day!

I think that this avatar is to show that the 9500 was the exact same as the 9700Pro.

The 9500 could be modded(?with a bios flashh?or another easy mod) to a 9700Pro. that was the sweetest deal ever and people like Wusy liked it a lot =).

Cleeve will tell you the whole exact story. Video Cards are not my specialty and my memory is not always perfect. (damn alcohool and drugs! )

This ass-hat is infecting other forums I visit, and he's not even changing his post's....just cutting and pasting them.

Lame

http://forums.techpowerup.com/show [...] post193244

My avatar shows the simple bridge you have to solder to turn a 256-bit 9500 into a 9700 PRO. W00t!