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Is AMD X2 3600/3800 AM2 good enough for X1950Pro?

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November 24, 2006 7:06:37 AM

Hi Guys, I am new here and I need help :( 

I live in New Zealand, so the price I can get might vary with US prices.

X2 3800 AM2 costs 258 NZD
X2 3600 AM2 conts 201 NZD
Asus M2N-32-SLi Deluxe costs 389 NZD

E6300 costs 300 NZD
E6400 costs 364 NZD
Asustek P5W DH Deluxe Intel 975X costs 465 NZD

I just want a CPU/mobo combo thats good enough to fully explore the potential of X1950pro.
I mostly play racing games and some RPG or real-time strategy games.
My preferred resolution is 1280X1024 with AA and AF at max.

One other question, my current PC is a XP-1700, which graphics card would bring the optimum(perf-bottle neck at the graphics card) performance?

Cheers guys!
November 24, 2006 7:26:01 AM

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Hi Guys, I am new here and I need help :( 

I live in New Zealand, so the price I can get might vary with US prices.

X2 3800 AM2 costs 258 NZD
X2 3600 AM2 conts 201 NZD
Asus M2N-32-SLi Deluxe costs 389 NZD

E6300 costs 300 NZD
E6400 costs 364 NZD
Asustek P5W DH Deluxe Intel 975X costs 465 NZD

I just want a CPU/mobo combo thats good enough to fully explore the potential of X1950pro.
I mostly play racing games and some RPG or real-time strategy games.
My preferred resolution is 1280X1024 with AA and AF at max.

One other question, my current PC is a XP-1700, which graphics card would bring the optimum(perf-bottle neck at the graphics card) performance?

Cheers guys!
I would have to say that, if you can at all stretch your budget to afford the C2D(E6300) setup, that would be the best bet.

1.With AM2, not using DDR2-800 inflicts a fairly sizable performance hit, whereas with C2D, using DDR2-533 is not much slower than DDR2-800.

2. Look for a motherboard with the i965 chipset, as that will help offset the cost as well.

3. If you are into overclocking at all, the Intel setup will blow away the AMD setup(though DDR2-667-DD2-800 would be necessary for this).

As far as the XP1700, an X800GTO/6800GS(or 6600GT) would probably be all the CPU could feed...if that. Anything slower will likely not be any cheaper though. GL :) 
November 24, 2006 8:15:50 AM

I've just got a new S939 system with an X2 running at 4600+ speeds with an X1950 Pro, and it runs great. I don't know how much of a difference there would be with a 3600/3800.

I agree with 1Tanker however, if you are definitely going the DDR2 route then go for C2D - the cost is a little more for a good performance gain (especially in games). The only reason I stuck with an X2 was because I wanted to reuse my DDR RAM.
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November 24, 2006 8:24:15 AM

Cheers man!

BTW, if I OC my XP1700 to the 2500MHZ region, will it be able to cope with a more powerful graphic card? Eg 7600GT AGP

I am running at x11.5 with bus speed at 167MHz.
My Mobo is Asus A7v8x.
Which combo of multiplier * bus speed would you recommand?

Oh one more thing, what kind of temperature would be close to maximum? 70+C?
November 24, 2006 9:51:11 AM

Its pretty good enough.. actually its already fast

of course C2D is a lot better.. a lot of people here would sway you to buying one and I don't disagree with them

but since your asking if this is good enough..I presume you are on budget.. I tell you yeah it already is pretty good and it will give your money's worth
November 24, 2006 3:24:09 PM

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Cheers man!

BTW, if I OC my XP1700 to the 2500MHZ region, will it be able to cope with a more powerful graphic card? Eg 7600GT AGP

I am running at x11.5 with bus speed at 167MHz.
My Mobo is Asus A7v8x.
Which combo of multiplier * bus speed would you recommand?

Oh one more thing, what kind of temperature would be close to maximum? 70+C?
OC'ed to 2.5GHz, the XP-1700 should work well with the 7600GT,but, it'll take some excellant cooling to get to 2.5GHz. It's widely known that some XP-1700's were massive overclockers, but not all are capable of those high clocks. GL :) 
November 24, 2006 3:30:31 PM

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OC'ed to 2.5GHz, the XP-1700 should work well with the 7600GT,but, it'll take some excellant cooling to get to 2.5GHz. It's widely known that some XP-1700's were massive overclockers, but not all are capable of those high clocks. GL :) 


I think the K7 CPUs that can get up to 2.5GHz are AthlonXP-M 2500+ :wink:
November 24, 2006 3:43:26 PM

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OC'ed to 2.5GHz, the XP-1700 should work well with the 7600GT,but, it'll take some excellant cooling to get to 2.5GHz. It's widely known that some XP-1700's were massive overclockers, but not all are capable of those high clocks. GL :) 


I think the K7 CPUs that can get up to 2.5GHz are AthlonXP-M 2500+ :wink:Yeah, many AthlonXP-M 2500+ got to the 2.7-2.8GHz range. XP-1700's were very overclockable as well, but you would likely need a TEC/Phase-change to get over 2.2-2.3GHz. Certain steppings were phenominal, and if you look on the ORB, or XSystem's, the record for an XP-1700 is over 3GHz. 8O
November 24, 2006 3:57:02 PM

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OC'ed to 2.5GHz, the XP-1700 should work well with the 7600GT,but, it'll take some excellant cooling to get to 2.5GHz. It's widely known that some XP-1700's were massive overclockers, but not all are capable of those high clocks. GL :) 


I think the K7 CPUs that can get up to 2.5GHz are AthlonXP-M 2500+ :wink:Yeah, many AthlonXP-M 2500+ got to the 2.7-2.8GHz range. XP-1700's were very overclockable as well, but you would likely need a TEC/Phase-change to get over 2.2-2.3GHz. Certain steppings were phenominal, and if you look on the ORB, or XSystem's, the record for an XP-1700 is over 3GHz. 8O

3GHz 8O
One of the best single core 8O
November 24, 2006 4:08:46 PM

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OC'ed to 2.5GHz, the XP-1700 should work well with the 7600GT,but, it'll take some excellant cooling to get to 2.5GHz. It's widely known that some XP-1700's were massive overclockers, but not all are capable of those high clocks. GL :) 


I think the K7 CPUs that can get up to 2.5GHz are AthlonXP-M 2500+ :wink:Yeah, many AthlonXP-M 2500+ got to the 2.7-2.8GHz range. XP-1700's were very overclockable as well, but you would likely need a TEC/Phase-change to get over 2.2-2.3GHz. Certain steppings were phenominal, and if you look on the ORB, or XSystem's, the record for an XP-1700 is over 3GHz. 8O

3GHz 8O
One of the best single core 8OYeah...some top-notch overclocking went into that record. :wink:

XP-1700:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=44359

Source: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=59...
November 26, 2006 6:37:27 AM

The 1700+ has a lot of potential to overclock. I still use one in my home server/media PC.

Native CPU Speed: 1467 MHz @ 1.6v
Current CPU speed: 2208 Mhz @ 1.48v 100% stable (Cooled by a stock AMD Heatsink)



Under-volted for temperature control, yet still running overclocked by 50%.

The 1700+ may be old, but paired up with a couple of old 512MB PC3200 DIMMs and a formerly retired 9800 Pro, this thing makes for an incredible multimedia platform.
November 26, 2006 2:54:04 PM

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Hi Guys, I am new here and I need help :( 

I live in New Zealand, so the price I can get might vary with US prices.

X2 3800 AM2 costs 258 NZD
X2 3600 AM2 conts 201 NZD
Asus M2N-32-SLi Deluxe costs 389 NZD

E6300 costs 300 NZD
E6400 costs 364 NZD
Asustek P5W DH Deluxe Intel 975X costs 465 NZD

I just want a CPU/mobo combo thats good enough to fully explore the potential of X1950pro.
I mostly play racing games and some RPG or real-time strategy games.
My preferred resolution is 1280X1024 with AA and AF at max.

One other question, my current PC is a XP-1700, which graphics card would bring the optimum(perf-bottle neck at the graphics card) performance?

Cheers guys!


Since you have an ATI video card, a SLI motherboard won't be helpful here. get the M2N-e, and get the 4200+ X2. This could cost you about the same than the 3800+ and the m2n sli. Or, you could get the m2r32 (ATI chipset). I like them (personnaly) better than nvidia.

Depemd of your budget, but Core2 price an motherboard price seems higher than it should. Core 2 might be faster, but for this price, I don't think it worth it.
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