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lewbaseball07   11-24-2006 at 06:52:05 PM

what is the difference between a server and a desktop processor??

will a server processor work in a desktop motherboard?

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apt403   11-24-2006 at 06:55:07 PM
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um, lol?



i hope...

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qcmadness   11-24-2006 at 06:57:46 PM
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what is the difference between a server and a desktop processor??

will a server processor work in a desktop motherboard?



Maybe different socket, different memory requirement (for AMD multi-socket Opterons).

Some may work, some will not.

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lewbaseball07   11-24-2006 at 07:00:09 PM
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like whats the difference between the 3060 and the 6300???

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qcmadness   11-24-2006 at 07:01:53 PM
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like whats the difference between the 3060 and the 6300???



Basically they are the same, but branded with different names.

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lewbaseball07   11-24-2006 at 07:03:02 PM
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but the 3060 is a little better....how?...what makes a server chip, a server chip and a desktop chip, a desktop chip....

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apt403   11-24-2006 at 07:04:22 PM
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like whats the difference between the 3060 and the 6300???



almost nothing, the 3060 is just a conroe that has passed some tests by intel and they approved it for server use. so its suppost to be able to run 24/7/365 under like full load, they sometimes run cooler, and overclocker better, but there the same procs so it varies.

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dasickninja   11-24-2006 at 07:08:11 PM
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The difference is bigger than you think. Its the E6600 its related too :P

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lewbaseball07   11-24-2006 at 07:10:31 PM
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sht...so i should of got the server version of my 6300??

i saw one on newegg for like 20 bucks more..

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dasickninja   11-24-2006 at 07:12:37 PM
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Not unless you plan to do massive OCing. Otherwise its pretty much the same chip.

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lewbaseball07   11-24-2006 at 07:13:22 PM
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that blows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


iam planning to overclock to 4ghz+

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dasickninja   11-24-2006 at 07:19:17 PM
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Then the 3060 is probably the chip for you. But you might as well get a E6600 and use the money on RAM or cooling. You're certainly not hitting 4GHz on that DDR2 553. At least not stabily.

By the way everyone,

E6300 = 3040
E6400 = 3050
E6600 = 3060
E6700 = 3070

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lewbaseball07   11-24-2006 at 09:21:10 PM
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lol...i just ordered some super talent ddr2 800 should be fast as hell....4-3-4-8 timings

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Dante_Jose_Cuervo   11-24-2006 at 10:04:38 PM
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Difference, binning. Server processors are designed for stability and stability. If you OC, you'll like them. Now if you want to know more about how they perform, then check out DaSickNinja's thread about the 3060 and the E6600.

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slim142   11-24-2006 at 10:15:45 PM
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A Server processor is a server processor designed for servers which are normal pc's but require a lot more CPU power.

They have more cache and most of the times, faster FSB. They are more expensive for that and they will not bring any advantage to gaming since they are on the other side of the table and do not perform as well in games as a normal desktop cpu.

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Dante_Jose_Cuervo   11-24-2006 at 10:33:33 PM
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Actually, a standard dual-core xeon 3060 performs about the same as a Core 2 E6600 in terms of gaming, only it runs cooler.

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slim142   11-24-2006 at 10:43:13 PM
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Well Im not too much into server processors but I think the new line of clovertowns perform as good as a Conroe because they have the new Core architecture?

BTW, arent Xeons way more expensive than C2D's?

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Dante_Jose_Cuervo   11-24-2006 at 10:46:53 PM
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Xeons, nope. Actually when the 5160 and x6800 came out the 5160 was cheaper. The desktop xeons are about $10-$15 more than their Core 2 counterparts but they're incredibly stable when you OC them. Now as for DP and MP systems the reason they don't game well is because most games can only break up into 2 threads and those systems are designed for running like 4 or 8 or 16 threads at the same time. Clovertowns are just 2 Woodcrests on the same package just like kentsfield is to Conroe.

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slim142   11-24-2006 at 11:02:12 PM
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Well yeah you are right

but when I say they were slower I meant what you said when they are in Dual-CPU system because of the reason you said... ( too lazy to write it again)

But in single cpu conf, they still perform good. I didnt know they were incredibly stable when OC... :roll:

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Dante_Jose_Cuervo   11-24-2006 at 11:09:03 PM
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The reason they're stable when they're OCing is because server CPUs are designed to run in hotter climates so that little extra heat isn't really going to bother them as much.

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apt403   11-24-2006 at 11:13:58 PM
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The reason they're stable when they're OCing is because server CPUs are designed to run in hotter climates so that little extra heat isn't really going to bother them as much.



well if where talking about the 3000 line of xeons then the cpu's are really "designed" to run like that. only approved.

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dasickninja   11-24-2006 at 11:42:15 PM
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Yeppers. They are the chosen, the proud, the Xeon. And the 3XXX models are not MP able. You've got to look at the 5XXX and 7XXX series for that.

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apt403   11-24-2006 at 11:45:28 PM
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I wish intel would change there cpu-id thing though so they would be recognized as xeons instead of conroes. since your xeon bragging rights go out the window the second you open cpu-z.

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