x1300 pci

[desidude006]

So, I have the this old dell dimension 2350 laying around the house, and I am considering upgrading the video card. Currently it has intergrated graphics and only a pci slot. So, I was considering getting a x1300 for playing some games; a least at low resolutions. I was wondering if it can run battlefield 2 or 2142 at least playable fps.

 

[slim142]

CPU speed?
RAM?

 

[Zorg]

Dude, your killing me. First a quote from the ATI website:

"Native PCI Express x16 bus interface"

"AGP 8x configurations also supported with external bridge chip"


That's PCI Express not PCI.

I did a quick look for the Dell 2350 and determined that if you did have any graphics slot it would be AGP. If Dell (and all of the others for that matter) did the usual then you don't have an AGP slot because you bought the one with the on board graphics chip. This is because all of the large comp builders are cheap as hell and why I refuse to buy their crap anymore. In short, unless I am mistaken you are screwed. I doubt that there any PCI cards worth having. Save your dough and get a C2D. Good luck.

 

[GeneticWeapon]

Dude, your killing me.

If you dont know whats going on with the state of graphics cards then shut your freaking mouth and dont post in theis section.

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTE2OCwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

 

[GeneticWeapon]

To the original poster, this card is definitely your best choice, and I think [H] said it will play BF2, but the system they used as a test platform was an Athlon 64 system with a Gig of ram....so your mileage will definitely vary.

 

[Zorg]

I looked and you are spot on. My apologies. It certainly makes sense for one of these companies to clean up on all of the POS Dell's HP's etc. out there. It is good thet you indicated state of graphics cards and not state of the art. Based on the lackluster review and the $130.00 cost I still say save your money.
"The 64-bit memory bus and reduction in pixel shader processors and vertex processors severely cripple the performance of this GPU"

 

[desidude006]

Processor: Intel Pentium 4 @ 2.20GHz
Memory: 638MB RAM
Hard Drive: 41 GB
Video Card: Intel(R) 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller (onboard)
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2350/specs.htm#1107217 for more info.

btw it doesnt have a agp slot, all it has is a old pci slot. So yea, i considering getting this brand.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814103016

 

[Xazax310]

Dont buy a 100+ GFX card that will run like sh*t not to mention its PCI so its going to way slower than AGP, i then suggest you go out by an AGP mobo that fits your ram and cpu (so you dont have to change them) and then by an AGP 7300 because the 7300 kills the X1300 and it even kills the X1600.

For example
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813185078

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150198

that will run BF2142 quite nicely and handle many other games as well.

 

[slim142]

Well yeah with a 2.2Ghz northwood processor you are not going too far by upgrading the videocard only. I suggest do what Xazax said so you wont have to rebuilt the hold computer. In that case with an AGP board you would be able to get a 7600GT or 7800GS or X1950PRO.

Getting a PCI card will just be a waste of money since doesnt matter how fast the card is, PCI will slow its perfomance because is an old port of slow speed.

What I would recommend is to just get a $700 (or less) PC with Core 2 Duo which can be a great idea too.

 

[desidude006]

Well yeah with a 2.2Ghz northwood processor you are not going too far by upgrading the videocard only. I suggest do what Xazax said so you wont have to rebuilt the hold computer. In that case with an AGP board you would be able to get a 7600GT or 7800GS or X1950PRO.

Getting a PCI card will just be a waste of money since doesnt matter how fast the card is, PCI will slow its perfomance because is an old port of slow speed.

What I would recommend is to just get a $700 (or less) PC with Core 2 Duo which can be a great idea too.

Yes, I agree, I understand what you are saying. I am going to build a new pc in January/Febuary when more new dx10 cards are out. But for now for 2-3 months I was considering this.

 

[slim142]

Since thats what you are thinking about I recommend just wait couple more months with that. I know is hard but once you get your new system, you will be happy that u did not spend money on that slow-system you have now.

 

[gaot]

how about upgrading your motherboard into a 845 or 865, and buy yourself a second-hand 9800? it won't cost much, and i guess 9800 is better than a 1300 pci

 

[slim142]

wtf? the 9800 was never released for PCI.

where do you come from?

 

[Ryan_D]

how about upgrading your motherboard into a 845 or 865, and buy yourself a second-hand 9800? it won't cost much, and i guess 9800 is better than a 1300 pci

He said 'upgrade the motherboard, then buy a second-hand 9800.' I suggest you read the entire post before replying to it... :?

 

[gaot]

to buy a 845/865 mb WITH AN AGP SLOT, i mean

 

[Zorg]

He said upgrade the board to AGP, then use the 9800. I say hold on, and put the money on your new one. I know that we live in the age of instant gratification but money on PCI, or upgrading to an AGP board, is completely wasted, especially when you are going to replace it in 1-2 months. Spend your time assembling your parts list for the new one.

 

[desidude006]

Since thats what you are thinking about I recommend just wait couple more months with that. I know is hard but once you get your new system, you will be happy that u did not spend money on that slow-system you have now.

Meh, I see you what your saying. Its worth it in the end. But for now I can bearly play any games on this system, its going to be hard to wait.
Btw, this is the other system was considering building.
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/Rate-rig-ftopict209978.html

 

[slim142]

my mistake sorry

but still I wouldnt think upgrading that pc would be usefull...

 

[Zorg]

Nice system, It is certainly worth the wait, You might consider taking the $100.00 and possibly get a second drive for RAID0 and a DVD player for doing disc to disc copy, without first having to copy the DVD or CD to the HDD.

 

[gaot]

sorry, didn't notice you're going to build a new system. then such and such upgrade would not be worth the trouble