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tolemi   11-26-2006 at 09:41:23 AM

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Contrast R580 R600 graphics core

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ATi R600 photographs of the next generation DX10 graphics core exposure (1) According to the current information,ATi R600 will be the next generation DX10 graphics core Sale in January next year.This new ATi will be the same this time the core was laying low.Today was a mysterious R600 core users leaked out.According to the leaked information, R600 has 64 high-frequency and unified framework Shaders.ATi hope eventually to the higher frequency of 700MHz, R600 will use 80 nanometer design.R600 graphics chip will be the highest in the history of the 12-layer PCB AMD-ATi match.used a number of innovations in the entire R600 chip designThe most noteworthy thing is 512-bit Xiancun Distributed Power controller design and components.

Some joined the resistance around R600 GPU, R600 using 80nm manufacturing process.So, despite the more than 500 million transistors integrated, but as technology advances, the core area is not too great.

From the numbers, not Taiwan origin, manufacturing date for the first 32 weeks 06 years, which is around the end of August.It seems like a long time ago out of the R600, R600 and the exposure of this project has come from the earlier products.


R480 130 nanometer process used earlier, and the R580 using 90 nanometer technologyThe use of 80-nanometer technology R600, R600, although a substantial increase in the number of transistors.But do not raise the number of core dimension.This third-generation graphics core top, followed by increasing size, but the rate of increase is very small.This also gives the R480, R480 and R580 is the core area of 250 square millimeters,352 sq mm and 434.6 mm square.

In other words, if the R600 DirectX10.1 support.Then CrossFire will have a stronger performance, higher efficiency and greater breadth of the game.It is only a small amount of information released to DirectX10.1.If DirectX10.1 properties have more support,R600 will then complete the technical leading opponent.



http://www.hardspell.com/news/show [...] s_id=31823

So at least they revealed... :D

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strangestranger   11-26-2006 at 02:39:20 PM
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wondered how long until these were posted here. am not sure if yours is the first thread but regardless this is going to be a beast if specs are anything to go by. should be interesting to see if nvidia releases a g80 refresh which can compete.

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prozac26   11-26-2006 at 03:05:04 PM
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should be interesting to see if nvidia releases a g80 refresh which can compete.


They probably will, they have to to keep the competition going.

Anyway, nice pics.

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Bluefinger   11-26-2006 at 03:14:49 PM
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hmmm... if I were a hardcore ATI fanboy, I'll probably would have printed the pics of and rushed to the toilet...

In any case, very nice looking pics. Can't say I'm not a little excited since I've been waiting for quite a while for a fresh snippet of information. Guess my speculation was right, ATI was lying low so to tweak and test away at their new architecture to their hearts content.

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chuckshissle   11-26-2006 at 03:37:20 PM
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Nice and the release is the right time for Vista as well. Hopefully it doesn't get delayed.

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strangestranger   11-26-2006 at 05:55:49 PM
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amd has already said there will be trouble if ATI miss deadlines by too much. they have indicated that more than a few wrists will be slapeed unless they meet schedules. doesn't mean they want products released faster, just on time.

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melarcky   11-26-2006 at 07:01:12 PM
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I can't wait tell the ATI R600 chips come out because then NVIDIA will have there Refreshed series out and then the new midrange cards will come... its the only cards i could EVER afford.

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trinitron64   11-26-2006 at 07:34:09 PM
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just a note to the guy above me... the 3200 is a venice core with a native 512 of L2. San Diego has 1mbL2 and doesn't appear till 3700+.

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melarcky   11-26-2006 at 07:52:25 PM
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just a note to the guy above me... the 3200 is a venice core with a native 512 of L2. San Diego has 1mbL2 and doesn't appear till 3700+.


Yes I know but, take a look at THIS

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strangestranger   11-26-2006 at 08:01:27 PM
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lol, how many times have you had to answer that question.

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RyanMicah   11-26-2006 at 08:10:27 PM
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As Paris would say...

(to the post below mine, actually I was thinkin' "That's hawt" )

But yes, it is.

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darkstar782   11-26-2006 at 08:17:08 PM
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should be interesting to see if nvidia releases a g80 refresh which can compete.



For all we know now (with no benchmarks) the current G80 can compete.

64 complex shaders that can put out 1-4 operations at a time each @ 700MHz

128 simple shaders that can put out 1 operation at a time each @ 1.35GHz

They seem pretty closely matched to me just going by that. Only time will tell.

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strangestranger   11-26-2006 at 08:30:35 PM
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i wonder how much memory is going to play in it as the r600 supposedly has a true 512 bit bus and gddr4 memory of up to 2ghz i think i read somewhere so that might make a difference. either way interesting times ahead.

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melarcky   11-26-2006 at 08:41:04 PM
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lol, how many times have you had to answer that question.


So many times that even you have noticed haha... I was thinking about putting the LINK right next the the CPU so people wouldn't comment but i don't have any room left. as for VRAM I wouldn't be surprised with 1gb at all. I am still with 128mb.... I remember when 128mb sounded like to much hahaha

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quantumsheep   11-26-2006 at 08:41:24 PM
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lol, how many times have you had to answer that question.



Twelfty?

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darkstar782   11-26-2006 at 08:47:12 PM
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i wonder how much memory is going to play in it as the r600 supposedly has a true 512 bit bus and gddr4 memory of up to 2ghz i think i read somewhere so that might make a difference. either way interesting times ahead.



The 512bit bus will make more of a difference than the GDDR4 ram imho, The advantage of the X1950XTX over the X1900XTX is negligible.

2GHz is only about 11% faster than 1.8GHz, and you have to factor in the poor latencies of GDDR4

The 512 bit bus is of course 33% more bandwidth, my personal theory is that while this much bandwidth is not really needed in DX9 apps, it will be helpful in DX10 apps. This could mean a significant boost for the R600 over the G80 in DX10.

It is of course possible the R600 will wipe the floor with the G80. It is also possible that the G80 will turn out to be significantly faster. Its far too early to assume either company will have to play catch up with a refresh.

Being as the 7600GT 80nm is supposedly easily hitting 750MHz while the 90nm is clocked at 560MHz, It could be interesting to see the future 65nm versions of G80 and R600 getting a clock boost of a similar order of magnitude!

I'm impressed that the R600 core doesn't look much larger than the R580 core. And at 500million transistors it will hopefully consume less power than the G80 with 750m. If the performance of the two cards are similar as I currently expect, then the lower power consumption could be a deciding factor for many.

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melarcky   11-26-2006 at 08:47:39 PM
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lol, how many times have you had to answer that question.



Twelfty?
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sirheck   11-26-2006 at 08:59:00 PM
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ah yes i remember asking you that question. :lol:

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strangestranger   11-26-2006 at 09:14:02 PM
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it is strange that you could almost say the r600 won't be that big compared to the g80 which is crazy when you think that there is still half a billion transistors in there. still quality, not quantity is what counts so we shall see which one can win in games that matter. by that i mean games which need alot of power.

i'm still kinda hoping that both the r600 and g80 will be good performers in dx10 games say by mid next year when i may think of upgrading. they could be alot cheaper by then hopefully, or maybe i'll go for the latest and greatest.

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RyanMicah   11-26-2006 at 09:15:05 PM
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lol, how many times have you had to answer that question.



Twelfty?
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Did I catch a "niner" in there? What were you talking on, a walkie-talkie? :-P

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Heyyou27   11-26-2006 at 09:56:00 PM
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Is this the real deal? Either way, the R600 is sure to bring some serious competition for the G80.

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melarcky   11-26-2006 at 10:14:10 PM
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ah yes i remember asking you that question. :lol:

see what I mean... and Roger that...10-4

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