Upgrade to Athlon 64 from Athlon XP -- FPS in games

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oakleaf

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Hey everyone, I was hoping someone could give me some advice on this subject... right now im running an Athlon XP 3200+ with an x800xt pe and when I play CS:S in servers with a lot of people, I notice a big drop in the fps which leads me to believe my processor is holding me back.

My question to you guys is, since I just recently bought this damn video card without thinking (im kind of stuck with AGP now) would an upgrade to a Socket 939 board (probably has to be an NForce3 or K8T890) coupled with a cheap Athlon64 that I could overclock... would I see a big improvement in fps in games or is my video card not being very limited as it is with the AthlonXP?

I've tried to find benchmarks to answer this but there aren't many out there...
 
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gudodayn

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Most games are graphics dependant........
2 of my machines at home

1. K7~XP 2500+ (OCed to 3200++ / Gigabyte NF2 / 2 x 1GB DDR400 (CL2-3-2-5) / 6600GT ~ AGP

2. K8~A64 3200+ / DFI ~ NF4 SLI / 2 x 1GB DDR400 (CL2-3-2-5) / 6600GT ~ PCIex

Just to give you an idea......in 3DMark05, both machines would score roughly 3000 points and game play quality would more or less resemble one another......

In the A64 machine, OCing the CPU from 2.0 to 2.7GHz would give me another thousand odd points in 3DMark05 but the game play quality would pretty much be the same...........if a game gives me smooth game play on the K7 machine, so would the A64 machine; if a game is lagging like hell on the K7machine, so would the A64 machine~~

I have since purchased a 7900GTO and now the A64 machine scores close to 10K at stock settings and game play settings can be set at a higher quality without lagging

So I think the drop in FPS isnt a problem with your CPU......or platform
Like you said, you've recently upgrade to this ATI card, if anything, shouldnt it improve the frame rate or remain roughly the same??
Since you're playing online CS, have you checked your ping lately to see if it's within the normal range??
 
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I got the 3800+ because the 4000+ was 30 bucks more.....but it is not my money so what the heck :wink:


Yes he should check his internet connection.

I have an older machine too and it does about the same in online games as my main machine. Not a huge difference.
 
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gudodayn

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Most games are graphics dependant........
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Not CS:S I'm afraid - it's a CPU hog. My old P4C @ 3.5GHz rig struggles with it during big firefights, which sucks because the framerate drop affects aiming. :x

I dont play CS that much but if this is the case.......
Shouldn't the same CPU + new / better video card's frame rate should be "> or =" same CPU + old video card's frame rate??

I dont see how the frame rate would drop, I can understand that there were no improvements by changing to a better video card which may indicate the CPU / platform holding back the video card.
 
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How much ram are you running? cs/s online is a real memory hog. I've heard of people using all of 3 gigs, and still using the page file.
It is also true that that game is very cpu limited. Going to an A64 will give a marked improvement, if you have enough ram (2 gigs is the minimum).
 
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It's his internet connection, I have the same card, a slower processor ( 3000+ ) I get 105 fps in the test mode for CS:S and rarely drop below 50 or so in crowded areas.
 
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Most games are graphics dependant........
2 of my machines at home

1. K7~XP 2500+ (OCed to 3200++ / Gigabyte NF2 / 2 x 1GB DDR400 (CL2-3-2-5) / 6600GT ~ AGP

2. K8~A64 3200+ / DFI ~ NF4 SLI / 2 x 1GB DDR400 (CL2-3-2-5) / 6600GT ~ PCIex

Just to give you an idea......in 3DMark05, both machines would score roughly 3000 points and game play quality would more or less resemble one another......

In the A64 machine, OCing the CPU from 2.0 to 2.7GHz would give me another thousand odd points in 3DMark05 but the game play quality would pretty much be the same...........if a game gives me smooth game play on the K7 machine, so would the A64 machine; if a game is lagging like hell on the K7machine, so would the A64 machine~~

I have since purchased a 7900GTO and now the A64 machine scores close to 10K at stock settings and game play settings can be set at a higher quality without lagging

So I think the drop in FPS isnt a problem with your CPU......or platform
Like you said, you've recently upgrade to this ATI card, if anything, shouldnt it improve the frame rate or remain roughly the same??
Since you're playing online CS, have you checked your ping lately to see if it's within the normal range??
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That's it, 3000! That really suck!
 
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epsilon84

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It's his internet connection, I have the same card, a slower processor ( 3000+ ) I get 105 fps in the test mode for CS:S and rarely drop below 50 or so in crowded areas.
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Internet connection has nothing to do with framerates...

And I refuse to believe that an AXP 3000+ can achieve 50fps consistently during firefights.

I have an XP-M @ 2.6GHz (that's like a 3800+ using the AXP ratings) and it can get below 30fps. And errr... I have a high speed cable connection, FWIW...

ONLY my E6400 machine can consistently average above 60fps in CS:S - both my heavily overclocked P4-C and XP-M machines struggle at times.
 
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