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What's the deal with this and Cingular? I spoke to a rep today at the local
mall while I consider switching and he told me that Cingular will not unlock
their phones for you. I can see their point but I won't buy a phone if I
have to be locked into them while traveling in other countries for extended
periods of time. A day or two is ok but that's it. Is this really their
policy or just that of an uninformed rep?
Thanks,
Bob
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In <Ti9rd.591911$mD.578198@attbi_s02> on Wed, 01 Dec 2004 01:41:07 GMT, "Bob
K." <bob1030@hotmail.com> wrote:
>What's the deal with this and Cingular? I spoke to a rep today at the local
>mall while I consider switching and he told me that Cingular will not unlock
>their phones for you. I can see their point but I won't buy a phone if I
>have to be locked into them while traveling in other countries for extended
>periods of time. A day or two is ok but that's it. Is this really their
>policy or just that of an uninformed rep?
Uninformed rep.
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On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 01:41:07 GMT, "Bob K." <bob1030@hotmail.com> said
in alt.cellular.cingular:
>What's the deal with this and Cingular? I spoke to a rep today at the local
>mall while I consider switching and he told me that Cingular will not unlock
>their phones for you.
The two phones I've tried foreign SIMs in so far - Motorola V180 and
LG 1400 - weren't locked right out of the box.
(You didn't hear it from me.)
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I travel to the UK almost every summer this year I took my V400 with me when
I called CS they gave me a few options but I took what my cousin suggested
and had it UNLOCKED and I used a prepaid sim card to unlock it was easy
"Bob K." <bob1030@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> What's the deal with this and Cingular? I spoke to a rep today at the
local
> mall while I consider switching and he told me that Cingular will not
unlock
> their phones for you. I can see their point but I won't buy a phone if I
> have to be locked into them while traveling in other countries for
extended
> periods of time. A day or two is ok but that's it. Is this really their
> policy or just that of an uninformed rep?
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>
>
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Do you mean "unlocked" right out of the box?
"Al Klein" <rukbat@verizon.org> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 01:41:07 GMT, "Bob K." <bob1030@hotmail.com> said
> in alt.cellular.cingular:
>
> >What's the deal with this and Cingular? I spoke to a rep today at the
local
> >mall while I consider switching and he told me that Cingular will not
unlock
> >their phones for you.
>
> The two phones I've tried foreign SIMs in so far - Motorola V180 and
> LG 1400 - weren't locked right out of the box.
>
> (You didn't hear it from me.)
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Al Klein wrote:
>
>
> The two phones I've tried foreign SIMs in so far - Motorola V180 and
> LG 1400 - weren't locked right out of the box.
>
> (You didn't hear it from me.)
This is normal, if Cingular sells a phone that has international
capabilities, it will be sold unlocked. Only their US only phones are
locked.
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What qualifies as a international phone?
850/1900 is not international
but
850/900/1900 MHz or 850/900/1800/1900 MHz are?
"R.M" <usenetjunk@usenetjunk.com> wrote in message
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> Al Klein wrote:
> >
> >
> > The two phones I've tried foreign SIMs in so far - Motorola V180 and
> > LG 1400 - weren't locked right out of the box.
> >
> > (You didn't hear it from me.)
>
> This is normal, if Cingular sells a phone that has international
> capabilities, it will be sold unlocked. Only their US only phones are
> locked.
>
>
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In article <41AE3362.1070100@usenetjunk.com>,
"R.M" <usenetjunk@usenetjunk.com> wrote:
> Al Klein wrote:
> >
> >
> > The two phones I've tried foreign SIMs in so far - Motorola V180 and
> > LG 1400 - weren't locked right out of the box.
> >
> > (You didn't hear it from me.)
>
> This is normal, if Cingular sells a phone that has international
> capabilities, it will be sold unlocked. Only their US only phones are
> locked.
and Cingular is to be commended for selling unlocked phones.
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In article <Oxqrd.597255$mD.462626@attbi_s02>,
"Bob K." <bob1030@hotmail.com> wrote:
> What qualifies as a international phone?
>
> 850/1900 is not international
> but
> 850/900/1900 MHz or 850/900/1800/1900 MHz are?
>
>
>
>
> "R.M" <usenetjunk@usenetjunk.com> wrote in message
> news:41AE3362.1070100@usenetjunk.com...
> > Al Klein wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > The two phones I've tried foreign SIMs in so far - Motorola V180 and
> > > LG 1400 - weren't locked right out of the box.
> > >
> > > (You didn't hear it from me.)
> >
> > This is normal, if Cingular sells a phone that has international
> > capabilities, it will be sold unlocked. Only their US only phones are
> > locked.
> >
> >
900 Mhz and 1800 MHz are the International frequencies
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On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 13:26:36 GMT, "Bob K." <bob1030@hotmail.com> said
in alt.cellular.cingular:
>"Al Klein" <rukbat@verizon.org> wrote in message
>news:tjhqq09ibtmc8j4ijqd72oek9ibpfgg4lp@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 01:41:07 GMT, "Bob K." <bob1030@hotmail.com> said
>> in alt.cellular.cingular:
>>
>> >What's the deal with this and Cingular? I spoke to a rep today at the
>local
>> >mall while I consider switching and he told me that Cingular will not
>unlock
>> >their phones for you.
>>
>> The two phones I've tried foreign SIMs in so far - Motorola V180 and
>> LG 1400 - weren't locked right out of the box.
>>
>> (You didn't hear it from me.)
>Do you mean "unlocked" right out of the box?
The LG and the V180 both accepted T-Mobile SIMs - out of the box.
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On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 21:21:20 GMT, Jack Zwick <jzwick3@mindspring.com>
said in alt.cellular.cingular:
>In article <41AE3362.1070100@usenetjunk.com>,
> "R.M" <usenetjunk@usenetjunk.com> wrote:
>
>> Al Klein wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > The two phones I've tried foreign SIMs in so far - Motorola V180 and
>> > LG 1400 - weren't locked right out of the box.
>> >
>> > (You didn't hear it from me.)
>>
>> This is normal, if Cingular sells a phone that has international
>> capabilities, it will be sold unlocked. Only their US only phones are
>> locked.
>
>and Cingular is to be commended for selling unlocked phones.
Well ...
T-Mobile will give you the unlock code if a) you're traveling outside
the US/Canada area or b) the phone is still in use but the contract is
fulfilled.
But Cingular does go one stop better. Question is whether they'll
provide the lock code on a domestic phone after end-of-contract.
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Who uses the 850 Mhz?
I see the 900/1800 are international and 1900 is US.
"Jack Zwick" <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:jzwick3-248DEA.15484301122004@news1.east.earthlink.net...
> In article <Oxqrd.597255$mD.462626@attbi_s02>,
> "Bob K." <bob1030@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What qualifies as a international phone?
> >
> > 850/1900 is not international
> > but
> > 850/900/1900 MHz or 850/900/1800/1900 MHz are?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "R.M" <usenetjunk@usenetjunk.com> wrote in message
> > news:41AE3362.1070100@usenetjunk.com...
> > > Al Klein wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The two phones I've tried foreign SIMs in so far - Motorola V180 and
> > > > LG 1400 - weren't locked right out of the box.
> > > >
> > > > (You didn't hear it from me.)
> > >
> > > This is normal, if Cingular sells a phone that has international
> > > capabilities, it will be sold unlocked. Only their US only phones are
> > > locked.
> > >
> > >
>
> 900 Mhz and 1800 MHz are the International frequencies
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On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 01:26:10 GMT, "Bob K." <bob1030@hotmail.com> said
in alt.cellular.cingular:
>Who uses the 850 Mhz?
>I see the 900/1800 are international and 1900 is US.
The US uses 850/1900. (In the old days, 850 - which was called 800 -
was referred to as cellular, while 1900 was referred to as PCS,
leading to Sprint's ads about being 100% "PCS" and not cellular.)
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Al, how can you check if the phone is unlocked or not? I just bought a
v180 (t-mobile) and gmm-software.com seems to be down.
Thanks in advance
Al Klein wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 01:41:07 GMT, "Bob K." <bob1030@hotmail.com> said
> in alt.cellular.cingular:
>
> >What's the deal with this and Cingular? I spoke to a rep today at
the local
> >mall while I consider switching and he told me that Cingular will
not unlock
> >their phones for you.
>
> The two phones I've tried foreign SIMs in so far - Motorola V180 and
> LG 1400 - weren't locked right out of the box.
>
> (You didn't hear it from me.)
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On 11 Dec 2004 17:01:54 -0800, "an_mo" <andrea.m@bufera.org> said in
alt.cellular.cingular:
>Al, how can you check if the phone is unlocked or not? I just bought a
>v180 (t-mobile) and gmm-software.com seems to be down.
Put in a SIM from another carrier. If the phone accepts it, it's not
locked.
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On 11 Dec 2004 17:01:54 -0800, "an_mo" <andrea.m@bufera.org> wrote:
>Al, how can you check if the phone is unlocked or not? I just bought a
>v180 (t-mobile) and gmm-software.com seems to be down.
The only sure fire way to tell is to insert a SIM not from that
carrier/operator. If you don't get the SIM rejected message it's
unlocked. If you get a SIM rejected message it means that it's
locked.
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Fester: can you describe exactly how you got it unlocked using a
prepaid card? I checked a couple of sites and the minimum I found for
the unlock code was $40. I'd rather avoid this absurd tax.
Fester wrote:
> I travel to the UK almost every summer this year I took my V400 with
me when
> I called CS they gave me a few options but I took what my cousin
suggested
> and had it UNLOCKED and I used a prepaid sim card to unlock it was
easy
>
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In <1102897359.735099.91000@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> on 12 Dec 2004
16:22:39 -0800, "an_mo" <andrea.m@bufera.org> wrote:
>Fester: can you describe exactly how you got it unlocked using a
>prepaid card? I checked a couple of sites and the minimum I found for
>the unlock code was $40. I'd rather avoid this absurd tax.
What makes it a "tax?"
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It's just a figure of speech
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In <1102951080.171023.47040@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> on 13 Dec 2004
07:18:00 -0800, "an_mo" <andrea.m@bufera.org> wrote:
>It's just a figure of speech
Fair enough, but not a good one.
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On 12 Dec 2004 16:22:39 -0800, "an_mo" <andrea.m@bufera.org> said in
alt.cellular.cingular:
>Fester: can you describe exactly how you got it unlocked using a
>prepaid card? I checked a couple of sites and the minimum I found for
>the unlock code was $40. I'd rather avoid this absurd tax.
There are sites that will sell you Motorola unlock codes for a lot
less than that.
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Care to cite a couple? Thanks.
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On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 01:55:08 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@verizon.org> spewed:
>in alt.cellular.cingular:
>
>>Who uses the 850 Mhz?
>
>>I see the 900/1800 are international and 1900 is US.
>
>The US uses 850/1900. (In the old days, 850 - which was called 800 -
>was referred to as cellular, while 1900 was referred to as PCS,
>leading to Sprint's ads about being 100% "PCS" and not cellular.)
I thought PCS was bastardized (proprietary) CDMA not GSM?
My brother's got a Ericsson T616 that's 850/1800/1900 and he says it works
in Europe and Mexico, but not Japan.
Anybody know what countries/regions are what?
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 03:24:46 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@verizon.org> spewed:
>>Al, how can you check if the phone is unlocked or not? I just bought a
>>v180 (t-mobile) and gmm-software.com seems to be down.
>
>Put in a SIM from another carrier. If the phone accepts it, it's not
>locked.
Barring having access to another SIM, is there a way?
I've been trying to find out forever.
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On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 06:51:08 -0700,
see.my.sig.4.addr@nowhere.com.invalid wrote:
>I thought PCS was bastardized (proprietary) CDMA not GSM?
Do you eat with that mouth?
PCS is just a frequency designation that was made by the FCC several
years ago to indicate any mobile operator who used "1900 Mhz" as
opposed to cellular operators who used "800 Mhz" cellular. PCS is
used with CDMA, GSM and with TDMA IS-136. GSM was *only* on PCS up
til two years ago when (then) AT&T Wireless and cingular used it on
their cellular operations.
>My brother's got a Ericsson T616 that's 850/1800/1900 and he says it works
>in Europe and Mexico, but not Japan.
Japan uses a proprietary Jphone mobile system which is not compatible
with any other mobile system in the world.
>Anybody know what countries/regions are what?
http://www.kropla.com/mobilephones.htm gives an overview.
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Bob K. Wrote:
> What's the deal with this and Cingular? I spoke to a rep today at the
> local
> mall while I consider switching and he told me that Cingular will not
> unlock
> their phones for you. I can see their point but I won't buy a phone if
> I
> have to be locked into them while traveling in other countries for
> extended
> periods of time. A day or two is ok but that's it. Is this really
> their
> policy or just that of an uninformed rep?
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
bob, what kind of cell phone do you have? if you have nokia i can help
you unlock that phone. go to www.kisland.com click on computer forum
and then click on gsm forum. post you imei, provider, model, country. i
can't do it here bcoz were not allowed to post any code here. im always
there giving a code for nokia. see you there.
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In article <54bh411rql7m4v77h06gg4i3nnjmudgrh4@4ax.com>,
<see.my.sig.4.addr@nowhere.com.invalid> wrote:
>On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 03:24:46 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@verizon.org> spewed:
>>>Al, how can you check if the phone is unlocked or not? I just bought a
>>>v180 (t-mobile) and gmm-software.com seems to be down.
>>
>>Put in a SIM from another carrier. If the phone accepts it, it's not
>>locked.
>
>Barring having access to another SIM, is there a way?
Most of the time, there isn't.
With some phones there are indirect ways. For instance, if you have
the valid unlock code for a Nokia phone and try to unlock a phone that is
***ALREADY** unlocked, the phone will tell you.
Using appropriate software and data cables for other phones, there
probably are ways too.
None is as simple as getting a SIM card and turning the phone on.
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>
> Using appropriate software and data cables for other phones, there
> probably are ways too.
>
> None is as simple as getting a SIM card and turning the phone on.
>
On my Sony-Ericsson, I press <**< and it tells me on the Screen if it's
unlocked or not.
That's simple, IMHO :-)
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"Paw-Paw" <pawpaw@granpa.com> wrote in message
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> >
>> Using appropriate software and data cables for other phones, there
>> probably are ways too.
>>
>> None is as simple as getting a SIM card and turning the phone on.
>>
>
> On my Sony-Ericsson, I press <**< and it tells me on the Screen if it's
> unlocked or not.
>
> That's simple, IMHO :-)
>
BTW- < is Joystick left
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On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:07:32 -0500, erwin 10-4
<erwin.10-4.1nltmz@nospam.cellphoneforums.net> wrote:
> i
>can't do it here bcoz were not allowed to post any code here. im always
>there giving a code for nokia. see you there.
You seem to be under the impression that this is somehow a "moderated"
news group. It is not. Unless you were planning on posting some sort
of binary file I don't know that there's any restriction if someone
wants to reveal their IMEI to the world at large. It's conceivable
that someone could use that IMEI to clone a phone but it's highly
unlikely.
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Paw-Paw wrote:
>
> On my Sony-Ericsson, I press <**< and it tells me on the Screen if
it's
> unlocked or not.
>
> That's simple, IMHO :-)
I have a Z500a, when I do that if says "personalized with MNC3"
what does this mean?
Then, it goes to a screen with 4 choices:
Network
Network Subset
SP
Corporate
All are unlocked except Network. What does this mean?
Monica
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<njrealtor@rcn.com> wrote in message
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>
> Paw-Paw wrote:
>>
>> On my Sony-Ericsson, I press <**< and it tells me on the Screen if
> it's
>> unlocked or not.
>>
>> That's simple, IMHO :-)
>
> I have a Z500a, when I do that if says "personalized with MNC3"
> what does this mean?
>
> Then, it goes to a screen with 4 choices:
> Network
> Network Subset
> SP
> Corporate
>
> All are unlocked except Network. What does this mean?
>
> Monica
I'm not sure what the MNC3 is, But, That means it's locked.
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On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 06:51:08 -0700, see.my.sig.4.addr@nowhere.com.invalid wrote:
>I thought PCS was bastardized (proprietary) CDMA not GSM?
No. PCS refers to the frequencies and the FCC rules to regulate their use, not
to the modulation scheme (GSM/CDMA/TDMA/iDEN/AMPS/et cetera).
<snip>
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On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 06:51:10 -0700, see.my.sig.4.addr@nowhere.com.invalid wrote:
<snip>
>Of course, these days it's really irrelevant if the phone is Palm OS.
>You can just find an unlock program off the bin groups and unlock it
>immediately.
Really? I've been watching, and have not seen a program for unlocking the 650.
If you could refer to such a posting, I'd appreciate it.
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In article <4263e179.240349328@156.121.5.250>, johnbartley@email.com
wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 06:51:10 -0700, see.my.sig.4.addr@nowhere.com.invalid
> wrote:
>
> <snip>
> >Of course, these days it's really irrelevant if the phone is Palm OS.
> >You can just find an unlock program off the bin groups and unlock it
> >immediately.
>
> Really? I've been watching, and have not seen a program for unlocking the
> 650.
> If you could refer to such a posting, I'd appreciate it.
They're still working on it at:
http://shadowmite.com/
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"Joseph" <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 06:51:08 -0700,
> see.my.sig.4.addr@nowhere.com.invalid wrote:
>
> >I thought PCS was bastardized (proprietary) CDMA not GSM?
>
> Do you eat with that mouth?
<snip>
From the dictionary:
bas·tard·ize (bàs¹ter-dìz´) verb, transitive
bas·tard·ized, bas·tard·iz·ing, bas·tard·iz·es
To lower in quality or character; debase.
Chas.
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My Cingular Nokia 6820 (purchased March 2005) was unlocked right out of
the box. I've used in Australia w/ a local SIM card.
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