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Anonymous
January 2, 2005 1:53:16 PM

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hi all,

This question comes up because I've "removed" programs using Windows
Add/Remove option, and while the program no longer shows in the
Add/Remove list. the shortcuts I have added or moved on my start menu
will still open up the program after it has supposedly be removed..

Would this have anything to do with the restore feature of XP? Have I
circumvented it by going in to windows explorer and manually removing
those program folders?

thanks,
niteowl
Anonymous
January 2, 2005 2:44:30 PM

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Hi,

Certain system programs cannot actually be removed. All the Add & Remove
applet does is remove mention of it - Internet Explorer is one good example
of this. If the application in question comes from a third-party, you should
refer to their support for proper removal steps.

And, no, this has nothing to do with System Restore.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"niteowl" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:n06gt096ic2h66mln1jek9ua7fpg5u1430@4ax.com...
> hi all,
>
> This question comes up because I've "removed" programs using Windows
> Add/Remove option, and while the program no longer shows in the
> Add/Remove list. the shortcuts I have added or moved on my start menu
> will still open up the program after it has supposedly be removed..
>
> Would this have anything to do with the restore feature of XP? Have I
> circumvented it by going in to windows explorer and manually removing
> those program folders?
>
> thanks,
> niteowl
Anonymous
January 2, 2005 3:51:26 PM

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"niteowl" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:n06gt096ic2h66mln1jek9ua7fpg5u1430@4ax.com
> hi all,
>
> This question comes up because I've "removed" programs using Windows
> Add/Remove option, and while the program no longer shows in the
> Add/Remove list. the shortcuts I have added or moved on my start menu
> will still open up the program after it has supposedly be removed..
>
> Would this have anything to do with the restore feature of XP? Have I
> circumvented it by going in to windows explorer and manually removing
> those program folders?
>
> thanks,
> niteowl

First eliminate any scumware.
What You Should Know About Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/deviou...

CAUTION!!!!! Before you try to remove spyware using any of these programs ,
download a copy of LSPFIX from any of the following sites:
http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm
http://www.spychecker.com/program/winsockxpfix.html
(if your OS is Win2k or XP) The process of removing certain malware may kill
your internet connection. If this should occur, this program, LSPFIX, will
enable you to regain your connection.

See
Dealing with Unwanted Malware, Parasites, Toolbars and Search Engines
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm

Note that AdAware and SpyBot S & D will each catch some things the other
won't. Also, each needs to be updated with the program's update function
before every use, even when just downloaded. There's also a lot more to do
than just those two programs. CWShredder is also available here:
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/regs_edits/cwshredder.z...
**Post your HijackThis log to
http://www.spywareinfo.com/forums/
http://forums.tomcoyote.org/
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/ or the Spyware forum at
http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30 for expert analysis, not here.**
Alternative download pages for Ad-Aware, Spybot, HijackThis and CWShredder
may be found on this page:
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm.


See this link for information about malware:
http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/malware.ars

If nothing there helps, please post back to this thread.

--
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Please respond in Newsgroup only. Do not send email
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Anonymous
January 2, 2005 4:48:11 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics (More info?)

okay, thanks Rick,

the program in question was Nero, but this has happened with other 3rd
party programs also.. in win98 when you removed something it was
actually removed, doesn't seem to be the case with XP though. ;-(

I'm learning little by little.. this old fossil of a brain has trouble
sometimes with new information, takes a while to get those new
pathways burned in. ;-)

Thanks for responding,

niteowl



On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 11:44:30 -0500, "Rick \"Nutcase\" Rogers"
<rick@mvps.org> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Certain system programs cannot actually be removed. All the Add & Remove
>applet does is remove mention of it - Internet Explorer is one good example
>of this. If the application in question comes from a third-party, you should
>refer to their support for proper removal steps.
>
>And, no, this has nothing to do with System Restore.
Anonymous
January 2, 2005 5:34:30 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics (More info?)

Hi,

It means the program's uninstall routine was incomplete - you should contact
the program vendor with this issue. This may be especially true if it was
installed under multiple profiles.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"niteowl" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> okay, thanks Rick,
>
> the program in question was Nero, but this has happened with other 3rd
> party programs also.. in win98 when you removed something it was
> actually removed, doesn't seem to be the case with XP though. ;-(
>
> I'm learning little by little.. this old fossil of a brain has trouble
> sometimes with new information, takes a while to get those new
> pathways burned in. ;-)
>
> Thanks for responding,
>
> niteowl
>
>
>
> On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 11:44:30 -0500, "Rick \"Nutcase\" Rogers"
> <rick@mvps.org> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Certain system programs cannot actually be removed. All the Add & Remove
>>applet does is remove mention of it - Internet Explorer is one good
>>example
>>of this. If the application in question comes from a third-party, you
>>should
>>refer to their support for proper removal steps.
>>
>>And, no, this has nothing to do with System Restore.
>
Anonymous
January 2, 2005 5:50:40 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics (More info?)

On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 12:51:26 -0600, "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP"
<franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote:

>"niteowl" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>news:n06gt096ic2h66mln1jek9ua7fpg5u1430@4ax.com
>> hi all,
>>
>> This question comes up because I've "removed" programs using Windows
>> Add/Remove option, and while the program no longer shows in the
>> Add/Remove list. the shortcuts I have added or moved on my start menu
>> will still open up the program after it has supposedly be removed..
>>
>> Would this have anything to do with the restore feature of XP? Have I
>> circumvented it by going in to windows explorer and manually removing
>> those program folders?
>>
>> thanks,
>> niteowl
>
>First eliminate any scumware.
>What You Should Know About Spyware
>http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/deviou...
>
>CAUTION!!!!! Before you try to remove spyware using any of these programs ,
>download a copy of LSPFIX from any of the following sites:
>http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm
>http://www.spychecker.com/program/winsockxpfix.html
>(if your OS is Win2k or XP) The process of removing certain malware may kill
>your internet connection. If this should occur, this program, LSPFIX, will
>enable you to regain your connection.
>
>See
>Dealing with Unwanted Malware, Parasites, Toolbars and Search Engines
>http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
>
>Note that AdAware and SpyBot S & D will each catch some things the other
>won't. Also, each needs to be updated with the program's update function
>before every use, even when just downloaded. There's also a lot more to do
>than just those two programs. CWShredder is also available here:
>http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/regs_edits/cwshredder.z...
>**Post your HijackThis log to
>http://www.spywareinfo.com/forums/
>http://forums.tomcoyote.org/
>http://www.wilderssecurity.com/ or the Spyware forum at
>http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30 for expert analysis, not here.**
>Alternative download pages for Ad-Aware, Spybot, HijackThis and CWShredder
>may be found on this page:
>http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm.
>
>
>See this link for information about malware:
>http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/malware.ars
>
>If nothing there helps, please post back to this thread.


Frank,

thanksf or the info, the only program I didn't already have was the
LSPFIX, I run adaware and spybot after every internet session, the
LSPFIX found 4 entries, but removed none of them, so I assume they are
suppose to be there.

I don't do much peer to peer stuff, so I've remained pretty clean for
a long time.. I also updated and ran my CWShredder, and it found
nothing either.

I'm not sure what this had to do with 3rd party programs not being
removed when using the Add/Remove applet in XP, but my system is clean
of malware/spyware. :-)

Thanks for the info.

niteowl
Anonymous
January 3, 2005 2:12:45 AM

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You might try the Clean Tool in this link:
http://www.nero.com/en/General_Clean_Tool.html


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"niteowl" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:bpjgt0tk9ncd72osjn9uv18j9e3jiiuata@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 12:51:26 -0600, "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP"
> <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote:
>
>>"niteowl" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>news:n06gt096ic2h66mln1jek9ua7fpg5u1430@4ax.com
>>> hi all,
>>>
>>> This question comes up because I've "removed" programs using Windows
>>> Add/Remove option, and while the program no longer shows in the
>>> Add/Remove list. the shortcuts I have added or moved on my start
>>> menu
>>> will still open up the program after it has supposedly be removed..
>>>
>>> Would this have anything to do with the restore feature of XP? Have
>>> I
>>> circumvented it by going in to windows explorer and manually
>>> removing
>>> those program folders?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> niteowl
>>
>>First eliminate any scumware.
>>What You Should Know About Spyware
>>http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/deviou...
>>
>>CAUTION!!!!! Before you try to remove spyware using any of these
>>programs ,
>>download a copy of LSPFIX from any of the following sites:
>>http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm
>>http://www.spychecker.com/program/winsockxpfix.html
>>(if your OS is Win2k or XP) The process of removing certain malware
>>may kill
>>your internet connection. If this should occur, this program, LSPFIX,
>>will
>>enable you to regain your connection.
>>
>>See
>>Dealing with Unwanted Malware, Parasites, Toolbars and Search Engines
>>http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
>>
>>Note that AdAware and SpyBot S & D will each catch some things the
>>other
>>won't. Also, each needs to be updated with the program's update
>>function
>>before every use, even when just downloaded. There's also a lot more
>>to do
>>than just those two programs. CWShredder is also available here:
>>http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/regs_edits/cwshredder.z...
>>**Post your HijackThis log to
>>http://www.spywareinfo.com/forums/
>>http://forums.tomcoyote.org/
>>http://www.wilderssecurity.com/ or the Spyware forum at
>>http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30 for expert analysis, not
>>here.**
>>Alternative download pages for Ad-Aware, Spybot, HijackThis and
>>CWShredder
>>may be found on this page:
>>http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm.
>>
>>
>>See this link for information about malware:
>>http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/malware.ars
>>
>>If nothing there helps, please post back to this thread.
>
>
> Frank,
>
> thanksf or the info, the only program I didn't already have was the
> LSPFIX, I run adaware and spybot after every internet session, the
> LSPFIX found 4 entries, but removed none of them, so I assume they are
> suppose to be there.
>
> I don't do much peer to peer stuff, so I've remained pretty clean for
> a long time.. I also updated and ran my CWShredder, and it found
> nothing either.
>
> I'm not sure what this had to do with 3rd party programs not being
> removed when using the Add/Remove applet in XP, but my system is clean
> of malware/spyware. :-)
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
> niteowl
>
>
>
>
!