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What's the better card: ATi X1650Pro or Nvidia 7600GT?

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November 30, 2006 1:55:02 PM

What's the better card: ATi X1650Pro or Nvidia 7600GT?

They're identical in price?

They both support dual monitors right?
November 30, 2006 2:49:09 PM

Definitely the 7600GT.
November 30, 2006 3:01:35 PM

The cards are about identical. You are unlikely to notice any performance difference in a game, just in some benchmarks. Buy whichever is cheaper if it's just for games. But you'll want the Radeon if you like to watch movies on your PC, or want AA & HDR on at the same time in a game. Depends on what you need.
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November 30, 2006 3:04:54 PM

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Definitely the 7600GT.


yup
November 30, 2006 3:05:27 PM

The X1650XT would be comparable to the 7600GT, not the X1650pro.
November 30, 2006 4:30:04 PM

Yes, and the 7600GT is better than both. Like I said in my previous post, the X1650XT would be comparable, not the "PRO".
November 30, 2006 4:34:04 PM

Thanks, kaotao. I was just making sure. The 7600gt supports dual monitors, correct?
November 30, 2006 5:00:56 PM

yes
November 30, 2006 5:44:21 PM

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The 7600GT is better that the x1650Pro or the x1650XT in all games.


NO, the X1650 XT is on par with the 7600 GT in actual games, and beats the 7600 GT about half the time. For example, here's an instance where the X1650 XT kills the 7600 GT:

http://firingsquad.com/hardware/ati_radeon_x1650_xt_pre...


The X1650 PRO will get eaten alive by the 7600 GT though.
November 30, 2006 5:46:13 PM

As has been said above, the X1650XT is comparable to the 7600GT... in fact, it noses it out just a little (almost insignificantly) in most benchmarks. The X1650Pro is more a competitor to the 7600GS.

The X1650XT costs about 10-20 bucks more than the 7600GT right now, but its only just arrived on the market. Hopefully the prices will drop a little by Christmas and I'll grab one (maybe even an X1800GTO if it's priced around $150).
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November 30, 2006 7:43:06 PM

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The X1650XT would be comparable to the 7600GT, not the X1650pro.

Agreed.
November 30, 2006 8:16:54 PM

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Definitely the 7600GT.


yup

I third that.
December 1, 2006 12:02:14 AM

So, the 7600gt is the card to buy right now at this price point. Are there any price drops coming (within the month) on higher performance cards (maybe due to Dx10, or will that be after Vista launches)?

Thanks for all the input.
December 1, 2006 12:34:16 AM

Yes, if you need a card right away the 7600GT is the way to go. But like I said, there is not a huge deal of difference between the prices of the 7600GT and the X1650XT, and Christmas sales might close the gap. What's your budget by the way?
December 1, 2006 12:50:42 AM

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What's the better card: ATi X1650Pro or Nvidia 7600GT?

They're identical in price?

They both support dual monitors right?


7600GT...dual monitor support depends on card manufacturer.
December 1, 2006 5:30:20 AM

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Yes, if you need a card right away the 7600GT is the way to go. But like I said, there is not a huge deal of difference between the prices of the 7600GT and the X1650XT, and Christmas sales might close the gap. What's your budget by the way?


I don't need it right now per say, but I'm ready to buy right now. Though prices continuously fall in the GPU market.

I just want the best for the $$$ entry-level card. The 7600gt after rebate is pretty attractive. I mean, if there is a card that's way better for $30-40 that's not a problem. I just don't want to spend X amount and be held back by my vintage 3.0gz P4-1.5gb/pc3200. Not to mention I'll probably build a new system after tax time next year.

Games along the lines of CoD2 would be nice to play at high or close to high settings. I've never played FarCry either.
December 1, 2006 5:37:30 AM

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What's the better card: ATi X1650Pro or Nvidia 7600GT?

They're identical in price?

They both support dual monitors right?


7600GT...dual monitor support depends on card manufacturer.

I was under the assumption that any card with dual outputs supports dual monitors?

Also, currently I have two PC's hooked up two one monitor through a KVM switch. BUT, once I get a dual output card I was going to connect another 17" CRT. So...how would I do that? Now let me say only my main PC needs the dual monitors. So, how would I do that? 2 PC's, 2 monitors, PC #1 hooked to dual monitors, PC #2 hooked to one monitor, through a KVM switch?
December 1, 2006 6:08:28 AM

you could buy 2 kvm switches, lol!
December 1, 2006 12:47:26 PM

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I don't need it right now per say, but I'm ready to buy right now. Though prices continuously fall in the GPU market.

I just want the best for the $$$ entry-level card. The 7600gt after rebate is pretty attractive. I mean, if there is a card that's way better for $30-40 that's not a problem. I just don't want to spend X amount and be held back by my vintage 3.0gz P4-1.5gb/pc3200. Not to mention I'll probably build a new system after tax time next year.

Games along the lines of CoD2 would be nice to play at high or close to high settings. I've never played FarCry either.


If you're willing to spend $30-$40 for a better card go with this X1800GTO. It's got a 256-bit bus, unlike the 7600GT and X1650XT, and is based on the X1800 core. At stock speeds it beats the X1650XT and 7600GT in pretty much every benchmark, andcfrom what I've heard it can be a decent overclocker.
December 1, 2006 5:01:16 PM

There was a sale going on up here in canada (toronto). A BFG 7600 GT OC for 175$ - 50$ mail in rebate... Although the rebates take a while it was quite the outstanding price. You cant go wrong for a 125$ video card like the GT (after savings). I would be reluctant to purchase a 7600 gt for more then 200$ though.

They are both good cards its a hard choice. Ultimately though the cheaper card that provides the same bang, is worth the route to go. You cant go wrong with a BFG either specially for gaming.

Also no reason to wait for DX 10. They wont be making any games any time soon that aren't backwards compliant with dx 9 cards. Think about how many people out there upgrade recently or in the past. Game publishers cant catter to only DX 10 people. The 7600 will last you until the summer of next year and youll be able to play the latest games.

Granted you cant play with the highest resolutions and details possible, but then again you cant really do that with most cards under 250$. Its a tough call. Waiting only makes the old cards cheaper, and the new ones more expensive. So unless you think youll be dropping 500 to 600$ in early Janurary when the r600 from ATI comes out, theres no point to wait it out. Otherwise you can wait forever because its a fact next month will yield better cards and prices.
December 2, 2006 9:35:47 AM

No, I don't need a card right this minute. The rebate price of the 7600gt is pretty attractive, though. As for budget...I just don't want to be bottlenecked by my vintage 3.0gz P4/1.5gb pc3200 RAM. If it's not a bottleneck I'm wait for a deal on something like the x1650xt.

I thought any card with dual outputs supported dual monitors?
December 2, 2006 9:36:17 AM

Edit- double post.
December 2, 2006 11:12:52 AM

ATI X1650PRO would be a 7600GS overclocked
ATI X1650XT is a 7600GT

But in this case the 7600GT is a better choice if it is compared to the X1650PRO but is about the same with the X1650XT.
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