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Hey there folks!

As a new initiative, we're going to be compiling a top ten list of the biggest site-related questions and article suggestions for a two week period and answering them directly in a feature piece on the front page.

If you've got any direct questions for the Tom's folks to answer or great suggestions that you think we should implement, post to this thread and they'll be submitted for review and consideration for addition in the new feature!

Thanks!

Reply to jpishgar
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Thanks Joe! Feel free to weigh in, everyone. I'll also be collecting some of the mail that drops into my inbox each day to include :)

Reply to cangelini
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Well my first suggestion is something I've seen people ask for, for years and years from the tech community in general:

Max OC Vs Max OC GPU benchmarks. For an example, the GTX 460 and GTX 470 vs the 5770, 5850, and 5870. Overclock them all as high as possible and see what you get. Then get the performance increases at certain OC milestones in a certain benchmark to show overclocking performance gains between the cards.

But on a personal note here are some suggestions/questions:

1. Computer cases.

A. I would love to see a direct A/B testing of multiple high airflow cases.

B. A modern watercooling guide would do wonders, in my opinion, to get newer users into it.

C. I would love to see a good article to highlight the differences, advantages, disadvantages, and thinking behind different styles and markets of computer cases, like the high end Lian Li cases vs the mainstream gaming cases. It would be great if the writer could manage to describe the quality difference between companies like Lian Li and Silverstone and the more mainstream companies like Antec, which I find very hard to describe.

I would also really, really, like to bring back that short-lived article series where Tom's featured the different rigs of the users in it's community. I always loved seeing other user's Rigs.

It would be great to see some computer monitor articles. I would love to see an article that highlighted the difference between cheaper TN panel monitors and high end "true" 8-bit panels, like the IPS panel.

Thanks for this guys, its a really great gesture.


Message edited by AMW1011 on 09-02-2010 at 05:25:50 AM
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Reply to AMW1011
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Hello, I think this is a really good idea. Good job.

My idea is that there is a section for CPU bottleneck with gaming. There is always speculation as to how much CPU you need for your graphics card. Legion Hardware did a great review where they tested like 20 CPUs (also varying the clock speed) with Crossfire HD5870s, I find this article highly valuable yet still there is guess work which needs to be done to adapt it to different graphics setups.

The best way to implement this, I believe, is to create a system where users submit benchmarking scores like with the Crysis Bench tool. If users submitted the data then basically every combination would be covered, without the hours and hours of testing by yous.

Maybe users could even earn forum points for submitting scores, I know I would submit without it but maybe others are different...

Also to create a standardized benchmark maybe a script would have to be created for all the games which do not include a benchmarking tool (I'm not sure how hard this is to do...).

Thanks.

Reply to Wolygon

I'd like to see some updated information on the best CPU and GPU Hierarchy charts as well as a summary table of CPU and GPU specifications. A summary article with a breakdown of the differences between the Intel/AMD processor families and a guesstimate of how various mobile graphics cards compare would be ideal.

The reason I'm asking for this is I have recently been considering buying a medium-duty gaming laptop and am having a hard time comparing the options like:
i3-370M vs i5-450M (+$50) vs i5-520M (+$100) vs i7-720QM (+250) (prices from a specific model)
or
335M vs 285M vs 5850 vs 5650 (which graphics card for performance/money)

In comparing the graphics cards I have been out of the loop and do not know how the cards compare with each other or how some of the last generation of cards (285M/4850) differ from the current gen.

On the processor side of things I would like to see some recommendations on processor family and pricing, from what I was able to figure out on the cards I mentioned the i3 has no HT or Turbo, the i5-450M has turbo and HT, i5-520M has a faster turbo and HT, while the i7-720QM is an older Clarksfield chip with 4 cores/HT/and a higher turbo... but knowing this doesn't help me at all in trying to figure out if the upgrade is worth the price difference, or if it's even worth considering because in the model I was looking at the only GPU available is the 5650 so maybe it would be better off to switch to a model with better graphics.



Reply to menetlaus

Ok Chris, you ABSOLUTELY need to do reviews on these:

 

1. LCD round up by different sizes or by price or by resolution. It must must be done properly, as in ACTUALLY MEASURE the color,etc NOT just saying "LCD A had a clearer picture than LCD B". See AnandTech reviews on LCDs. They are one of the few that do proper LCD reviews, it would be awesome if more sites do LCD reviews like that.

 

2. Water cooling (ie. REAL WCing NOT Corsair H50,etc) round up.

 

3. Older HDDs vs modern HDDs vs SSD.

 

4. Older CPUs (ie P4, Athlon X2) vs modern CPUs like C2D, i7, Phenom II,etc in gaming using modern GPUs like a 5850/460/4850. Along with every day use benchmarks (ie. Virus scan,etc).

 

5. 2P/4P server/workstation benchmarks (ie. Maya rendering,etc)

 

The items in bold are what I really want to see.


Message edited by Shadow703793 on 09-05-2010 at 03:51:41 AM
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Reply to Shadow703793

THG used to do nice reviews of LCDs around 2006 (who remembers the speedy Viewsonic VX922?) but I don't think they have anyone with the knowledge and equipment to do it any more.

Reply to randoMIZER

^ Exactly. Which is about time that TH does something about it. As for testing equipment, I'm sure they can buy them with their budget and ask for manufacture samples for LCDs.

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Reply to Shadow703793
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Guys!! I've been talking to some users on other forums who claim that the Lucid Hydra scaling has really, really improved. I think Tom's should look into this.

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Reply to AMW1011

^ Agreed. But I want the LCD review first.

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Reply to Shadow703793
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I enjoyed the CPU/GPU bottlenecks article but would like you to follow up with an AMD system. Also I don't like Tom's CPU charts anymore. I liked the old ones and only two games.........bench games and games that take advantage of multi cpu's please. Throw in a few vintage cpu's to compare. Take a look at AnandTech' Bench and you will get the idea.

;-P

Reply to caamsa

Hi, I've noticed a lot of articles on the THG front page now link to Tom's Style - the gadgets and items featured seem pretty cool, but it would be nice if there was a comments section for the community to discuss them. Any reasons why these articles don't accept comments like the ordinary news articles do?

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Reply to Rab1d-BDGR

Rab1d-BDGR wrote :

Hi, I've noticed a lot of articles on the THG front page now link to Tom's Style - the gadgets and items featured seem pretty cool, but it would be nice if there was a comments section for the community to discuss them. Any reasons why these articles don't accept comments like the ordinary news articles do?


When they had comments for articles like this people flamed the author for posting them. It's much easier to disable comments than to get rid of comments.

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Reply to Shadow703793

Shadow703793 wrote :

When they had comments for articles like this people flamed the author for posting them. It's much easier to disable comments than to get rid of comments.



Fair enough.

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Reply to Rab1d-BDGR

This is something not everyone has access to. I would love for someone to do benchmarks on one of these massively-cored Opterons. There's 4-CPU motherboards out there: http://www.provantage.com/supermic [...] UPM392.htm

Even though most of tomshardware readers won't buy Xeon and Opteron systems, it could be a neat look into the future. Also, there's a fantasy aspect about these super systems that most of us can't play with. But yeah, just seeing someone benchmark a 48-core Opteron (4x12 core) will make jaws drop.

There's going to be a new set of Opterons coming out in 2011 as well, and Bulldozer is said to get up to 16-core. So, that could be 64 cores on a motherboard.

Reply to Shin-san

^ 4P systems usually have bad price vs performance compaired to a 2x 2Ps,etc. Yes, the market for these kind of systems exist, but it is very small. A 2P workstation review would be nice indeed. However, I'd say wait until the LGA2011 and Bulldozer hits before doing the 2P review for the coming gen.

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Reply to Shadow703793

3D TV without Glasses.
info @ www.3dfusion.com

How's that for an article idea. :~)

Reply to brainrazer
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Hi there - Wasn't sure to post it here, the mobo's forum or a new thread; but with all the new info emerging around P67 chipset, it would be really great to see a thorough comparison between the 2 high-end motherboards for the i7 2600K: The Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD7 Vs. the ASUS Maximus IV Extreme. All the usual suspects such as O/Clocking and especially their respective performance with 2-way / 3-way SLI on a GTX 570 or 580 (and Xfire if you have the time) as I believe they each utilise the NF200 chip differently: - Gigabyte to provide 2 x16,x16 lanes (all going through the NF200 chip with switches to engage quad x8 if all the slots are populated) while ASUS will deliver only native x8,x8 off the intel chip with only 2 cards installed as per the P67 chipset and only utilise the NF200 chip when a third card is installed.

 

Anyway - just a thought of an article I'd dearly like to read. Perhaps others would also?


Message edited by Tw33kR on 01-17-2011 at 10:17:08 AM
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Until there are fixed P67 chipset mobos available and/or Bulldozer is released, I can fully understand there'd be a hiatus on the SBM articles. Anyone with a budget over $750-$800 would be foolish to build now.
In the spirit(s) of both competitions and giveaways, however, I have some alternate suggestions:

1. Do a $500-$550 competition. Three (or more) authors build budget boxes and overclock them for a competition. My biggest concern there is we'd see three 770/870 + X3 455 builds, although it might be more interesting if you did a live feed of the overclocking (even though it wouldn't be LN2).

2. Do a graphics card competition. Provide the same base platform of CPU, mobo, RAM, and drives to three authors. From their (varying) budgets, they choose only the PSU, case (+fans) and GPU(s). Only the GPU(s) and PSUs that go with them are given away.

3. Do a potentially massive roundup, e.g. of cases (or monitors). The total SBM budget of $500+$1000+$2000 may buy more cases than you've got time to review (and give away!), but you could probably choose a range of typical sizes and styles.

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Reply to jtt283

I think there should be a benchmarking section in the forums, with several different benchmarks like the 3Dmark and PCmark series, Unigine, Luxmark, and SuperPI. There are several more that could be added but these are just a few.

Reply to D1RTYJU1C3

Seriously - please fix the thumbs up thumbs down ratings system for the comments.

It used to be a great way of sorting the idiots from the fun and informative. It made your comments section really good and well worth reading. Now i'm using the site less because I just can't be bothered reading all the comments.

After you have fixed the thumbs out thumbs down ratings system in the comments section you might want to consider adding HQV Benchmarking ( both SD and HD ) to your graphics cards reviews and charts. This would really distinguish you above the crowd of IT related sites.

Reply to someoneelse

The thumbs up/down problem will not be fixed (at least for now) because there is a new software platform in the works that is taking development priority. I am not entirely sure if it will include a replacement for the current comments section, but it not I would assume that the problem will be fixed after the software is implemented.

Reply to randoMIZER
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D1RTYJU1C3 wrote :

I think there should be a benchmarking section in the forums, with several different benchmarks like the 3Dmark and PCmark series, Unigine, Luxmark, and SuperPI. There are several more that could be added but these are just a few.



Isnt there a Benchmarking Section somewhere on the site, cause they talk about Benchmarking, yes? But the articles are placed where?

Im not sure where excatly to be honest, but ive done my searches on the topic before.

Think its part of the site hard to get too honestly.

This link might be helpful.
http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,2977.html

The chart you are looking for i cant find off hand either to say, in terms of ideas. But should be in there somewhere.

But on the idea of benchmarking, is a lose though. But was there at one time, thats for sure. Was one of the only reasons why i was here when i first signed-up.


Message edited by K-zon on 07-21-2011 at 11:34:49 PM
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But dont forget, Benching marking probably isnt very important.

Reply to K-zon

Style & IT Pro need a comments section. Comments are half the value of sites like this. I'm thinking I won't bother reading style or IT pro topics if there's no feedback.

I notice you have a "radiation bracelet" Tom's Style entry. It reads like an ad, has false-to-the-point-of-harmful information, and no way for aware readers to point this out.

It almost appears as if articles like the above are actually paid ads that prefer to be on a site protected from user-comment scrutiny? This may be false, but how would I know.


As for disabling comments to prevent flaming, nobody's forcing anyone to read the comments section.

Reply to doorspawn

1) Ged rid of Gruener

2) Allow editing comments on Tom's Guide (so far it's only possible on Tom's hardware)

3) More build/hardware/benchmark articles, less phone/tablet BS

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^ I agree with #2 and #3; I think the attitude expressed in #1 could be "cured" by directing Mr. Gruener's talents back into the mainstream, perhaps as part of #3.

Reply to jtt283

jtt283 wrote :

^ I agree with #2 and #3; I think the attitude expressed in #1 could be "cured" by directing Mr. Gruener's talents back into the mainstream, perhaps as part of #3.



That would be a less radical solution, yes. However, with his level of tablet and iPhone addiction I doubt he can even touch a desktop anymore :lol:

Two more things: first, could we perhaps see some gaming peripherals comparison? (headphones, keyboards, speakers, etc.) Not sure if it was mentioned. Second: more addon cards (PCI-E Wi-Fi, for example, RAID controllers, etc.) performance comparison - I already saw an article about RAID controllers and I liked it, I want moar.

As a bonus: more crazy unlocking research similar to flashing 6950 to 6970... maybe unlock a Core i7-2600/i5-2500 with a pencil, like it was done with AMD CPUs in the old days? :) Surely there's something crazy like that to be explored...

Oh yeah, and I fully support LCD roundup, old CPUs+new GPUs benchmarks and server hardware comparison. I'd like to learn more about server parts (Xeons, dual-CPU boards, ECC RAM, etc.) - I'm pretty good with consumer/gaming desktops, not bad with laptops but I'm clueless about servers :D

And I really appreciate what Tom's is doing here. I looked through some older request threads and most article requests were satisfied. Keep up the good work!

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Reply to amk-aka-phantom

amk-aka-phantom wrote :

1) Ged rid of Gruener

2) Allow editing comments on Tom's Guide (so far it's only possible on Tom's hardware)

3) More build/hardware/benchmark articles, less phone/tablet BS



I think that the first one is a little harsh but definitively I couldn't agree more with #3. Tom's Hrdware used to be the only place where I would read tech news, but after reading so many complains about the iPhone articles in every single one, and reading about the delay in days with the "news" I started going to other websites. I didn't know there were a lot of news about hardware besides iphones and ipads!

If people is asking a lot to put less iPhone and articles more relevant to this kind of website, why don't they do it. or at least create the "iPhone or smartphone" section.

I stopped reading iphone articles a while ago. I'm not interested in whatever they say.

Reply to victorintelr

My suggestion is that the AMD Fusion APUs should be thrown some where in those CPU and GPU hierarchy charts for comparision sakes. How the CPU part and GPU part of the APUs compare to stand alone CPUs and GPUs.

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Reply to gametstr
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Maybe as an expansion to the best GPU of the month series to focus on how important monitor resolution is to take benefit from high power GPU's. Maybe work that into the hierarchy charts.

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All,

I'd love to see a comprehensive review of HTPCs. Very few sites (none that I've found) have a recent article on the considerations, requirements, and reviews of the top 2 to 4 technology options when building/buying an HTPC. Initial article should review the top 3 ways that consumers buy an HTPC: 1) PC with dedicated video card, 2) PC with integrated video card, 3) pre-built PCs. Even better, have this article updated quarterly with new technology and pricing options, and with popular accessories or software packages that conveniently work with standard AV Receivers and TVs/Projectors.

Thanks guy. I really enjoy your site, and the professional presentation of the information.

Scylth

Reply to scylth

more articles on overclocking of cpu's and gpu's.

Reply to mayankleoboy1

for all articles on new architecture components like sbe, ib etc, i would like a new type of comparison:

 

how much should the older tech be overclocked to get the same performance as the newer tech?
in a way it would show how fast is the newer arch instead of the older arch.

 

it would be something like a frequency equivalence of older tech components.


Message edited by mayankleoboy1 on 11-12-2011 at 06:19:27 AM
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It is the best way to sort of fun and informative idiot. It makes your opinion very good, well worth reading. Now I use the site, because I just do not bother to read all comments.The the best way to achieve this, I believe, is to create a system user-submitted benchmark results, like "Crysis" workbench tools. If the user submitted data, and then basically every combination of the coverage, no time, and testing by the yous hours.

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