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Strange corruption... dead or fixable/repairable?

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December 2, 2006 2:12:04 PM

Hi!

So recently I got an asus V9999TD (6800, 128MB DDR).
However, there are some problems...

Upon booting and entering mobo bios, it looks all corrupted with pixels all
over the place, making it unreadable.
When I entered windows with drivers, pink/green/purple lines started
popping up, and then the monitor turned off.
It's not overheating, there's an AC nv Silencer 5 with AS Céramique.

However, if I uninstall the drivers, windows looks ok, but I still can't get
the bios screen to work. Without drivers, Everest shows the card clocked
at 200/200*2.

My guess is that the previous owner tried flashing it to gt or something,
and the card wouldn't take it, especially the ram, as this type of corruption
sounds like ram problems. I'll try flashing it back as soon as I get a
pci card.

So what do you think?
Are there any chances of recovering this card?
Or can I have this repaired?

Thanks in advance :) 
December 2, 2006 3:56:02 PM

first, where did you get this card and how much did you buy it for? If you can return it, that would be the best thing to do.

second, that does sound like a problem with the ram, chances are that if the previous owner tried to bios flash it or overclocked it too high, the damage could be irreversible. But you could try flashing it back to it's original bios and see if that might help.

third, maybe your power supply cant give enough amps on the 12v rail(s) to power the card sufficiently? It's a longshot, but still a possibility. It would help if you listed the rest of the system specs.

Otherwise I'm not sure. Hopefully some other forum member can help you out if the above is not correct.

Good luck
December 2, 2006 3:56:20 PM

DP, Forums fault, I swear :oops: 

:D 
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December 2, 2006 5:44:03 PM

I see the "Error" double-post bug got everyone :D 
Thanks for sending it as pm, as well.

No, I can't return it.
Now that I have it, I'm trying to make some use of it. If I can't fix it by
putting it's original bios back, I'll try to have it repaired. Selling this as
parts and getting a new card is still more expensive.

Me too, I suspect the RAM - but: if it works without drivers, underclocked
to 200/400 and shows no artifacts, does that mean there's still a chance it
will function?
Right now I'm waiting for monday when I can get a PCI card. I'm just
curious till then what my chances are and if anyone has encountered this.

The PSU is a 400W Chieftec, with 14+15A on the 12V rails, which is ample.


Rest of the specs are:

AXP 2400+ now running at default fsb of 133 (usual is 175)
Asus A7V8X-X
1GB ram
Chieftec 400W
2xMaxtor 80 IDE
LG optical
E-MU 0404 sound
8cm fan
December 2, 2006 6:42:25 PM

BIOS and standard clocking, there may be something else broken as well.

Remember Drivers dont make a bit of difference when in BIOS, POST and boot screens. The drivers are only loaded when Windows has fully booted. This is why no matter what drivers or graphics card you have the standard VGA resolution of 640 x 480 applies before the Welcome screen.
December 2, 2006 7:17:49 PM

Well if you got it off of ebay, then you can try talking to the previous owner and see if/how much he overclocked it, and if he admits to stupidly overclocking it, and knowing that it was messed, sold it in that condition, you should leave some bad feedback for him, as a present. It's why I don't shop on ebay, at least for electronics.
December 2, 2006 9:01:14 PM

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BIOS and standard clocking, there may be something else broken as well.

Remember Drivers dont make a bit of difference when in BIOS, POST and boot screens. The drivers are only loaded when Windows has fully booted. This is why no matter what drivers or graphics card you have the standard VGA resolution of 640 x 480 applies before the Welcome screen.


This is one aspect that bugs me.
Now it works without a flaw in windows when drivers are not installed.
Refresh rate is pretty much moot, but it could display 1280*1024 (lcd
native) without a problem without drivers. Everest shows it clocked at
200/400 (stock would be 325/700). When I installed drivers, even the
640*480 mode in Windows would get corrupt shortly. But even so, the
bios screen is still messy...

Is it possible that it loads it's overwritten bios while displaying the bios
screen, that is causing the corruption in bios?
Since some bad crashes, I can't see the boot and post screens (except
when booting from floppy/cd), but the windows Loading and Welcome
screen were ok.

Well then, I'll see if the bios flash works... gotta wait till monday, though...

As for the seller, he just vanished... even deleted his email account :evil: 
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December 4, 2006 9:00:31 PM

:roll: You gotta love e-bay :twisted:
December 4, 2006 9:52:40 PM

If anything, Good luck with flashing it.

I cant remember, but doesn't PayPal have something that will refund your money if the merchandise arrives damaged and the seller refuses to contact you? I'm not sure where I remember this from, but if you payed with PayPal, you should look into this.
December 5, 2006 10:46:39 AM

Well, I found a program called NiBiTor, with which I could read the bios
from windows. And it was the original bios...
Seems like the previous (ab)user only overclocked it till it died...

Some also said that while the windows corruption with drivers looks
like ram failure, the corrupt bios screen can also mean that the gpu is
also damaged :( 

Transaction was personal meeting with cash... so no paypal, either...

Anyway, I'm trying to find a repair tech who can give me an idea on
what the problem is, if it's possible/worth it to repair it, and how much
would it cost.

As I'll have exam season in a week all through the end of January, I
think I'll just put a new pc together.

Well, we'll see.
Thanks for the posts so far!
!