Temps and oc'ing a e6300

[AleroinBlack]

Firstly, i read through Wusy's guide a few times, understand quite a bit of it, but not sure on temps and everything yet.

Setup:

E6300 w/ stock cooling
DS3
1GB OCZ Platium 4-5-4-15 ddr2800
dvdrw
4SATA drivers
ncix xion 2 case (front fan not working)
7950gt EVGA card

Successfully had 2.3ghz oc'd and working stable, but with temps that were high (speedfan=50-55c,Core temp=60-65c)
VCore was 1.75. vdimm was 2.1. everything else normal in bios.

I got to 375FSB, and temps started getting too high in Dual prime testing. Beeped. So i backed off. Lowered the vcore to 1.325, so far so good. Any suggestions on bringing temps down without aftermarket cooling? Any suggestions on other settings? My goal is 400FSB so i can run 1:1 with my ram and be at 2.8ghz. I had a 300 point increase in 3Dmark06 from stock to 2.3ghz. So id like to climb higher. Thanks in advance.

*Update* FSB375 started beeping 1.5 hours into the dual Prime tests.

 

[AleroinBlack]

I lowered my vcore to 1.275, still at 375FSB, and my temps are now a checkmark in speedfan, 44-52c max loaded with prime95's.

In a few hours ill try my goal of 400fsb.

 

[jodo]

why did you set your Vcore to 1.7???? that's insane.

first I run a e6300 at 2.8(400) with no problems, hell i was running it at 3.15(450) for quite some time until I noticed DIMM 2-4 were bad on my MB.

in CMOS you should hit CTRL+F1 to get to the extended tweaking settings.

You should manually set the Vcore to 1.325(go up 1 step if you feel your having issues). Set your ram manually to the desired speeds and make sure your running the multiplier properly so it says 800 in the box and not something else.(400fsb at auto is more than 800)

are you running 1 stick of 1GB, or 2x512MB? try putting the sticks in DIMM 2, 4 instead of 1, 3. Really what you should do is run memtest86+ in dos using 1 stick in DIMM1, then the 2nd stick in DIMM1 after to determine if you may have a RAM problem. If they both work fine then do the same thing but run the tests with the stick in DIMM 3, if you get errors you know its the DIMM not the RAM. Applying 1.7V to the core is not safe at all.

 

[jodo]

dude, don't go BELOW the stock Vcore if your OCing!!!! read more about OCing, or else your going to lose your CPU, RAM, MB.

 

[jodo]

oh im calm, but the OP does need to learn a lot more if he is going to safely OC the system without blowing out some components.

I would be careful running your RAM at 2.3V though, but if 2.1V is the rated(i know the ocz gold is 2.0, so its possible the plat is 2.1V, then 2.3 should be ok, though at 1:1 400FSB, and the ram at 800 for sure, then you should have no issues running at the SPD timings of 4-5-4-15.

Anyhow goodluck, but keep the overvolting to a minimum cuz errors in Prime95 may be telling you that one of your cores is going bad too now.

 

[jodo]

There is a thread I believe 3060 vs 6600, where DaClan compared the two processors, and they got them running at something like .675 vcore or something like that. Ask either Dario or ninja and they will tell you higher voltage doesn't always mean better, and that you can overclock well bellow stock vcore

Don't yell at people if you can't justify it

I see no such post nor after searching do I find any info about undervolting and overclocking. 1.7Volts is not good at all. Even the phase cooler guys go max to about 1.55V, im actually shocked he didn't fry the cpu on the stock cooler, but hey that's his own issue.

Do I disagree that you can undervolt and overclock, nope...but it's generally done with better than the stock cooler, to keep things stable. Undervolting is usually to lower clocks to decrease the system power output/heat since if your just doing general tasks you don't need a CPU running at 2.8Ghz or higher.

 

[lewbaseball07]

hey i oced my e6300 to 3.15ghz and voltage to 1.34 and not a single error (knock on wood..iam still testing it as we speak) in prime 95. I touched the stock heatsink and its not even warm. So 1.7 is wayyyyy too much vcore

 

[jodo]

that's not the OP your replying too but yeah 3.15 is a good result. It beats the x6800 in probably 98% of tests if its not OC'd itself, so a great result from a >200 dollar chip.

 

[rwaritsdario]

Nice to see youre following our researches and learning, but you dont have to post this much! Go out and help more ppl or try the Other forum if you wanna raise your post count 8)

 

[rwaritsdario]

The temps you were having earlier are strictly due to the Vcore, but even so 1.7v ISN'T incredibly high. Not recommended for 24/7 tough.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with any Vcore you have as long as its completely stable.
As a rule of thumb, I wouldnt advise going over 1.5v on the stock cooler. Raise it slowly and only if necessary. GL
Oh yeah, and dont trust anything else but CoreTemp and TAT for measuring temps.

 

[jodo]

actually i never read your "researches", and at 56 posts since Mar 06, im not here for post padding. Anyhow, would like to hear from the OP his results. I'm guessing he is either having a lot of problems, or realized his mistakes and is having too much fun.

 

[rwaritsdario]

0.65vCORE actually, but of course, it would shut down at the password screen. I still need some stability tests so I can do a more accurate equation of how much mileage you can get out of a Xeon.

 

[rwaritsdario]

So you've been here since march and haven't learned what the "In reply to:" line means??

 

[AleroinBlack]

Ok. I think i made a mistake. I think my vcore was at 1.375, not 1.75. I dont remember what it was at when i was having heat issues. Here are my current settings, all running stable for 24 hours, not prime95's, but just general usage/games.

7x Ratio
375 FSB
PCI-E- Auto
Memory Multiplier - 2.00
Memory Freq - 750
Timings - 5-5-5-15 (4-5-4-15 stock)
CPU Vcore - 1.2875
MCH - +.1v
FSB Overvoltage - Normal
PCI-E overvoltage - Normal
Dimm overvoltage - +.1v (2.1v stock)
CPU Warning temperature is at 60 celcius

Stable, no reboots/crashes. temps are:
Speedfan - 35c
Easytune5 (gigabyte included software) - 35c
Core Temp Beta .94 - 47c (how can this be right?)

I only want to reach 400FSB, 2.8ghz, and benchmark it. I've got a 50% increase in performance in 3Dmark06 from 1.86 to 2.62. Won't be ordering an aftermarket cooler for another week or so. I might go higher when the time comes. Sorry for the delay between postings, i went out drinking for the night. Thanks in advance guys, and yes, this is my first overclock, so please don't yell, i once read a post that said "if you can't afford to lose the part, don't overclock it." Well i could care less if i lose a $200 proc or ram, i just want to learn!

 

[rwaritsdario]

Nice Vcore for that overclock, test for stability for at least 2h tough. Give the MCH and FSB some help with the voltage when youll go over 400Mhz. The stock Vdimm is actually 1.8v standard, so youre sitting at 1.9v.

CPU Warning temperature is at 60 celcius

Override that or set it at 85c (the actual temp to avoid).

 

[AleroinBlack]

See and one poster on this thread said to stay away from undervolting, now im confused. No my stock voltage for my ram is 2.1v, so it's at 2.2v.

My Ram

Thats good i can raise the temp warning from 60c, as my prime95's started beeping at 64c during my first few runs at 375, before i backed off the vcore. I'll up the MCH another .1? ive already up'ed it .1. and the FSB i'll do too. Thanks

 

[jodo]

the +.1V for your ram in the bios is NOT from stock RAM vdimm, its from the MB's set default which is 1.9V, so you need to set it to +.3V for 2.2V

also undervolting is generally used if you want to underclock to save power/heat if all your doing is general office apps. You can also undervolt to overclock yes but its again usually used with better than stock cooling cuz you don't want to be unstable.

 

[rwaritsdario]

Core Temp Beta .94 - 47c (how can this be right?)

I'm not sure I understand this. Got a pic?

I'll up the MCH another .1? ive already up'ed it .1. and the FSB i'll do too.

As much as they need but keep it conservative. PCI-E might like a notch if youre having trouble with devices or video.

 

[AleroinBlack]

Core temp Beta 0.94 is showing Core #0 at 45c and Core #1 at 47c, where as speed fan and Easytune5 will show 34c for temp 2, which is the processor. Can't post a picture.

Thanks for the info about the ram, i'll set it to +.3v for the ram. I haven't had any trouble with the computer in terms of stability, video, performance, rebooting, just heat the first time when i had the vcore turned up (dont remember how high).

 

[rwaritsdario]

Trust only CoreTemp and Intel TAT for temps, every other programs algorithm will give up to 10c less.

 

[AleroinBlack]

Ok.

TAT Shows 46-49 idle-minimal load....so it and Core Temp are right.

Is this way too high for my current settings?

*EDIT* I set workload level to 100% for both CPU cores, and the temps are instantly rising to 63-68c. I havent changed any settings yet since my original post.