Need Motherboard To Suit CPU

[shed_performance]

Hello,
I'm building a system to upgrade from,

(Current System)
Intel P4 2.4Ghz Gigabyte GA-8SLML soc 478 1Gig DDR266 ram and Maxtor 60gig HDD DVD burner using everything else onboard video sound nic etc)

I trade the stockmarket whitch means multiple (10) streaming charts which have seperate windows, 7 applications which i flick in between constantly. It must be online 24 - 7 so heat dispation is a must.
The old system is always 100% cpu and HDD crunching away and locks up when you move the mouse to fast or change from one app to another then frees up again after 30 or so sec.

So....I have decided on a cpu the Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4Ghz 4M CACHE 1066FSB LGA 775 from the conroe family. which is about $470AUD (Australia)

And just wondering what Motherboard would complement the CPU and have no bottlenecks. Also sufficent cooling which is reasonably quite. Thinking of running 2 X 1gig corsair DDR2 XMS2-6400C4 matched pair in dual channel.

Looking for a really good combo also to future upgrade to vista and maybe the quad core. Asfore a budget around $1000AUD (less is better not millionare yet) for CPU Motherboard and RAM.
As for rest maybe pci-Xpress dual dvi video card what sort im not sure ,dual SATA2 hdd for constant backups,case,2x 19inch CHIMEI 2ms 946D LCD LG DVD burner GSA-H22L

The whole package should be around $2000 - $2500AUD
If i'm way off course please advise me as i am a novice.

Any Help would be greatly apricated,
Thankyou

 

[Manmadegod]

Not really what you were asking for but if you check out my thread on a 2k system.. It should withstand the test of time for some time to come.

 

[CompuTronix]

I've been very pleased with the hardware configuration you see below in my sig. This 975 motherboard is a great match for the 6600, and so are the 680 boards. Your graphics preferences may be a factor in determining which motherboard to purchase.

 

[tehrobzorz]

p5b deluxe can be found at msy nsw for around $300 its one of the best suiting boards for c2d.


stockmarket? i guess no games.. ill then reccomend a 7600gs 2 dvi high res monitor support

ill post more but im bz right now cyaz

 

[shed_performance]

Manmadegod,
Thanks for the thread, what a great system.
I checked out the prices at www.gamedude.com.au and sadly its way out of my price range or am i shoping at the wrong place? or was the quote in US dollars?

Thanks

 

[Manmadegod]

Oh, I get my stuff mostly from www.newegg.com so you may wanna give them a check.

 

[shed_performance]

CompuTronix,
Thanks for the input, as for a video card, well i wont be gaming but the charts must be high res its kinda like CAD or some other drawing program web design in a way im not sure about the performance diffrence the pci x nvidia and the pci x ati how many meg do i need for dual dvi monitors?

Thanks

 

[shed_performance]

tehrobzorz,
thanks for the advice, so the p965 chipset works well with the E6600, this is what confuised me from the start some say P975x and P680 chipsets. I'm not going to overclock the chip just need rock solid stable purr like a kitten deal all day everyday and night. never gets turned off.
would this board still be the best choice?

Thanks

 

[tehrobzorz]

ok now im back.

shop at msy they have the lowest prices in australia

as for your video card 7600gt will be sufficient. its 265mb and goes for around $250 aus

the gs is agp version i believe and the gt is better anyways.

ram you can go for generic 1GB for about $130

asus dvd drive is $45 very good and very quite ( compared to pioneer omg )



i really dnt see why you need all the high end stuff for somthing thats just going to stream data. sure it may be on 24/7 but still it doesnt need to be
$350 sticks of ram which isnt even going to be utilised to its full potential. save a few dollars and buy a professional looking case eg. antec p180. now that case is pure ownage ( not sure if you understand this vocab) and goes for $214. many many people will say its overpriced etc but it reallly isnt and is worth every cent.

2 seagate baracudas 250gig yeah? no more than $280
and 2 of those monitors will be around $ 900

i cbb adding it up but yeah. save some money on the ram and cpu and all will be well =]




[edit] yeah it is btw its the 680i chupset not p680
p5b deluxe will last you for many years to come.

 

[shed_performance]

tehrobzorz,
i think i understand the vocab, the streaming dosent kill it the apps do. As for the stuff like the video card and motherboard etc you have to spell it out for me. like brand and model speed i'm just that unsure of what i'm buyin. i thought pci xpress would been better or overkill?

sorry to be a pain

Thanks

 

[tehrobzorz]

tats alright im always happy to help build comps =D

mobo: p5b deluxe -asus ( very very very good brand i love them ) $300
cpu : e6600 ( as youve chosen ) $454
ram: ocz pc5400 665 $330 ( or if your really botherd get the pc6400 xtx ocz its $390)
video: nvidia 7600gt -asus (will do all yyour stuff..iunno how much cad needs high end so yeah ) $209

case: antec p180 $214 (you cant go wrong with this)
power : antec smart power 2 500w (it can handle all this $111
hdd: 2x seagate 300gb sata2 $266
monitor: 2x chimei 19in $570
optical : asus drw p2s or somthing $45 (worth every cent like all asus products)

annnnd your q about pciexpres :

its a socket so i dont really see how it can be overkill. plus all conroes have the pcix anyways so yeah. agp is dead now so dnt be bothered with it unless your cheap and dnt have enough money for a complete system overhaul.

no pain =] sory bout the wait

 

[shed_performance]

tehrobzorz,
Not quite sure what this means,

[edit] yeah it is btw its the 680i chupset not p680
p5b deluxe will last you for many years to come.

I thought the p5b deluxe came with the Intel® P965 chipset
or have i muddled things up here?

How about this how would you spend the $2000 - $2500AUD on building and machine for what i do with no bottlenecks fast as and be upgradable for the future to run vista and just purrs like a kitten? Clean Smooth Cool and Quite.

I won't hassell you anymore tonight just take your time, don't wana be a pain first time on here.

I really appricate your effort
Thankyou

 

[Crashman]

How many monitors?

These guys are recommending way more graphics power than you need.

 

[tehrobzorz]

yeah sorry i ddnt write it logically. the p5b deluxe does come with p965
and i said it will last you for many years to come because its a great board.

the only worthwhile board with the 680i its the asus striker extreme but you dnt need that.

How about this how would you spend the $2000 - $2500AUD on building and machine for what i do with no bottlenecks fast as and be upgradable for the future to run vista and just purrs like a kitten? Clean Smooth Cool and Quite.

as for that, i problably wouldnt.[edit] get the asus striker] but to be on the safe side i would. i dnt know how much power a cad drawing needs or constant streaming of data but the e6600 will definitely last you awhile.
upgradeable? yes. when you have the money you can go for quad core later on. but knowing intel they might just swicth sockets again for 45nm.
purrs like a kitten? well, if you put a cat inside the case and feed it.... maybe ( not a very good joke but meh..)

clean smooth quiet? YES. the p180 is amazingly quiet and is clean and smooth.
there should be no bottlenecks.
is upgradeable.
will purr if it must.
clean smooth and professional.

$2500 can buy you alot of good quality stuff these days.

how would i spend it? id possibly lean more to the workstation board like the asus p5w64 ws. but since i dnt know alot of people that have it sticking to the p5b would be best.

just a note: asus boards are really picky about ram. they are default ( i think ) at about 1.8v and most ram like the ocz are default at 2.1 so you might have trouble booting up for the first time. ask some others around the forum and they should give you the lowdown.


also if you want to spend a bit less amds x2 4400+ and higher can also fulfill your needs. sure intels got this new and fancy chip and price/performance is better but you need to know. how much performance do you NEED? ive been trying to tell people around the forums that comparing a say fx60 to a conroe and with conroe whooping its ass DOESNT MAKE AMD ANY LESS. you should also know that amd was the leader for the past few years.

so the choice is yours, if money isnt a concern then intel is the way to go.

in reply to crashman. hes going to be runnning two 19in lcds and according to shed performance, the apps need that power. i dnt know my self but i normally like to stay on the safe side to be certain nothing can go wrong.

 

[Crashman]

He's looking at 2D, doesn't need a 7600GT. Probably be better off with a 7600GS PCIe so far as heat goes, Here's a passively cooled Dual DVI model. Heck, he could probably even get buy with an X1300, and take a look to see if the X300SE might do the job.

 

[shed_performance]

tehrobzorz,
Thanks heaps for all your help and advice.
Here is a system that i have gathered together based on your and others advice. Please advise me if this combination is recomended and if things could be changed to the better (meaning more stable,cooler,realiable etc)

CPU: INTEL CORE 2 DUO E6600 2.4Ghz 4m CACHE 1066FSB LGA 775 $469

Motherboard: ASUS P5B DELUXE Intel P965 Dual-Ch.DDR2 800 SATA 8-Channel Audio Dual GBLan 8 Phase Power $309
or
ASUS P5WDG2 WS PRO WORKSTATION INTEL CORE 2 DUO READY Intel 975X Dual Channel DDR2 Dual PCI-E $435
or
ASUS S775, Quad Core, nF680i-SLI, 2x PCIex16, RAID, 2x Gigabit LAN, 1394a, ATX (STRIKER-EXTREME) $625
or
ASUS P5W DH Deluxe – 975x Conroe $350

RAM: 2G Kit OCZ DDR2 800 PC6400 Gold XTC $395
or
CORSAIR TwinX 1gig x 2 (2 Gig) DDR2 XMS2-6400C4 800mhz Matched Pair $499
or
CORSAIR TwinX 1gig x 2 (2 Gig) DDR2 XMS2-6400 800mhz Matched Pair $465
or
GEIL TWIN PACK VALUE SERIES 2x 1gig (2gig Total) DDR800 PC2-6400
Item Code memGEtw_d2_2_800
GEIL TWIN PACK VALUE SERIES 2x 1gig (2gig Total) DDR800 PC2-6400
Hand-picked BGA 64Mx8 Chips
240pin, Non-ECC, Un-buffered DDR DIMM
Brushed Aluminum Heat Spreader
Retail Package
Working Voltage: 1.8v ± 0.1v

Price $ 389


Video Card: ASUS EN7600GT SILENT 256meg DDR3 Dual DVI HDTV-Out PCI-E Model: EN7600GT SILENT/2DHT/256M/A $249

HDD: SeaGate 250 gig 7200rpm SATA-2 NCQ 16meg Cache 7200.10 $115 x2 = $230 for constant backups

Monitor: 19inch CMV Chimei TFT WIDE SCREEN WXGA 1440x900 DVI 2ms Response Model: 946D $335 x2 = $670

PSU: Antec 500watt Smart Power ver2.0 MODEL : SP-500 $125

Case: ANTEC P180 ATX Midi Tower BLACK No PSU Front mounted USB, IEEE 1394 (FireWire �,i.Link �) & Audi $219

DVD Burner: ASUS 16x BLACK DVD +/- R, Model DRW-1608P3S 5x DVD RAM $49

Keyboard and Mouse: all ready have Keyboard ps2 and mouse usb

Speakers: just some 2.1 system prob creative or something nothing flash
Hope i done it right ( fingers crossed)

also are all the cables included for hdd, vided card power from wall etc?
and am i missing anything i will run windows xp pro as a operating system.

Budget blown out to around $2700 trying to keep it at $2500 max or under is good too.

I will shop around for best prices in brisbane.

Thanks again for all your help greatly appricated.

 

[Crashman]

I'd still suggest saving around $135 and around 30% in heat by going with a passively cooled 7600GS PCI-Express card.

You're not going to see much difference between DDR2-800 and DDR2-667. I'd suggest DDR2-667 CAS3 if you want something "really fast" or DDR2-667 CAS4 if you're not going to notice a 1% peak performance difference.

 

[tehrobzorz]

best prices are in msy i can reallly tell you that with confidence. also i agree with crashman, you dnt really need ddr2 800. also i think going with 667 is better cause isnt intel upgrading their fsb to 333mhz? so then your ram can be synchronous( i think ..).

never ever spend more than $350 on ram. cause its just ram?

dnt wory about the striker. way to much

dont worry about corsair ether i mean $500? cmon.

you can find those monitors for $290each at msy

that should get the price back to $2500

since you have the money go with the 7600gt. if you want to spend less, gs will also do just fine. ( BTW DNT GET THE SILIENT ONES THEY REACH 90C ON HOT DAYS AND WE BOTH KNOW AUS CAN GET REALLY WAMR =] ) advice for you.

 

[shed_performance]

Crashman,
Thanks again for the advice, for the video card what brand and model for the passive cooled video card. i'm talking about model numbers etc i dont know what im looking at and how much ram with the card?

Also with the ram, Brand and what is CAS3 and CAS4 is that model,speed brand?

Thanks for the help

 

[shed_performance]

tehrobzorz,
Thanks for all the help you have given me.

And video card Brand Model Amount of ram on board mode number etc?
Also the amount of RAM and what brand for the 1.8v or what ever suits the board and chip best, model brand amount speed model number etc?
And would you go for the moniters iv'e chosen or are they crap? Any you would recommend, brand,model number msec time etc

Thanks for all your help

 

[tehrobzorz]

ive got mushkin ddr2 5400 667mhz

any brand such as gigabyte,asus,bfg,xfx or evga. the 7600gt/gs has 256mb of ram.

annd yeah

ill get exact details later.. not enough time now soz lol cyaz

 

[shed_performance]

tehrobzorz,
That would be awesome, greatly appreciated.

also are you sure 256mb would be ample?

Thanks

 

[tehrobzorz]

yes! 256 is the standard right now with 512 for more graphically intensive programs ( mostly games) .

256 will be sufficient or it you want you can get 512mb 7600gs as well.

oorrrr if you want 512 a step higher, 7900gs is also very very good. im not sure if you can get 512 ones tho .. i recall palit selling 512 versions.

oh yeah palit is a very good brand too. tho most dnt know them, they are one of the biggest oems and so they dnt sell like the majorbrands.

palit or xpertvision are same thing. i would go for them for their value ( price) because after all the gpu cores are made by nvidia right> so there should be no difference.

 

[shed_performance]

I would like to thankyou for all your help time and advice. Also to everyone else for all there time and effort in helping me build my first machine.

Thanks again

Cheers

 

[tehrobzorz]

so everything works yeah? ^^