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help with amd athlon xp chipupgrade,ram,video,sound sata

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December 8, 2006 6:40:09 AM

I am fairly new to this upgradeing stuff because I have been out of the loop for 4 years. I currently have a 350 wat power supply, a nec 3540A dvd -/=rw and a liteon 52246s cd writer. my motherboard is a MSI MS- 6570 Nforce 1 or 2 chipset, with a cpu of 1800+ with 64+64+256 cache. my fsb is 333. MY video card is a radion 9800 pro with 128 megs of ram on a AGP slot. I have PD2100 ram (1.1 gig). the sound is built in and so it the lan. ata only on motherboard. I am on a fixed income(social security disability). I would like an opinion about doing a slow upgrade until I can afford a better system. I do gaming alot and video editing from our camra and music. I am interested in security + (CPENS) and want to do some thing to improve the system slowly. maybe a gig network card ( maybe two and what type) and a sound card to. I have heard about SATA 1,2,3 and PATA and I am not sure what it will help with.(and what it exactly does either) my hard drive is a w/d 120 gig hard drive. I am interested in any reply and it is greatly appriciated. ( I am interested in online gaming as well and have a couple older systems I will list later for help and advice on. also where is the best sites for the best deals and what should I look for? the most cashe, highest chip my board can handle, I am not sure.

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speedbump1963

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December 8, 2006 5:51:33 PM

Start with your Motherboard. Check manual carefully, and chech MSI website to see what will be the limitations and compatibilities.

Then you will have a better idea of what you can re-use.

Maybe you will discover you have very little upgrade path, and will be able to start all over again!

I can see you have set yourself quite an interesting task.

Good Luck. :D 
December 8, 2006 6:31:44 PM

For socket A, the best chip would be the AthlonXP 3200+, which would run at 2.2GHz with 512KB cache and 400MHz FSB. Since they are no longer made, socket A processors are expensive (my XP2800 was $170CAD 2 1/2 years ago and now it would be hard to get one under $140CAD even though parts usually drop rapidly in price - I could use a cheap athlon to replace a duron800 in my linux server). A socket AM2 sempron goes here for $50CAD.

$40 Sempron 2800+ AM2 ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681... )
$64 GIGABYTE GA-M61VME-S2 AM2 ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681... )

So theinvestment now is low, but allows a newer socket to drop in a better processor next year and has integrated video that is good for now with an empty pci-e x16 slot to put in a video card when you can afford it. I think this is a nice way to go about an upgrade for what you describe.

Jo
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December 8, 2006 7:42:21 PM

If you could pick up an Athlon XP Batrton CPU like a 2500+ that would give a nice boost to your system. But...............my advice to you is to start saving your money even if you have to save it for a year and then get a decent budget system based upon whatever the best budget system might be a year from now.

Good Luck!
December 8, 2006 7:52:12 PM

if you can sell your old PC and buy a new one, that would be the best choice. tell us what is your budget and we'll give you an advice about your next purchase,
December 11, 2006 5:37:28 AM

My Motherboard is 333 front side bus and can handle a socket a chip up to 333mhz fsb. It can only expand to 2200mhz. I would like to know what chip to get for the socket a and which is better 512 or 256 cache and what manufacturer of ram would be best 333 ddr 184 pin. thanks!speedbump1963
December 11, 2006 5:51:36 AM

Dude, sell and rebuild. It's not worth the money to blow it on ANY Athlon XP. Athlon XP = obsolete. Ancient. Not worth your money.

I suggest you overclock instead. The CPU is hardly ever a bottleneck in gaming.
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December 11, 2006 5:57:28 AM

If you can get an athlon xp for a really good deal then go for that, otherwise try and sell and start over like others have said.
December 11, 2006 5:59:08 AM

By really good deal, I think you mean <$30, right?
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December 11, 2006 8:55:53 PM

No I was thinking more <$50 for a high end (if you can call them that) athlon XP, but I suppose, if I'm talking $AU, then that ends up being about $US40 anyway. So anything <=$US40 is a pretty good deal for a high-end XP.

EDIT: Considering the price of them brand new, and the price of whole system rebuild
December 11, 2006 9:51:57 PM

From a quick scan on ebay, I gather:

XP 2800+ $100US
XP 3200+ $150US

Plus shipping! And they are getting bids! You are right though, a good deal would be $40US but I haven't found any even close to that low.

Jo
December 11, 2006 10:10:34 PM

Your motherboard will support 400fsb speeds. Do you have the cpu overclocked? The 1800+ is running at 133 but will prob hit 166. Not sure if your memory will keep up. I have a 2500+ Barton running at 400fsb on a MSI K7N2 Delta board similar to what you have. But I have DDR 3200 memory for it.

So you would need to get faster memory as well. Just save your money and if money is that tight get a 939 or a 754 cpu. A 939 would be better. Check the prices on newegg.
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December 11, 2006 10:14:57 PM

Plus 939 boards are much easier to find, and the 754s that are available are budget at best. At least thats how it is in Aus anyway 8)
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