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KABUL, Afghanistan - Afghan President Hamid Karzai criticized the U.S. and British conduct of the war in Afghanistan, insisting that his government must be accorded the lead in policy decisions.

In a New York Times interview published on Saturday, Karzai said he wanted U.S. forces to stop arresting suspected Taliban members and their sympathizers, saying that fear of arrest along with past mistreatment were discouraging them from coming forward and laying down their arms....



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Sure Hamid, good luck with that ... :lol:

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Reply to mrface

You may laugh Jake but I'd suggest you take a look at the way the UK government managed to get things moving towards peace in Northern Ireland before you judge the comments to harshly. There is actually some truth in what the man is saying.

Reply to audiovoodoo

We all would love to put this to rest, the taliban are the ones that started the BS and now they have no control over the middle east and people start crying poor taliban, think of the 100s of thousands that have been killed before the war even started. the millions of familys affected before the war started.

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Reply to gomerpile

audiovoodoo wrote :

You may laugh Jake but I'd suggest you take a look at the way the UK government managed to get things moving towards peace in Northern Ireland before you judge the comments to harshly. There is actually some truth in what the man is saying.


Let's see AV, one day Karzai wants us to stop targeting those murderous thugs ... I suppose he wants a big group hug or something ... and they pay him back for his kind words by, oh ... just trying to kill him ... but hey, it's the US and the Brits fault right?

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KABUL, Afghanistan (CNN) -- Taliban militants opened fire at a military ceremony in the capital Sunday morning. A lawmaker, tribal leader and 10-year-old child were killed, but President Hamid Karzai escaped unhurt, according to an official and a statement from Karzai's office.

The attack also wounded more than 12 people, including a member of parliament, a Health Ministry official said.

The attack occurred at a Mujahedeen Victory Day ceremony, observing the 16th anniversary of Afghanistan mujahedeen fighters' overthrow of President Mohammad Najibullah's Soviet-backed regime.


Karzai escapes deadly Taliban attack

But, I won't be sarcastic this time ... just point out that Hamid Karzai is only alive because of his "US bought" security team.

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Reply to Jake_Barnes

There is only one way to a lasting peace in the middle east. Exterminate everyone. They are, have been, and always be bitter enemies who swap allegiances solely as a matter of convenience, not in search of peace

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Reply to turpit

Heck, exterminate all of mankind while you're at it.

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Reply to Evilonigiri

Hear! Hear!

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Reply to mugz

I donno, I got a fcking war wiff a huge ant hill in my back yard the ants are taking my back yard fck. so far the back yard is a big hole and still digging.
the ants aint sharing this http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3374/p2200020ta1.jpg


Message edited by gomerpile on 04-28-2008 at 10:17:52 AM
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Reply to gomerpile

Jake, did you actually take the time to look at the history of NI and what went on before you came back at me with that one? You seem set on vengeance rather than attaining a lasting peace. If you fail to engage with these people and create an atmosphere in which dialogue can actually take place all you create is more hate and more violence.

It amuses me that somebody that will gladly defend the second amendment right of your country men to hold arms is so hell bent against allowing that for people of another nation. If somebody entered your country by force and started shooting at you what the fcuk would you be doing? Forget the rights and wrongs for just one second and think about human nature.

The British government had to swallow hard, people on both sides had to get over the natural instinct to keep blowing the crap out of each other. We had years of what was effectively civil war. We lost good men on both sides. It has only been through engaging with people and establishing a dialogue that we will attain any form of lasting peace.

I'm not saying either side is right or wrong. Frankly I think all parties are behaving with the intelligence of a 5yr old. But come on, we are supposed to be representing the greatest democracies on the planet. A system where we avoid internal conflict through dialogue rather than shooting. Let's just for once be the truly bigger nations.

Reply to audiovoodoo

Both sides are wrong. Kill 'em all.

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Reply to mugz

gives mugz red arse wiff the fishing pole

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Reply to gomerpile

** Wonders how Metalica is going to help matters **

Reply to audiovoodoo

Metallica helps everything!

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Reply to JustPlainJef

Seek And Destroy the mofo's.

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shapeless and faceless - Yet I have a name,
I shall tighten my grip on your now flawed creation,
endeavour to show you the meaning of pain.'
Reply to RobD

audiovoodoo wrote :

** Wonders how Metalica is going to help matters **

 

Nothing else matters.

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Reply to Ninjahedge

My money is on that planet killing asteroid that's bound to wipe us out.

Reply to Anoobis

Will the asteroid hunt us wherever we may roam?

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Reply to JustPlainJef

I think it'll cause a Bliztkrieg and show us No Remorse.

------------------------------ 'Out of the abyss I come the avenger
shapeless and faceless - Yet I have a name,
I shall tighten my grip on your now flawed creation,
endeavour to show you the meaning of pain.'
Reply to RobD

Quote :

I stalk close in from above
Silent wings will test your faith
Death will never hear me pass
Launch attack you're too late
I hear flak inside my head
Deafening thunder cities burn
Carpet-bombing laid to waste
Throwned inside a death mask
Holy cross embedded in your tomb
Casualities are buried through your mind
Certain death is screaming from the sky
I live to destroy below
Hunted victims are unseen
Flying wrath a fortress hell
War machine to kill all
I leave carnage in my wake
Choking bleeding for your life
Faceless prey has been erased
Silence reigns you're dead now
Holy cross embedded in your tomb
Casualities are buried through your mind
Certain death is screaming from the sky


Metallica is dead to me.

Reply to Anoobis

WTF is that?

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Reply to JustPlainJef

Rob, if we had some Anesthesia, it may not Hurt (NIN) as much.

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Reply to JustPlainJef

It's a Slayer track, Screaming from The Sky.

Now, we could suffer a Napalm Death and end up simply as a rotting Carcass.

------------------------------ 'Out of the abyss I come the avenger
shapeless and faceless - Yet I have a name,
I shall tighten my grip on your now flawed creation,
endeavour to show you the meaning of pain.'
Reply to RobD

Or we'll end up Trashed, Lost and Strungout. Like AV.

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Reply to mugz

It would more likely be a Nuclear Assault.

Reply to audiovoodoo

Which would lead to A Day of Reckoning, followed by The New Order. [/old skool]

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No longer will I follow.
Can anybody hear me?
I just want to be me.
Reply to JustPlainJef

And eventually, Downfall. [/depressed]

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Reply to mugz

mugz wrote :

Or we'll end up Trashed, Lost and Strungout. Like AV.



Tell me about it... Woken up at 8am this morning by an agency wanting to talk to me about a couple of jobs. I should be happy that there is a serious prospect of some work, but it's yet more crappy low paid stuff and I'm just not that enthused at more crap for less money than I need.

I'm seriously wondering about pulling a Smart and just blagging the fockers into submission... :heink:

Reply to audiovoodoo

It would indeed be the Smart thing to do.[/highly recommended]

Reply to Tom_Smart

I think our Lord is exhibiting Suicidal Tendencies.

@AV.. It's worth a shot, like the ad says, what's the worst that could happen?

------------------------------ 'Out of the abyss I come the avenger
shapeless and faceless - Yet I have a name,
I shall tighten my grip on your now flawed creation,
endeavour to show you the meaning of pain.'
Reply to RobD

Well, I'm not sure if I shared, but the wife finally got a job.


At a $15K / year paycut.

Then she took another job with a small law firm that I do some side work for. Pay is pretty much the same, but I think it will be better for the future, not locked into the 3% raises per year and what not...

So we are going to have to tighten the belts significantly...

------------------------------ No more promise no more sorrow,
No longer will I follow.
Can anybody hear me?
I just want to be me.
Reply to JustPlainJef

AV, maybe you could serve them dinner with a high level of Toxicity.

------------------------------ No more promise no more sorrow,
No longer will I follow.
Can anybody hear me?
I just want to be me.
Reply to JustPlainJef

There's a War Inside My Head. [/goes for the Painkiller]

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Reply to mugz

There's something dead in my hole [/J&M Chain]

Reply to WingDing

a planetarium explosion hole

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Reply to gomerpile

You know me so well.

Reply to WingDing

I don't want to know.

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Reply to mugz

Mandatory Suicide is preferable than going near that hole.

------------------------------ 'Out of the abyss I come the avenger
shapeless and faceless - Yet I have a name,
I shall tighten my grip on your now flawed creation,
endeavour to show you the meaning of pain.'
Reply to RobD

Then you could be Comfortably Numb, Waiting for the Worms In the Flesh to Stop eating you from the inside out.

------------------------------ No more promise no more sorrow,
No longer will I follow.
Can anybody hear me?
I just want to be me.
Reply to JustPlainJef

As Wingy is clearly Criminally Insane, he'll perform a Postmortem, Piece by Piece. Then, when we're effectively Live Undead, he'll Show No Mercy, that damned Aggressive Perfector.

------------------------------ 'Out of the abyss I come the avenger
shapeless and faceless - Yet I have a name,
I shall tighten my grip on your now flawed creation,
endeavour to show you the meaning of pain.'
Reply to RobD

Right...

That one went right over my head. I'm Sweating Bullets that I'll be ratted out!

------------------------------ No more promise no more sorrow,
No longer will I follow.
Can anybody hear me?
I just want to be me.
Reply to JustPlainJef

...*cough cough*... Slayer songs ...*cough cough*...

Even In My Darkest Hour I never thought you'd miss those...

------------------------------ 'Out of the abyss I come the avenger
shapeless and faceless - Yet I have a name,
I shall tighten my grip on your now flawed creation,
endeavour to show you the meaning of pain.'
Reply to RobD

I got that, though I only spotted on song and figured out the rest.

Reply to Tom_Smart

You were spot on for one song?


I never really got into Slayer...

...*cries*...

Don't hate me!

------------------------------ No more promise no more sorrow,
No longer will I follow.
Can anybody hear me?
I just want to be me.
Reply to JustPlainJef

Never got into Slayer... don't make me resort to Vio-lence here Jef....

------------------------------ 'Out of the abyss I come the avenger
shapeless and faceless - Yet I have a name,
I shall tighten my grip on your now flawed creation,
endeavour to show you the meaning of pain.'
Reply to RobD

Initially I thought of Alice cooper 'Millie And Billie' has the lyric 'Criminally insane'.

Reply to Tom_Smart

I'd forgotten about the mighty Coop. Nicely reminded there Tom.


Message edited by RobD on 04-29-2008 at 04:07:11 PM
------------------------------ 'Out of the abyss I come the avenger
shapeless and faceless - Yet I have a name,
I shall tighten my grip on your now flawed creation,
endeavour to show you the meaning of pain.'
Reply to RobD

Rock and Roll Ain't Noise Pollution.

Reply to audiovoodoo

*lurks In The Shadows*

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Reply to mugz

...*avoids inevitable Chimp/Monkees gag*...

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shapeless and faceless - Yet I have a name,
I shall tighten my grip on your now flawed creation,
endeavour to show you the meaning of pain.'
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