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Anonymous
January 8, 2005 4:41:13 PM

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Can anyone point me in the right direction of a how-to article on setting up
a XP/W98se dual boot? Also, are there any pitfalls I should know about
before hand. My current OS is the XP Home Edition.

Thanks

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Anonymous
January 8, 2005 4:41:14 PM

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Each operating system needs to be installed on its own
individual partition.

Multibooting with Windows XP: Introduction
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/setup/learnmor...

HOW TO: Create a Multiple-Boot System in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;306559&Product=winxp

How do I install Windows 98/Me after I've installed XP?
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_repair_9x.htm

A good third-party partitioning program is Partition Magic 8.
http://www.powerquest.com/partitionmagic/

--
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Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
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"The Truth" wrote:

| Can anyone point me in the right direction of a how-to article on setting up
| a XP/W98se dual boot? Also, are there any pitfalls I should know about
| before hand. My current OS is the XP Home Edition.
|
| Thanks
Anonymous
January 8, 2005 4:41:14 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics (More info?)

The Truth wrote:
> Can anyone point me in the right direction of a how-to article on setting up
> a XP/W98se dual boot? Also, are there any pitfalls I should know about
> before hand. My current OS is the XP Home Edition.
>
> Thanks
>
>


The simplest way I've found to dual boot between Win9x/Me and WinXP
would be to partition your drive(s) roughly as follows:

C: Primary FAT32 Win9x/Me/Legacy Apps
D: Extended NTFS WinXP/Modern Apps

Adjust the partition sizes according to your actual hard drive(s)
size and the amount of space you'd like to allocate to each OS and its
applications.

Create the partitions using Win9x's FDISK so you can enable large
disk support (FAT32). (No need for 3rd party partitioning
utilities/boot managers and their frequent complications.)

Install Win9x/Me first, being sure to select "C:\Windows" (or
D:\Windows, if you prefer) when asked for the default Windows
directory. When you subsequently install WinXP, be sure to specify
"D:\Winnt" (or "D:\Windows," "C:\Winnt" as referred/applicable) when
asked for the default Windows directory, to place it in the other
partition. The WinXP installation routine will automatically set up a
Multi-boot menu for you. The default settings for this menu can be
readily edited from within WinXP. NOTE: If you elect to place
Win9x/Me on the "D:" drive, you'll _have_ to leave the "C:" drive as
FAT32.

This method can be adapted to using 2 physical hard drives by
placing the boot partition (C:, which still must be FAT32) and either
of the operating systems on the Primary Master hard drive, and the
second operating system on the second hard drive.

It is also possible to have a 3rd partition for shared
applications, but it would be necessary for such a partition to be
formatted in the common file format (FAT32). The applications would
also have to be installed into each OS (to ensure proper system file
placement and registry updates), one at a time, but the bulk of the
program files could be located on this common partition. I do not,
however, actually recommend doing this as, if you were to uninstall
such an application from one OS, you may not be able to gracefully
uninstall it from the second OS, having already deleted crucial
installation data during the first uninstall action.

Just about everything you need to know (URLs may wrap):

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q217/2...

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/gett...


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Anonymous
January 8, 2005 4:41:14 PM

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Dual boot can be unstable and when something goes wrong it is very
frustrating to fix. Back ups of both partitions are essential.

Another approach would be Microsoft Virtual PC 2004. It was written to do
away with the need for dual booting or separate hardware.

VPC will run on XP Home but is not supported by Microsoft (phone help, etc).
Nevertheless, under VPC you could run a Win98 computer in a window on your
XP desktop. You can download a trial version of VPC and try it out before
committing, since if the Win98 apps don't run to your satisfaction, you can
simply delete the Win98 computer like you would any other file. You should
be running at least 384MB ram in order to allow 128mb or more for the Win98
guest computer.

A real plus is that you could do the same thing with Linux and other Windows
versions, all on the same computer. I presently have several dozen virtual
machines available on my XP Pro system. Since I have lots of memory and a
fast processor I sometimes run several at the some time. It is nice to stay
in XP and Win98 at the same time instead of having to reboot.



--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
"The Truth" <truth@Elkestr.com> wrote in message
news:eGP5eGb9EHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Can anyone point me in the right direction of a how-to article on setting
> up
> a XP/W98se dual boot? Also, are there any pitfalls I should know about
> before hand. My current OS is the XP Home Edition.
>
> Thanks
>
>
Anonymous
January 8, 2005 8:44:41 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics (More info?)

Hi, Truth.

No need for a whole article, really. It's quite simple, when you are
starting from scratch.

Step 1: Install Win9x/ME.

Step 2: Install WinXP into a second partition.

Done! WinXP Setup will have detected the existing Win9x/ME and created all
you need for dual-booting. :<)

But, if you are not starting from scratch, or if you are installing non-MS
operating systems (such as Linux), then it can get a lot more complicated.
:>( Or, it may be only slightly more difficult than starting from scratch,
IF your existing Drive C: is formatted FATxx.

Remember that Win9x/ME can't read, write, boot from or even SEE an NTFS
volume. From this basic fact, several other rules naturally follow: The
System Partition (the Active partition on the first physical HD, almost
always Drive C:)  must be FAT, otherwise Win9x/ME can't boot at all, no
matter which volume you try to install it into. Win9x/ME's boot volume must
be FAT. Any volume holding files that you want to access from Win9x/ME must
be FAT.

Since you already have only WinXP installed, your Drive C: probably is
formatted NTFS. To install Win98, you will need to convert Drive C: to FAT.
But Microsoft provides no way to do this. Convert.exe is a one-way street:
It converts FAT to NTFS, but not vice-versa. That leaves you with only two
choices:
1. Invest your time: backup; reformat; restore, or
2. Invest your money: buy Partition Magic or some similar program which
will convert NTFS to FAT

If Drive C: is FAT, then you may be able to simply install Win98 into any
FAT volume in your computer that does not already hold WinXP. This will
leave you able to boot into Win98, but unable to boot into WinXP. That's
easily fixed, though, by booting from the WinXP CD-ROM and running the
Recovery Console's FixBoot and BootCfg commands.

To recap: To install dual-boot into a new computer is easy. To add
Win9x/ME to a computer that has WinXP already installed usually is possible,
but it can be a real headache.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@corridor.net
Microsoft Windows MVP

"The Truth" <truth@Elkestr.com> wrote in message
news:eGP5eGb9EHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Can anyone point me in the right direction of a how-to article on setting
> up
> a XP/W98se dual boot? Also, are there any pitfalls I should know about
> before hand. My current OS is the XP Home Edition.
>
> Thanks
Anonymous
January 8, 2005 8:44:42 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics (More info?)

Do NOT attempt to install Win98 if XP is already in place. You should
install the earlier operating system first and then the newer one.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
"R. C. White" <rc@corridor.net> wrote in message
news:o NjaHwd9EHA.3820@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Hi, Truth.
>
> No need for a whole article, really. It's quite simple, when you are
> starting from scratch.
>
> Step 1: Install Win9x/ME.
>
> Step 2: Install WinXP into a second partition.
>
> Done! WinXP Setup will have detected the existing Win9x/ME and created
> all you need for dual-booting. :<)
>
> But, if you are not starting from scratch, or if you are installing non-MS
> operating systems (such as Linux), then it can get a lot more complicated.
> :>( Or, it may be only slightly more difficult than starting from
> scratch, IF your existing Drive C: is formatted FATxx.
>
> Remember that Win9x/ME can't read, write, boot from or even SEE an NTFS
> volume. From this basic fact, several other rules naturally follow: The
> System Partition (the Active partition on the first physical HD, almost
> always Drive C:)  must be FAT, otherwise Win9x/ME can't boot at all, no
> matter which volume you try to install it into. Win9x/ME's boot volume
> must be FAT. Any volume holding files that you want to access from
> Win9x/ME must be FAT.
>
> Since you already have only WinXP installed, your Drive C: probably is
> formatted NTFS. To install Win98, you will need to convert Drive C: to
> FAT. But Microsoft provides no way to do this. Convert.exe is a one-way
> street: It converts FAT to NTFS, but not vice-versa. That leaves you with
> only two choices:
> 1. Invest your time: backup; reformat; restore, or
> 2. Invest your money: buy Partition Magic or some similar program which
> will convert NTFS to FAT
>
> If Drive C: is FAT, then you may be able to simply install Win98 into any
> FAT volume in your computer that does not already hold WinXP. This will
> leave you able to boot into Win98, but unable to boot into WinXP. That's
> easily fixed, though, by booting from the WinXP CD-ROM and running the
> Recovery Console's FixBoot and BootCfg commands.
>
> To recap: To install dual-boot into a new computer is easy. To add
> Win9x/ME to a computer that has WinXP already installed usually is
> possible, but it can be a real headache.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@corridor.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
>
> "The Truth" <truth@Elkestr.com> wrote in message
> news:eGP5eGb9EHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Can anyone point me in the right direction of a how-to article on setting
>> up
>> a XP/W98se dual boot? Also, are there any pitfalls I should know about
>> before hand. My current OS is the XP Home Edition.
>>
>> Thanks
>
Anonymous
January 9, 2005 10:43:59 PM

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The Truth wrote:
> Can anyone point me in the right direction of a how-to article on
> setting up a XP/W98se dual boot? Also, are there any pitfalls I
> should know about before hand. My current OS is the XP Home Edition.

As others have mentioned, installing 98SE after XP can cause problems. But
it should be doable. The major pitfalls are (in order): Repartitioning,
which can cause havoc on your system if you do not know what you are doing
and/or if you are unlucky (remember backups!), and boot loaders.

Windows 98 SE needs its own FAT32 partition. So you will need to have some
free space on one of your hard drives. This partition also needs to be a
primary partition rather than a logical partition, and it will also have to
be set to bootable from a suitable partition editor. If you can delete any
of your current partitions, or if you have free space, then this should be
no problem. If you need to resize any of your current partitions you will
need third party software, such as Partition Magic or Ghost.

The 98SE installer requires that the hard drive it is going to be installed
to is your primary master. This means that if your drive is _not_ then you
will have to physically rewire your drives during installation. Also, to
actually be able to run 98SE from anything but the primary master you will
need a boot loader that can logically swap the internal drives. LILO can do
this, other boot loaders I can not vouch for.

Even if you only wish to use the normal NT boot loader (which should be fine
for most cases), remember that the 98SE installation will overwrite any MBR
with it's own. To correct this you can use the XP installation CD, enter the
recovery console and type the command 'fixmbr'. Then you should alter your
c:\boot.ini to include your Windows 98SE installation. Of course, you can
use any other boot loader if you wish.
Anonymous
January 11, 2005 2:34:47 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics (More info?)

Thanks to all for the info., and suggestions. You've make my decision much
easier.

Truth\

"André Gulliksen" <andre.gulliksen@start.no> wrote in message
news:34dcdcF49q8cvU1@individual.net...
> The Truth wrote:
> > Can anyone point me in the right direction of a how-to article on
> > setting up a XP/W98se dual boot? Also, are there any pitfalls I
> > should know about before hand. My current OS is the XP Home Edition.
>
> As others have mentioned, installing 98SE after XP can cause problems. But
> it should be doable. The major pitfalls are (in order): Repartitioning,
> which can cause havoc on your system if you do not know what you are doing
> and/or if you are unlucky (remember backups!), and boot loaders.
>
> Windows 98 SE needs its own FAT32 partition. So you will need to have some
> free space on one of your hard drives. This partition also needs to be a
> primary partition rather than a logical partition, and it will also have
to
> be set to bootable from a suitable partition editor. If you can delete any
> of your current partitions, or if you have free space, then this should be
> no problem. If you need to resize any of your current partitions you will
> need third party software, such as Partition Magic or Ghost.
>
> The 98SE installer requires that the hard drive it is going to be
installed
> to is your primary master. This means that if your drive is _not_ then you
> will have to physically rewire your drives during installation. Also, to
> actually be able to run 98SE from anything but the primary master you will
> need a boot loader that can logically swap the internal drives. LILO can
do
> this, other boot loaders I can not vouch for.
>
> Even if you only wish to use the normal NT boot loader (which should be
fine
> for most cases), remember that the 98SE installation will overwrite any
MBR
> with it's own. To correct this you can use the XP installation CD, enter
the
> recovery console and type the command 'fixmbr'. Then you should alter your
> c:\boot.ini to include your Windows 98SE installation. Of course, you can
> use any other boot loader if you wish.
>
>
!