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December 10, 2006 5:30:06 PM

anyone get it yet? impressions? benchmark results? anything? :D 

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December 10, 2006 6:03:24 PM

well im pretty sure it will be cheaper on newegg. but i want see some benchmarks or impressions before i get it. i know people have purchased it but i can't find anything on it.
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December 10, 2006 6:24:21 PM

I believe its specs are the same as the PCI-E version so I would assume that their performance would be similar. Here is a link for you that shows you the pci-e and the agp specs they are the same. The AGP does not look like it has been reviewed but the PCI-E has so click the links and check out the benchmarks.

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=471&card2...
December 10, 2006 6:29:17 PM

hey thanks for the link. I know the specs are the same. but i want to see if it truely bottleneeks with something like a athlon 64 3200 with 1-2 gigs of ram. If it close to the pci results with a similar system then it should be sweet.
December 11, 2006 1:28:05 PM

I'm doing a review for Tom's on my 3500+ with 1gb of RAM, but it won't be up fior a bit.

First I'm reviewing it on an Athlon XP 2500+ with 1gb of ram...
December 11, 2006 1:36:43 PM

That's cool! I am looking forward to reading your article. It would be nice to see it tested against the pci-e version with a similiar cpu from a 2500+ all the way up to the best cpu/agp board they can get which I think will be a 939 dual core cpu or maybe a core2 (I think there is an agp board that supports core2) I think everyone wants to see if there is a difference between agp and pci-e with such a high level cpu/gpu set up. :wink:
December 11, 2006 3:17:02 PM

Can't wait for this review to hit Tom's site. Any chance we could an ETA on it? maybe by the end of this week? I am a bit desparate hehe.
December 11, 2006 3:43:51 PM

Shoot me a PM in a week and I'll give you an idea of the preliminary results.
What games will you be playing?
December 11, 2006 4:06:37 PM

I won't be playing anything demanding at all really. mainly WoW. my 6600gt and 1300pro currently do a fantastic job with it.

I will, however, get a 19' wide LCD by the end of the year and would like to play wow at the LCD's native res (1440 x 900) with some eye-candy turned on :)  Now I know this card will be able to do that but I would like to see what new games I can start playing without worriyng too much about performance.
a b U Graphics card
December 11, 2006 7:36:59 PM

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First I'm reviewing it on an Athlon XP 2500+ with 1gb of ram...

Ah, I like it Cleeve..... Review it on the type systems potential buyers own. Any chance that XP2500+ will be running 1.83Ghz and 2.2 GHz? That along with your 3500+ review will be way more useful than any site who decides to use a FX57 or 62 without scaling.
December 11, 2006 7:55:43 PM

I got alot of cards to test and not alot of time, so I think I'll probably run the CPU at stock speeds.

If I have time I'll overclock the bus to 200 Mhz and simulate an XP 3200+...
December 11, 2006 9:05:23 PM

Awwww man I was hoping that you would do benchmarks with the 2500+ and then click it up one Mhz at a time and do benchmarks until you reached 200..........dang!


:lol: 
a b U Graphics card
December 11, 2006 9:09:45 PM

Sounds good; looking forward to it.
December 13, 2006 4:56:09 AM

I still have an agp board. I was thinking about getting the x1950 agp. I saw it at BestBuy for $299. I held it in my hand. Then I saw the x1950 pci-e right next to it for $199. I new pci-e mobo is certainly less than $100.

I decided it makes no sense to buy this card. Better and cheaper to buy pci-e and a new mobo.

1. Who is going to buy that x1950 pro agp in a year or two?
2. With a pci-e mobo you can upgrade to newer pci-e card in the future.
December 13, 2006 3:58:09 PM

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I still have an agp board. I was thinking about getting the x1950 agp. I saw it at BestBuy for $299. I held it in my hand. Then I saw the x1950 pci-e right next to it for $199. I new pci-e mobo is certainly less than $100.

I decided it makes no sense to buy this card. Better and cheaper to buy pci-e and a new mobo.

1. Who is going to buy that x1950 pro agp in a year or two?
2. With a pci-e mobo you can upgrade to newer pci-e card in the future.



Sorry man but there is more to upgrading your mobo for the pci slot. I would have to buy a new mobo, ram(ddr 2), video card, and processor(not going to buy a old socket 754 board for a pci slot). If i did upgrade the mobo i would get the newest tech. Just my opinion.

Anyone have any new impressions etc?
a b U Graphics card
December 13, 2006 4:06:20 PM

It all depends on current system specs and the person wants to go through the hassle of a new mobo/OS/software install. S754 and 939 AGP owners have to decide what is more important to them, the premium for high end AGP or the hassle of upgrading mobos.

Then there are those who have littl options. I still think an Athlon XP3200+ or P4 2.8C owner could benefit from another AGP upgrade if they have say an old 9800 pro in their system. For them it's a $350+ upgrade + time, or just going for a high end AGP. Neither option is dumb IMO.
December 13, 2006 4:13:22 PM

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I would have to buy a new mobo, ram(ddr 2), video card, and processor(not going to buy a old socket 754 board for a pci slot). If i did upgrade the mobo i would get the newest tech. Just my opinion.


Yes, get a socket 754 board with a pci-e slot (I'm assuming they exist).

cost of new mobo + x1950 pro pci-e < cost of x1950 pro agp

You won't have to upgrade your RAM or CPU.

One day you'll probably upgrade your cpu. If you have an x1950 pro agp at that time then you'll also have to get a new video card on top of the cpu, memory, and motherboard. And your x1950 pro pci-e will have more value.

Just my opinion.[/quote]
a b U Graphics card
December 13, 2006 4:18:05 PM

It's getting harder to find a PCI-e X1950 pro for under $200 and ZZF already has one X1950 pro AGP for $238 shipped up on their site. Given both those thoughts, the AGP X1950 pro is looking like a pretty decent buy (if readily available).
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?Product...
December 13, 2006 4:30:23 PM

Ah slow server today ...see below :oops: 
December 13, 2006 4:30:51 PM

I really would be tempted to get the x1950 Pro for my rig...except that it requires at least a 450Watt PSU. (AGP or PCIe version) Even the "average" 7800GS out there needs only a 350 watt. So I would then have to fork over another $50-70 for a new PSU. With the "next gen" PCIe 2.0 mobos soon to arrive next year, I think I can hold out until then.
December 13, 2006 5:13:48 PM

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It's getting harder to find a PCI-e X1950 pro for under $200 and ZZF already has one X1950 pro AGP for $238 shipped up on their site. Given both those thoughts, the AGP X1950 pro is looking like a pretty decent buy (if readily available).
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?Product...


Bummer! Out of stock. The local Best Buy has them on the shelf for $299 but before I'd toss that much for my old P4 rig, I'd just build a low end C2D or even a S939 rig.
December 13, 2006 8:59:58 PM

Here is the mother board you need for a 939 system. I have two of these boards and they work great.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...


pci-e and agp in one board. Also has an expansion slot to add a AM2 cpu and DDR2 later if you want. The expansion card is about 30 bucks. I hope they don't discontinue this board for quite a while it maybe not be the best out there but it's great for anyone in between upgrades.
December 14, 2006 3:43:28 PM

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Here is the mother board you need for a 939 system. I have two of these boards and they work great.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...


pci-e and agp in one board. Also has an expansion slot to add a AM2 cpu and DDR2 later if you want. The expansion card is about 30 bucks. I hope they don't discontinue this board for quite a while it maybe not be the best out there but it's great for anyone in between upgrades.


Well, thanks for the recommendation but I already have four S939 rigs, three with DFI mobos, one Asus. Both have their good and bad features but if I build a new one, it will probably be another CFX3200.
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