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I need help choosing a graphics card, plz help

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December 10, 2006 7:30:26 PM

Hi,

im looking for a gfx card around thee £100 mark that will play games such as

LOTR battle of Middle Earth II, Warhammer 40,000 Dark Cursade, Medieval Total war 2, Half life 2: Ep 1, Age Of empires, Company of heros and Elder scrols oblivion

at a good level, and games of 2007 at a mid to good level. Also if possible a card that does not run to hot.

Also it must be quite small as i am in a small micro atx case and there is a nice big Antec System exteractor that keeps verything at 25 degrees even when using games. The extractor takes up 2 PCI Ports but there is room for a quite thin gfx card.

The mobo is Asus M2N-VM-DM micro atx case, i have s duel core amd x2 4200 and on 1gb ram.

The GFX Interface is PCI-e and i am in the UK.

Can anybody helo me with a good gfx card to get please thanks
December 10, 2006 9:32:00 PM

i was also thinking of the 7600, will it work at a mid level till 2008? i mean im a guy who still belives the 6600gt is good enough for this year lol
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December 10, 2006 9:41:46 PM

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i was also thinking of the 7600, will it work at a mid level till 2008? i mean im a guy who still belives the 6600gt is good enough for this year lol

Well, I would say it won't kat until '08 if you want to play new games.

During '07 you'll see quad-cores, Vista, R600 along with 8900s.

It'll probably run UT07 and Crysis at the lowest possible settings, and pretty low resolution.
December 10, 2006 10:16:02 PM

i wnt play unreal but Cyrsis i will, would it really stuggle that much wit it, wouldent it even produce playable frame rate, ok gfx and reolution of 1024x756
December 10, 2006 10:19:39 PM

It might struggle.

At lowest settings, framerates should be playable.
December 13, 2006 11:52:34 PM

when is the game released,
December 14, 2006 4:53:44 PM

i was looking into 7600gt, now i found a inno 7600gt for £75 and a asus for £108.

is ther a diference between the two
December 14, 2006 4:55:47 PM

also,

there is a 128mb and a 256mb version, what are the differences
December 14, 2006 5:19:16 PM

Pref. 256mb for current games. 128 is a bit short now at days. Didn't know they still made the 128mb v.
December 14, 2006 5:20:00 PM

If yoiu are using AGP then I agree with the 7600GT, great card for the money.

If using PCI-Express then I recommend you get a 7900GS, priced between £100 and £120 for 256MB/450/1320.

Get on ebay aqnd find yerself a deal...
December 14, 2006 5:33:26 PM

i am using PCI-Express

so the 7900gs is better then 7600gt, and what do you mean by 256/450/1320
December 14, 2006 5:41:30 PM

Yeah sorry I was being a little vague there.

I meant 256 = memory, 450 = core (gpu) speed, 1320 = memory speed

Those are stock speeds for the 7900GS.

However some companies are prepared to up the clocks out of the box, such as the Gainward Bliss at Scan : http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProdu...

And only costs £105... for Overclocked speeds of 500+ on gpu and 1400+ on memory...

Will acheive great FPS in latest games and high details and resolutions.

Good luck with your purchase...
December 14, 2006 6:04:08 PM

sounds great, and is this card significantly better then the 7600gt and will it play cysis
December 14, 2006 6:07:40 PM

2nd the 7900GS. Good overclocker + price/performance ratio.
December 14, 2006 6:11:31 PM

Yeah go for the 7900GS, beats the 7600GT by quite a large margin.
December 14, 2006 6:13:51 PM

Yes the 7900GS is much better than the 7600GT especially I guess since the 7600GT has 128 memory interface while the 7900GS has 256mb
December 14, 2006 6:16:01 PM

Dude :D 

For 107.088 GBP you can get the Sapphire Ultimate X1950 PRO here:
Ultimate X1950PRO Check iit out compared to the 7600 :D 
December 14, 2006 6:38:33 PM

yeah that is definately better but thats $210 not £110. The x1950pro is better than the 7900GS but slightly more expensive.
December 14, 2006 6:52:05 PM

i think the 7900gs is a good one for me,

just a few questions on it:

1. how would it play the game Crysis
2. Will it work with DX10
3. Would it play games at a mid level until 2008
4.would it work with vista
December 14, 2006 7:26:49 PM

YAS Dude :D 

Ya' need to learn about currency conversion ... GBP (Great Britain Pounds to USD, U.S. $) Currency Converter

The Brit TurkzZ specified "around £100", well $210 = 107.088 GBP, so that's close enough for better bang for da' buck, don't ya' think? :) 
December 14, 2006 7:43:23 PM

ok now im getting confused loool, so the 7900gs and the x1950 are simular priced,

which of the two is the better
December 14, 2006 8:02:39 PM

TurkzZ :D 

You are asking "tech" questions on a tech forum, so here's an opportunity for you to learn how to become "more" techie yourself. Ya' need to learn how to use "trusted" review sources, like Tom's hdwe reviews, etc., etc. Here's a site that allows comparing any two vid cards both by tech (ATI, Nvidia, Voodoo, etc.) and manufacturer. Summary-Ultimate X1950 PRO

Remember here that the Sapphire Ultimate X1950 PRO version is superior to the ATI reference card performance specs, but this link gives the side-by-side specs of the ATI vs Nvidia 7900 GS: 7900 GS vs Radeon X1950 PRO

If, after reading the above you still decide to glom a 7900 GS, then I have a bridge I'll sell ya' cheap :lol: 
December 14, 2006 8:32:48 PM

I was able to squeeze 25 - 28fps at a 110 to 140fps thresh-hold out of a Foxconn7900GS oc'ed at 575/815 blowing by the 7900GT's advancement of 8 - 12fps over the GS at stock. 8O 13 - 16fps over the GT.
The 1950Pro advances the 7900GS by 9 - 15fps at stock. Pulling off 25fps puts it on par and further with the Pro. Selling at 40 bucks less than the Pro. Yet at high resolutions, most ATI cards whip out a few more guns.

And if you give me your name, address and number, I have a vacume you may be interested in :twisted:
December 14, 2006 9:19:51 PM

ok looking at those comparisons it seems the 1950xt pro has better specs on everything (core clock ect)

so im guessing the 1950 is better,

but on the review the 7900gs and 1950xt pro get the same overall score
December 14, 2006 9:26:44 PM

ok after a search on the net im down to these two:

1. Gainward 7900GS £105
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProdu...

2. Asus Radeon X1950Pro £125
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProdu...


which one? lol



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Edit

after looking into both it seems the ATI one has a slightly higher clock speed and has 32 piplines instead of 20 so im guessing the more piplines the better?.


Is the performance difference worth the £20

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Edit again

the ATI also has 36 month warrenty while 7900 only has 12 month.
December 14, 2006 10:50:08 PM

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Yes the 7900GS is much better than the 7600GT especially I guess since the 7600GT has 128 :? (bits)memory interface while the 7900GS has 256mb 8O


You mean 7600 = 128 bits mem interface.
7900 = 256 bits " " .
December 15, 2006 12:24:04 AM

TurkzZ Dude :) 

Time to take your cupped hand away from your ear and stop shouting "somebody tell me what to do!" ... wake UP Dude! Use your reading ability to compare the specs I pointed out (remembering that I said the Sapphire Ultimate specs exceed the ATI reference specs): Ultimate X1950 Pro core clock = 580 MHz Nvidia 7900 GS = 480 MHz; Ultimate X1950 Pro mem = 1600 MHz Nvidia 7900 GS = 1400 MHz, pixel shaders Ultimate X1950 Pro = 36 Nvidia 7900 GS = 20 and, in addition the Sapphire Ultimate employs the super nifty and efficient Zalman Cooler! I gotta ask you Dude, are you unable to add 1+1 and come up with 2, or what? Can't you SEE the huge difference before your very eyes? You are obviously not even paying attention to the reviews you read ... the review that you cited compared a 7900 GS to an ATI X1950 PRO, NOT the Sapphire Ultimate version! Do ya' "get it" now? :roll:
December 15, 2006 11:44:56 AM

kk still confused but i think i gathered that the 1950xt pro is the better card loool.

Shall i get the one saphier make or ASUS, there simular priced.
December 15, 2006 1:15:25 PM

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YAS Dude :D 

Ya' need to learn about currency conversion ... GBP (Great Britain Pounds to USD, U.S. $) Currency Converter

The Brit TurkzZ specified "around £100", well $210 = 107.088 GBP, so that's close enough for better bang for da' buck, don't ya' think? :) 
Currency conversion works great if you are buying overseas. For UK vendors, the pricing is not the same as just taking the lowest US price in dollars and converting it to pounds.

UK Vendors:
HIS ATI X1950Pro 256 152.74BPS 12/15/06
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-065-HT

Sapphire ATI X1950Pro 512 172.71BPS 12/15/06
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-137-SP

BFG 7900GS 256 143.34BPS 12/15/06
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-033-BG

GECube X1950Pro 256 169.48BPS 12/15/06
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/119300

Yes, the cards you mention are faster than a 7600GT...
December 15, 2006 9:37:28 PM

Could somebody answer simply,

1. Is the 1950x Pro (Saphhire one - not ultimate edition) better then the 7900gs

2. will it play cysis at mid level

3. And is £110 (inc VAT) a good uk price
!