Sign in with
Sign up | Sign in
Your question

Looking for Advice on my proposed new budget system build.

Last response: in Systems
Share
December 11, 2006 9:51:11 AM

Ive just found this site and found it to be a goldmine of Info, I'm looking to build a new gaming PC on a bit of a budget. I'm sick of patching up my old asus A7333 AMD 2.5 XP.

Here's the items I was just about to buy but I would appreciate the advise of any experienced builders out there on the items I chose, I'm looking to get the biggest bang for my £ and use the machine mainly for MMO's, so I thought overclocking a Core 2 Duo E6300 would be a good start:

1x Gigabyte GA 965P-DS3 iP965, S775, PCI-E (x16), DDR2 533/667/800, SATA II, SATA RAID, ATX £90.46

1x Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 OEM, Socket 775, 1.86 GHz, 1066MHz FSB, Allendale Core, 2MB Cache, OEM £110.32

1x 512MB Leadtek 7950GT, PCI-E (x16), Mem 1400 MHz, GPU 550 MHz, 24 Pipes, 2xDual Link DVI-I/HDTV £170.94

1x 2GB (2x1GB) CorsairTwinX XMS2, DDR2 PC2-6400 (800), 240 Pins, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 4-4-4-12, EPP £187.64

1x Zalman CNPS9500-AT Intel LGA775 Aero Flower Cooler £32.30

1x 160 Gb Maxtor 6G160EO DiamondMax Plus 17, SATA300, 7200 rpm, 8MB Cache, 9.0 ms, NCQ £36.95

1 x Case + 500W PSU

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=013&...

Any suggestions or alterations to either save money or improve performance in the same cost bracket would be appreciated thanks.

It comes to around £690 which I thought wasnt to much considering what I'm getting?

Thanks

Greg
December 11, 2006 10:05:14 AM

Thanks I'll take a look, it did cross my mind, but unfortunately I err'd on the side of my wallet :oops: 
December 11, 2006 10:27:49 AM

If you are on a tight budget id recommend the gigabyte S3 over the DS3, its £20 cheaper and is basically the same, major difference is RAID. Lots of stuff in motherboards section.

Also the Zalman cooler is fairly expensive, the arctic freezer pro is pretty effective and is £15 cheaper.

Use this saved money and upgrade the PSU!
Related resources
December 11, 2006 10:48:46 AM

Thanks Flewis I'll check those out, but I reckon I could probably go £50 extra at a squeeze (If I don't tell the Mrs) I've a hardly used AGP Radeon 256 card, Brand new 120gig spinpoint Pata drive, 2x 512 sticks of 333 ram and a 500w PSU to stick on Ebay.

This one ok mpilchfamily its on your Tier 2 list, 550w should be enough?

1x 550W Xclio Greatpower Modular SLi U-Quiet 14cm Fan 87%+ Efficiency ATX2.2Trio+12v EPS 4SATA 6x PCI-E £52.82

Thanks

Greg
December 11, 2006 11:07:15 AM

The 580W HiperPower HPU-4M580 is quite a good value psu and pretty good. The 3 year warranty on a power supply is excellent. Roughly £53.
December 11, 2006 11:26:30 AM

Where are you getting thos prices from ?

I live in the UK aswell and I cant find that Corsair RAM for that cheap anywhere :( 

BTW Microdirect have G Skill Ultra 2GB PC6400 4-4-4 for about £160

And also get an X1950XT 256mb card - beats the 7950GT and it's roughly the same price.

Look into the Scythe Mine cooler aswell - excellent performer and about £24
December 11, 2006 11:44:02 AM

They do have this for the same money:

256MB Sapphire Radeon X1950XT, PCI-E(x16), Mem 1800MHz GDDR3, GPU 625MHz, 48Pipes, VIVO £176.00

Is that definately the better gaming card?

I got the pricing from scan.co.uk the rams out of stock at the moment.
December 11, 2006 1:15:22 PM

Very nice build at a good price. Job well done :) 

I'd echo the previous comments about the psu- no point risking it when you've chosen well everywhere else.

The setup will lend itself really well to overclocking (which you've not mentioned). If you dont plan to overclock- you could save a bit of cash on the ram (and potentially lower the psu wattage requirement).

You could also spend a little bit less on the gpu now, with an eye on upgrading to the dx10 mid range cards at some point in the next 6-12 months. A 7600GT is a good card for the price- obviously not as good as the X1950XT(cpu charts)- but looking at the dx10 offerings so far- both look pretty sluggish. I guess a lot comes down to what resolution you game at, what games you play and if you see yourself wanting to upgrade to dx10 / vista.

And the only other thing.. Pimp The Case! Spend money on a decent case and it'll last you a lifetime (my case is c. 5 years old and will soon be on its 3rd build). Apart from looks, consider noise & cooling as reasons to spend a bit extra (if you can). If I was buying now, the Antec P180 would be my choice- but you can still spend £40/£50 and get something that looks slightly less, erm... ugly 8O

Either way, it'll perfom real good.
December 11, 2006 1:35:39 PM

Thanks Surferosa,

Food for thought there, I didnt consider that the case was the one thing I probably will never need to upgrade, so I just bought a crappy one. I may stick that on ebay too...lol

What you said about the graphics card hit a nerve, because I'm quite tempted by the new DX10 cards but they are just too much money, so going with a temporary good quality card may be a good option to see me through until the DX10 cards come down in price.

Looking at the charts this seems like a really good buy to get me, what do you think? :

256MB Asus Radeon X1950Pro, PCI-E(x16), Mem 1400MHz GDDR3, GPU 581MHz, 36Pipes £123.48

I had intended to clock the system hence my choice of mobo/cpu and low latency ram, no doubt I'll be on here picking everyones brains as I'll have the tools but I'm currently a little short on the knowledge, I'm sure its nothing a little reading won't sort out.
December 11, 2006 1:41:13 PM

MrsBytch,

This is an option:

160 Gb Western Digital WD1600YS Caviar RE, SATA300, 7200 rpm, 16MB Cache, 8.9 ms, NCQ £42.85

Will Sata 2 give me fast enough data rates, I'll be playing battleground europe mmfps / Star Wars Galaxies mmo type games?
a c 122 B Homebuilt system
December 11, 2006 2:29:58 PM

If you are not going to aggressively overclock, you could skip the Zalman and spend the money on an e6400 and depend on the stock cooler. Otherwise make sure that the Zalman will fit in your case. A 9700 is big.
December 11, 2006 2:31:54 PM

Well, the 8800 GTS & GTX are the flagship cards from Nvidia; there next offerings will be the mid range versions (so Im expecting around a £200-250 price point). Of course you also have ATI's offering to come; so spending as little as you can get away with now with an eye on an upgrade is definitely the frugal way to go.

Star Wars galaxies I dont know too much about on the performance front (although most mmo's aren't that gpu heavy.. although the dx10 version of eve might require a little oomph). I know that the spec of your machine would comfortably run world of warcraft with all bells & whistles turned on.

As for BF2; what res are you running on? If you are running 1024x768 you really dont need to think about upgrading to dx10 until you upgrade your monitor. Its only at the higher res' where you going to visibly see a benefit from a better gpu (ie if your fps is above 30, its good enough).

As for the HD question, the cache will only effect loading screens in gaming- rather than gaming performance per se; although if the upgrade is so cheap I'd still do it.

Also; good advice on the E6400. If your not overclocking, the extra £20 or so will be worth it. But then again, if your not overclocking, you can save money on the mobo, ram & the cooler. The nice thing about your rig is it should fly with a little tweaking.

Check out Wusy's C2D Overclocking Guide to see if its something you want to get into.
December 11, 2006 3:24:16 PM

Thanks people and thanks surferosa for that overclocking guide thats going to be very handy.

Here's the forum tuned spec of my order, all priced up and ready to go, I'm going to wait to see if there's any more pearls of wisdom before I stick the order in in the morning.

1x Gigabyte GA 965P-DS3 iP965, S775, PCI-E (x16), DDR2 533/667/800, SATA II, SATA RAID, ATX £90.46

1x Intel Core 2 Duo E6400, Socket 775, 2.13 GHz, 1066MHz FSB, Allendale Core, 2MB Cache, Retail £139.80

1x 256MB Asus Radeon X1950Pro, PCI-E(x16), Mem 1400MHz GDDR3, GPU 581MHz, 36Pipes £123.48

1x 2GB (2x1GB) CorsairTwinX XMS2, DDR2 PC2-6400 (800), 240 Pins, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 4-4-4-12, EPP £187.64

1x Scythe Miné Quiet Heatpipe CPU Cooler S478, S775, S754, S939, S940 compatible £25.79

1x 160 Gb Western Digital WD1600YS Caviar RE, SATA300, 7200 rpm, 16MB Cache, 8.9 ms, NCQ £42.85

1x 550W Xclio Greatpower Modular SLi U-Quiet 14cm Fan 87%+ Efficiency ATX2.2Trio+12v EPS 4SATA 6x PCI-E £52.82
December 12, 2006 8:49:52 AM

All ordered, I managed to get a cracking deal on an E6600 £155 so I got one of those instead :lol:  Happy Days

Thanks everyone for your assistance.
December 12, 2006 9:29:45 AM

Good man.

Dont forget to tell us how the build worked out! :) 
December 12, 2006 9:51:26 AM

I will, thanks surferosa.
!