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X2 4200+ & 8800GTX or E6400 & 8800GTS? (no oc)

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December 12, 2006 7:28:26 AM

The rest of the hardware is pretty much identical as is the price. Which system would give the better gaming performance? X2 4200+ & 8800GTX or E6400 & 8800GTS? (not looking to overclock)
December 12, 2006 8:53:29 AM

e6400 if you must upgrade your cpu now. as ive said many times before to lots of other people. wait till the new amd's come out with their revised architecture and see if they outperform the core 2 duo's. my suggestion is to get the gpu now, and wait till summer or 07 to get the cpu upgrade.
December 12, 2006 8:57:53 AM

I think de athlon is not powerfull enough to ``feed`` the GTX. the combo E6400 and GTS will be faster.

Even a AthlonFX @ stock speed isn`t fast enough for a gtx to really let it shine so th E6400 will be having a hard time keeping up with the gts also!

Best case scenario: go withe the E6400 and gts and clock it to 3ghz! It will do it easy on the right mobo. :!:

Here they compare gts and gtx with athlonfx and c2d x6800:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/11/29/geforce_8800_nee...

only above 1600x1200 it maybe makes sense to go with the 4200 and the gtx........
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December 12, 2006 2:07:28 PM

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e6400 if you must upgrade your cpu now. as ive said many times before to lots of other people. wait till the new amd's come out with their revised architecture and see if they outperform the core 2 duo's. my suggestion is to get the gpu now, and wait till summer or 07 to get the cpu upgrade.

Then if the new AMDs are better, you can just wait a few more months to see what Intel does. Then if those are better, wait and see what AMD does. :twisted:

There's always something better around the corner. Get what's good now. By the time that pc is outdated, you can upgrade again and get the best then. 6400 and 8800GTS FTW.
December 12, 2006 2:46:11 PM

6400 and 8800GTS all the way....
December 12, 2006 4:32:02 PM

Yup, it's time to live in the now and not in the future. Because in the future, my future build will be able to run Quake 3 at 9,000 FPS. But I just have to wait until AMD OR INTELL RELEASE THEIR NEW CPU sometime in the next 10 years.
December 12, 2006 4:58:04 PM

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Yup, it's time to live in the now and not in the future. Because in the future, my future build will be able to run Quake 3 at 9,000 FPS. But I just have to wait until AMD OR INTELL RELEASE THEIR NEW CPU sometime in the next 10 years.


How does this help the OP in anyway?
December 12, 2006 5:38:28 PM

If all you do is play games, the X2 4200+ and 8800GTX would be the fastest combination.
December 12, 2006 5:48:08 PM

Meh, e6300 and 8800GTX ftw :p 
December 12, 2006 5:48:35 PM

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If all you do is play games, the X2 4200+ and 8800GTX would be the fastest combination.


True, but (as a third option to the OP) an E6300 + an 8800GTX would be even faster, and have more OC potential should the OP choose to go that way...
December 12, 2006 5:49:18 PM

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Meh, e6300 and 8800GTX ftw :p 


We had the same thought at the same time... :) 
December 12, 2006 6:18:45 PM

in a way, you're right...but im also waiting for amd to relase their quad core on the 1207 platform.
December 12, 2006 6:24:37 PM

...like others said : E6300 & 8800GTX
but if you have to choose between those two options :
i rather E6400 & 8800 GTS
even think about 4400AM2 & 8800GTS ??
December 12, 2006 6:54:07 PM

Quoting TH Article:

One thing is for certain: you need bleeding edge horsepower to get the most out of DX0 hardware. If you are in the market for a high end card, you'd do best with an entirely new system... For now the choice is clear: Conroe is the best choice for testing."

Seems like a 4200+ could bottleneck an 8800GTX, but maybe not. I don't know for sure. Just something to be aware of, though.
December 12, 2006 7:02:31 PM

i was looking at the article GeForce 8800 Needs The Fastest CPU and it just now occurred to me that while the amd's seem to just cap at lower resolutions (1280*1024 and lower), at higher resolutions, they are right up there with the core 2's, only being outperformed by about 5fps.
December 12, 2006 7:32:07 PM

for gaming performance, first off, the 8800GTX should be the first thing considered, if you want the best performance (by a sizable margin at higher resolutions)... ...second off would be the cpu... ... since both cpus are fairly comparible to each other in gaming (X2 4200 and E6400), and especially since a cpu isnt what does most of the work anyhow, in respect to gaming performance... ...so an 8800GTX, and whichever cpu of your choice, would give the best performance... especially with Dx10 around the corner anyhow, quite an additional gaming burdon placed then too on the gpu, im sure.
December 12, 2006 8:31:29 PM

I'm sure that we are in general agreement that your best option is the hybrid between the two options. Go with the e6300 and 8800GTX and do a light overclock on the 6300. Im a fan myself of the conroe/allendale xeons with their much improved return policy.
December 12, 2006 8:56:53 PM

From my understanding of the article THG stated that getting the best preformance out of the 8800 requiered the best CPU. While that is true, it looked to me like you would still get better preformance from the GTX with a slightly lesser CPU than you would with the GTS with a better CPU. Also the higher the resolutions you use the less the CPU is an issue.
December 12, 2006 9:13:04 PM

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The rest of the hardware is pretty much identical as is the price. Which system would give the better gaming performance? X2 4200+ & 8800GTX or E6400 & 8800GTS? (not looking to overclock)

Its odd how your asking this question. Do you already have the X2-4200+ and enough money to buy either the 8800GTX or the 8800GTS, E6400, and a mobo? If this is correct then keep your X2 4200+ and buy the 8800gtx. The difference between the 2 CPU's will not make as big a difference as the difference between the 8800GTS and 8800GTX. The good thing here is when Intel and AMD get their acts together and comes out with full quad core CPU's youll have a GPU worth including in a new build.
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