... is voting for this guy? This is making the rounds and hit drudgereport a few minutes ago.
OBAMA: 'We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK'...
www.drudgereport.com
Fcuk me.. a septic candidate that talks sense!
I live in America. I don't like being told how I'm supposed to live my life by someone else's standards, let alone making sure another Country agrees with it.
Er, Riser, careful there, that's a thin-ice remark if ever I saw one...
...oh to hell with diplomacy, let's go with my first instinct...
Your country loves to inflict its 'enlightened' way of living on other countries, without even being asked for it, on the rare occasion that it doesn't just attack, grab, and destroy. You have no objection to this. Yet you object the moment someone suggests a reversal. Double standards, perchance?
This is wholly the reason I hold the United States of America in utter despite. The collective arrogance and overweening pride has inflicted far more damage to that country's image worldwide than the smear tactics used by every actively anti-American country throughout history.
Seriously - it might do America some good in the world's eye to actually pay attention to what non-Americans think, instead of ramming their American ideas down our throats with a big stick.
Discuss.
The whole of the USA is there solely for my amusement.[/massive Riser trip]
We have our share of problems just like everyone else. Our society has become decadent off the hard work of the generation before last.
I don't want the US telling other places how to do things either. I'm all for letting genocide take place in Iraq and other countries if that's what they want.
Though, I don't want a presidential candidate who wants to raise taxes on the retired. Nor do I want someone telling me what I'm not allowed to do in my own country where I'm supposed to have some degree of freedom.
I'm not understand what people are flocking to this guy. He's not offering leadership to help people. He's taking away opportunties.
He's having trouble grasping the working middle class because we're the group that will get hit the hardest from all of his talk, whereas the poor people benefit the most for doing the least, and the rich can easily avoid his policy changes.
If you can afford to drive an SUV around, have your house at 72 degrees, and eat all the food you can afford, go for it. We're not living under rationing conditions and still have far more production for food available. Instant gratification is the issue here. People want to do that but can't afford it for whichever reason and should not be rewarded for it.
Too many conveniences have become expected instead of earned.
Dipshit, he's not telling you how to live your life or what you can or can't do. He's saying that you can't live like that and not expect others to criticize.
I'm a smoker. I expect to get dirty looks when I'm smoking. I'm over it.
I'm a bit over weight. I would expect to get some stares / laughs if I took my shirt off at a beach or ball game, so I don't.
hell with that get your kit off sexy boy.
I'll be happy to rate your moobs.
If you're hot I may even fondle your moobs and ask wingy to take pictures.
But will they lactate?
@AV: Oh sod off.
@everyone else:
Freedom? What's that? Discuss.
Freedom is what my panthood is experiencing right now.
*dives for cover*
...*sings*...
.."Nowhere to ruuuunnn, nowhere to hiiide"....
| Riser wrote : Nor do I want someone telling me what I'm not allowed to do in my own country where I'm supposed to have some degree of freedom. |
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
*pauses for breath *
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Oh Rise, you are top entertainment, you know that?
* wipes tear from corner of eye *
| mugz wrote : Er, Riser, careful there, that's a thin-ice remark if ever I saw one...
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I agree. And Canada isn't much better, not in the military "shove this down your throat" way but the SUV and potable water to no ends way.
As for goverments regulations i beleive it would help that their be more user taxes. Tax those SUVs, water meters should be mandatory and all "overusage" should be heavily taxed. Same for electricity. Goverments should be accountable for redirecting these funds into environmental friendly r&d.
*disappears, with bleeding ears, to the sound of a caterwauling pervert*
| JustPlainJef wrote : Dipshit, he's not telling you how to live your life or what you can or can't do. He's saying that you can't live like that and not expect others to criticize.
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You keep thinking that.. look at some of the bills Obama has introduced. Plus, figure you have the Devil Pelosi and Numbnuts Reid running around like fcuking morons.
Good chance you'll end up paying more because 'everyone needs to feel the hurt.' Regardless of those who worked their asses off to get away from that situation.
But once Obama gets the nomination, all the dirt is coming out on him and hopefully he gets destroyed... but we'll become a racist nation against black people and all this other BS. I'm sure Chicago will riot if he doesn't get elected president.
Haven't had a good riot here since eighty one.
***ponders for a while***
***decides to start riot in Moscow tomorrow night***
It'll be worth the travel to see Mancs and Cockneys killing each other.
At least you know how to riot. My coworker and I were talking about this.. people riot and burn down their own neighborhood. Fcuking retards.
Go somewhere else and riot. Not in your own backyard.. Rioters tend to be democrats anyhow.. can't expect them to be smarter than the neighbor's dog.
| Riser wrote : At least you know how to riot. My coworker and I were talking about this.. people riot and burn down their own neighborhood. Fcuking retards.
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Those are some lazy Rioters. "To the Riot... a fcuk it, let's just do it here"
And to Mugz: if our government loves to inflict its 'enlightened' way of living on other countries, it doesn't mean that all Americans agree with it. It seems with our current administration that despite what the majority of the public feels, or even what they constitution says, they will do what they want anyway.
Actually Tom, isn't it just going to be a load of cockneys kicking seven shades out of another load of cockneys? [/stereotyping ManUre fans]
Probably right, eighty percent of the tickets arrive by post with a map and directions to Manchester included.
| dmroeder wrote : Those are some lazy Rioters. "To the Riot... a fcuk it, let's just do it here"
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Keep in mind the rest of the world is full of twits who can't think for themselves and have to go along with whatever America says to do.. why take over the world and deal with all that crap when you can make people do what you want without risk?
| Riser wrote : Keep in mind the |
Fixed.
I'll give you that one.
Of which, ask anyone voting for Obama why they're voting for him. I have yet to meet anyone who is voting for him who can give me a reason other than "McCain is just like Bush. We need a Democrat in there."
Stupid ass American idiots.
It's always the same - after the disaster that is Bush jnr, people will be inclined to vote the other way. A term or two of a cr*p democrat president and it'll go the other way.
Likewise, I am fully resigned to our next government here being a Conservative one. They'll be cr*p. Really cr*p. But people will be so relieved to have dethroned Labour that no-one will notice quite how cr*p at first.
The main problem we have with politics at the moment isn't that we are voting for the wrong parties, but that very few of them are actually any good.
| Tom_Smart wrote : Probably right, eighty percent of the tickets arrive by post with a map and directions to Manchester included. |
You think the average Manc could afford a ticket for the match?
Yeah, I'm hoping McCain picks up Romney on his ticket. Get a business leader in there and someone who understands an economy.
Whereas Obama has absolutely no experience in anything except working with the lower class. I respect that, but you're running an entire country. Talking about 'taxing the rich' gets you elected but it won't run a country that depends on people making money.
If Obama does somehow get elected, I'm certain the Middle East will flat out laugh at us when he wants to sit down and talk with them.
Its not exactly hard to know what they want: Israel gone and the land handed over to the people who had it prior to WWII. Let's just take that Israeli economy out of the global market then and give it to people who have lost any idea on what to do beside blow stuff up these days.
I'm not against a black president. I'm not against any of that.. I'm against a lot of things he stands for which I can't believe people like what this guy is saying. Taxing the retired to give back them in social security is as retarded as it comes.
Again, I'm all for making social security private, or at least an option. I would go for it completely. If others don't want to go for it, then don't do it.
Taxing big oil is not the solution. It makes money. Drilling in ANWR and building new refineries in the solution for the US's oil dependency. It'll take 10 years for refineries to produce and oil to flow from ANWR. It'll take 10-20 years to get a truly viable solution away from oil.
Oil is almost $130 a barrel. We need more refineries. We have oil in our backyard that doesn't cost $130 a barrel.
I found the long term solution. No short term solution available.
Seems to me like the average Manc can't afford soap.
I saw an article about Liverpool boys going out and getting breast reductions today.
Because of the inhabitants of Toledo, the world already has too many tits.
Is that a boob typing?
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liv [...] -20929575/
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liv [...] -20931682/
http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=17974
Yeah this, and other cities here too, are full of fat b@stards. Recent studies have shown there is a connection between diet, lifestyle and fat b@stards. Recent fcuking study? Who the fcuk managed to get paid to figure out that? Genius is what it is.
Seriously, anyone to dumb to not realise that eating sh!t, and too much of it, makes you fat deserves any problems they get.
I head a woman on TV saying that she only has to look at a cake and she puts on weight. I wonder if I can get some twat to pay me to figure out if this is the case or maybe, just maybe, the fat fcuker eats the thing after looking at it?
| Riser wrote :
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Not just the country, the whole world!
Some people would say that Bush doesn't have the ability to run the country either, but he's been president for 8 years.
Dropping the gas tax for the summer will fix the oil problem once and for all!
So temporarily charging less for a product will eliminate the issue of it being a finite resource? Have you figured out why you shouldn't run anything more sophisticated than a pair of mittens?
I hope there was a heavy dose of sarcasm in that statement, either that or we have another one for felt shapes.
Sorry. Sold the felt shapes for 1/2 a gallon of gas.
Dropping the gas tax I think only shows how much money the government makes off us buying gas.
Its not a solution by any means and lowering the cost of gas will only increase the consumption of gasoline. The days before the tax goes back into effect will have people lining up at the pumps.
It could save people $20-$60 a month in gas roughly.. but I say drop cable TV and you're in the same position.
...
I wanted to grow up to be an expert. When I was a little kid I read the headlines of a newspaper that said, "Expert claims mechanical failure caused crash."
Who the fcuk our these experts and how do I get that title?
I'm in tit withdrawl.
| Tom_Smart wrote : So temporarily charging less for a product will eliminate the issue of it being a finite resource? |
Damn, I was taken seriously
I guess I need to work on my humor.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24120727/. See gas tax holiday will fix it.
Expert: from Ex, meaning 'has been', and Spurt, meaning 'Drip under pressure'.
*hides*
| dmroeder wrote : Damn, I was taken seriously http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24120727/. See gas tax holiday will fix it. |
Serious? Me? Are you a mental?
| Tom_Smart wrote : Are you a mental? |
Most likely. The nice thing about being mental is that it's really everyone else's problem.
Kind of like the other day when my co-worker, out of nowhere says (while shaking his head is disgust): "You are goofy looking". I said that is your problem, you are the one that has to look at me.
Riser - why would the people drilling ANWR charge less for gas than they could get it for on the free market?
If it's $130 / barrel, then it's $130 / barrel. How much do we pay for the gas out of the Gulf of Mexico? Prolly $130 / barrel.
So how does that fix things?
Ok you truly are clueless. We pay $130/barrel on imported oil. Domestic oil will be cheaper to process into gasoline since a premium isn't being paid on it thus reducing the price.
The profit margin is the same whether a barrel is $60 or $130. There is a reason they say that the ideal market pricing for a barrel of oil is $60-$62.
Riser, your lack of clarity isn't helping your argument. Can you explain to me how domestic oil will be cheaper to process? It won't. Gasoline may be cheaper to produce, but the cost of processing the oil remains the same.
Sorry, I see my mistake. Domestic oil will not be cheaper to process into gasoline. It will not have the $130 price tag to buy from an OPEC country, thus that price will not be passed onto the consumer.
Supply could potentially increase if the drilling happened since more oil would be available to our market outside of the OPEC pricing scheme since the US is not a member.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/2008052 [...] l_congress
The Democrats do not understand. You buy something today at $130 a gallon, turn around and sell it. Make your 7-9% profit on it, PLUS the additional money to pay for buying more oil at a higher price later on.
Oil goes up to $135 and they're selling gasoline at $130 oil prices, they'll lose money. Bad business. Thus they have to speculate and assume oil prices are going up and by the time the money comes back to them, they need to be able to buy the barrel at the futures market price, not at today's price.
That should explain to stupid Americans why when oil spikes up, gasoline spikes as well. The money we're spending on gasoline today is buying the oil for tomorrow.
Its basic business but Democrats aren't known for being business savvy.
Politicians are all bought and paid for in one way or another by the very same companies you're trying to defend here. Republican and Democrat alike.
When was the last time big oil passed on a "savings" to the consumer, aside from a token amount? They sure do love to pass on cost to the consumer, but not savings. The current trend in oil has always been to pass on cost to the consumer, not savings. "Savings" becomes profit to them and there is no reason for them to pass that along, nor do they have to. In an industry where there aren't a whole lot of alternative sources that can produce the same thing, they can and will keep doing business as usual. If they could get away with it they would still charge $130 a barrel for "American" oil even if "ideal market pricing" is around $60 per barrel and it only cost them $20 per barrel "acquire" it. They would do it because they can and know that dumbass people would still pay $4 a gallon to fill up their fcuking Ford Excursion so they can take their one kid to soccer practice.
Big oil is going to wring every cent from every ounce of oil per quarter for as long as they can. They will essentially "rape" the oil industry and public in general without seriously considering the long term impact. Yeah they might throw the public a bone if they're allowed to drill locally or even open up a new refinery or two, but it will most likely be a token amount as they have done in the past. Instead of the "savings" we'll be hearing sad stories about the incredibly high (which it is) cost to build a new refinery or the extra expense of this new local drilling.
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