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phil_scnu   12-13-2006 at 05:06:03 PM

Sempron2800+AM2 240@8=1.92G
Giga M55PlusS3G/AM2-C51G
Corsair VS D2-667oc800, 512Mx1
Seagate 72.9SATA 160G

I would like to spent a small money to update this eco pc?
e.g. 70-80USD

what shall be the choice?
1> Resale the Sempron(=US$50), then get a US$99 AM2 3600x2
2> Push the RAM to 1G (+512M US$60)
3> 7300GT/7600GS 1.4ns/DDR3

under what situation i shall choice one of them? Tks~ :)

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gOJDO   12-13-2006 at 05:24:43 PM
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For what purposes are you using your PC?

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phil_scnu   12-14-2006 at 12:42:11 AM
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for some routine operation

e.g. www and some 3d game e.g. far cary or nfs6-9 at 800x600 or 1024x768 resolution

p.s.
not planning to migrate to Vista at this winter

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kmjohnso   12-14-2006 at 01:16:42 AM
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I would say the Cpu would be that last thing i would upgrade. I would either do the memory or gpu. They both will hold each other back, so its a toss up.

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phil_scnu   12-14-2006 at 04:00:58 AM
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Tks~

Think the priority could be RAM->CPU->GPU if it's not using for daily gaming...

we could always get the benefit of 1G Ram when&whatever situation you are as i notice the ram usage is always 480M + which make my 512M & hdd under pressure (when have the norton anti-virus/is, mp3, msn ...at the same time).

CPU is better than GPU as CPU could be used for general purpose but 3D GPU could only be utilized when you play 3d games, other time, it's won't bring too much joy for you. (as a non-routing/daily 3d gamer). right?

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kmjohnso   12-14-2006 at 04:50:27 AM
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Yes if thats how you run your computer definitely get more ram. Your right on the CPU, but a new cpu won't help at all on games. Do you do a lot of encoding/proccessing that requires it? A new gpu is your only way to increase playability of games though.

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phil_scnu   12-14-2006 at 06:03:52 AM
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Yup, Then let's shift the topic to "Dual Core CPU VS GPU"

Assume Dual Core 3600x2's performance is much better than current
Sempron if pressures are there, right? Even in some 3D Gaming, infer the
performance would be boost up due the the CPU change. Currently,
i am not fond on compressing/encoding etc so that i haven't go for the core2 duo.
What give me a push to the 3600x2 is that the price drop down to below US$100 at local market...quite a nice price, isn't it?

What do you in think in b/m situation? Which is faster?

AMD 3600x2+ C51onboard GPU/128 + 1G Ram D2-800
VS
Sempron 1.9sG + 7300GT/1.4ns/DR3/256M + 1G Ram D2-800
@ Farcry/Half life2@ low-med graphic quality(of course no AA)
1024*768. :?:

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kmjohnso   12-14-2006 at 06:57:31 AM
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For games the sempron sytem would kill the 3600x2. There are two problems:

1) Most games don't support dual core so there is no gain from the second core. New games will support it but might require a faster gpu than the 7300gt

2) With the on board graphics the relationship is really non linear. It can go to maximum of 100% performance. A really slow cpu (P3@1Ghz) might knock it down to 50% of that, your cpu may sit at 90%, and the fastest cpu available might push it to 99%, but the gain is minimal.

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gOJDO   12-14-2006 at 05:45:41 PM
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For games the sempron sytem would kill the 3600x2. There are two problems:

1) Most games don't support dual core so there is no gain from the second core. New games will support it but might require a faster gpu than the 7300gt

2) With the on board graphics the relationship is really non linear. It can go to maximum of 100% performance. A really slow cpu (P3@1Ghz) might knock it down to 50% of that, your cpu may sit at 90%, and the fastest cpu available might push it to 99%, but the gain is minimal.


This part is impossible. The X2 3600 is dualcore 2GHz with 256kB of L2 cache and is wipping the floor with Sempron 2800+ for every application known to mankind.

1) There are many games optimized for dualcore, but all singletreaded games will benefit from a dualcore CPU. The background processes are processed by the second core.

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kmjohnso   12-14-2006 at 05:52:12 PM
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I was refering to seprom+7300gt vs x2 +integrated. But the relative benefit is minimal for games without the graphics card. Its not that the dual core 3600 isn't going to perform any better. But that the relative gain isn't going to be that much. Especially when compared to a new graphics card. (OP: this is only for games)

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