Missing HD space?

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Hi all. I have a new system with a 160BG drive. Using various tools, onlt
149GB shows. Is this normal, or did I lose 11GB?
Thanks.

 

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Try to use Disk manager to see the used and remaining disk space

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"LMO" <lmo01nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all. I have a new system with a 160BG drive. Using various tools, onlt
> 149GB shows. Is this normal, or did I lose 11GB?
> Thanks.
>

 

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LMO wrote:
> Hi all. I have a new system with a 160BG drive. Using various tools,
> onlt 149GB shows. Is this normal, or did I lose 11GB?
> Thanks.

HD vendors report HD capacity in decimal units (1KB = 1000) while
computers report in binary units (1KB = 1024). 1GB-decimal =
1,000,000,000 while 1GB-binary = 1024x1024x1024 = 1,073,741,824.
160GB-decimal x 1,000,.../1,073,... = 149 GB-binary. Vendors use
decimal notation because it's a bigger number.

Q

 

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In news:34ihf1F4afai4U1@individual.net,
LMO <lmo01nospam@yahoo.com> typed:

> Hi all. I have a new system with a 160BG drive.


No you don't. You have a new system with a 149GB drive. See
below.


> Using various tools,
> onlt 149GB shows. Is this normal, or did I lose 11GB?
> Thanks.


All hard drive manufacturers define 1GB as 1,000,000,000 bytes,
while the rest of the computer world, including Windows, defines
it as 2 to the 30th power (1,073,741,824) bytes. So a 160 billion
byte drive is actually a little about 149GB.

Some people point out that the official international standard
defines the "G" of GB as one billion, not 1,073,741,824. Correct
though they are, using the binary value of GB is so well
established in the computer world that I consider using the
decimal value of a billion to be deceptive marketing.


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LMO wrote:
> Hi all. I have a new system with a 160BG drive. Using various tools,
> onlt 149GB shows. Is this normal, or did I lose 11GB?

This is perfectly normal.

Drive manufacturers use 1000 (10^3) for a base number (1 kB = 1000 bytes, 1
MB = 1000 kB, 1 GB = 1000 MB), but most operating systems and programs use
1024 (2^10). So, your manufacturer sells your drive as a 160 GB (160 * 1000
* 1000 * 1000), but the operating system considers the disk to be 149 GB
(149 * 1024 * 1024 * 1024). So the bottom line is that your disk _is_ 160
billion bytes, but your tools only considers this to be 149 GB.

This is the way it has always been, and when we start seeing disks with TB
capacities the difference between the two sizes will differ even more.

 

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Very interesting. Thanks everyone!

"Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:eeBJuKB%23EHA.3416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> In news:34ihf1F4afai4U1@individual.net,
> LMO <lmo01nospam@yahoo.com> typed:
>
>> Hi all. I have a new system with a 160BG drive.
>
>
> No you don't. You have a new system with a 149GB drive. See below.
>
>
>> Using various tools,
>> onlt 149GB shows. Is this normal, or did I lose 11GB?
>> Thanks.
>
>
> All hard drive manufacturers define 1GB as 1,000,000,000 bytes, while the
> rest of the computer world, including Windows, defines it as 2 to the 30th
> power (1,073,741,824) bytes. So a 160 billion byte drive is actually a
> little about 149GB.
>
> Some people point out that the official international standard defines the
> "G" of GB as one billion, not 1,073,741,824. Correct though they are,
> using the binary value of GB is so well established in the computer world
> that I consider using the decimal value of a billion to be deceptive
> marketing.
>
>
> --
> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
> Please reply to the newsgroup
>
>

 

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In news:34ipl2F49e5ceU1@individual.net,
LMO <lmo01nospam@yahoo.com> typed:

> Very interesting. Thanks everyone!

You're welcome. Glad to help.

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Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup


> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:eeBJuKB%23EHA.3416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> In news:34ihf1F4afai4U1@individual.net,
>> LMO <lmo01nospam@yahoo.com> typed:
>>
>>> Hi all. I have a new system with a 160BG drive.
>>
>>
>> No you don't. You have a new system with a 149GB drive. See
>> below.
>>
>>
>>> Using various tools,
>>> onlt 149GB shows. Is this normal, or did I lose 11GB?
>>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> All hard drive manufacturers define 1GB as 1,000,000,000
>> bytes,
>> while the rest of the computer world, including Windows,
>> defines it
>> as 2 to the 30th power (1,073,741,824) bytes. So a 160 billion
>> byte
>> drive is actually a little about 149GB.
>>
>> Some people point out that the official international standard
>> defines the "G" of GB as one billion, not 1,073,741,824.
>> Correct
>> though they are, using the binary value of GB is so well
>> established
>> in the computer world that I consider using the decimal value
>> of a
>> billion to be deceptive marketing.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
>> Please reply to the newsgroup

 

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Is this a blank hard disk or do you have programs on it?

When you say "new system" this doesn't mean nothing on it. If you have windows,
applications, data files etc, the GB are consumed pretty quickly.

If you don't have windows on the system, maybe the hidden partition (e.g. on
whatever system you have - Dell, Compaq, Gateway etc - you didn't specify this)
with the install files is taking up space - I doubt though that it would be 11 GB
of CAB files.....

That's one possiblity anyway, and would explain why there is only 149 of 160 gb
you can see as the other partition is the 11gb you're missing.


"Rany ElHousieny [MSFT]" <ranyel@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Try to use Disk manager to see the used and remaining disk space
>
> --
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
> "LMO" <lmo01nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:34ihf1F4afai4U1@individual.net...
> > Hi all. I have a new system with a 160BG drive. Using various tools, onlt
> > 149GB shows. Is this normal, or did I lose 11GB?
> > Thanks.
> >
>
>