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5-5-5-12 vs. 4-4-4-12

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December 16, 2006 4:55:35 PM

* Is there going to be a noticable difference in performance for everyday tasks, audio-editing, etc. in the two timings in PC6400 800Mhz RAM? My current Gigabyte GA-965P DS3 won't do the 4-4-4-12 timings that my Corsair PC6400 TwinX C4D RAM (the baby of the bunch) offers. ...and I'm not that excited about the motherboard anyways.

* Is the lack of timing support of my DS3 a good excuse to get a better motherboard? ...or is the difference in timings something that I'd probably not notice anyways unless I was overclocking/gaming?

Thx, its for the rig in my sig.

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December 16, 2006 5:37:43 PM

i have a similar question, as my friend just bumped up his timings and says he notices a difference. i don't believe him, but i guess depending on how the actual responses go, i may have to change my mind.
December 16, 2006 5:38:45 PM

Benchmarks will show that 4-4-4-12 vs 5-5-5-12 DDR2 timings increase memory performance by less than 2%, which has little impact on overall system performance. Check out the following THG article regarding memory frequency and timings:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/03/31/tight_timings_vs...

I ran memory benchmarks on my rig with PCMark04, 3 tests at 4-4-4-12, and 3 at 5-5-5-12. The average of the first 3 results divided by the average of the second 3 results are 12695 / 12550 = 1.16% It's still better than 0%, so we'll take whatever we can get. :D 
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December 16, 2006 5:39:59 PM

...so my friend is full of shite
December 16, 2006 5:42:58 PM

Let's just say that the power of suggestion and perceptions can be very deceiving. :D 
December 16, 2006 5:44:10 PM

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Let's just say that suggestions and perceptions can be very deceiving. :D 


yeah, thats exactly what i thought: placebo effect. oh well. c'est la vie. good linkee with the article, much appreciated.
December 16, 2006 7:23:12 PM

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Let's just say that the power of suggestion and perceptions can be very deceiving. :D 


Thanks for the info, I'm just a little dissapointed because this ram was some of the more expensive kind and it looks to not work any better than the Walmart-grade PNY ram, at least while its planted on this 7-Eleven-grade mobo. Grumble, grumble.

Thanks for the info, at least I'm not missing much, besides the extra $100 I spent on this RAM...and the $120 I wasted on this mobo...hey...$220 is kinda alot. Gee, I wish I'd gotten an Asus. 8O
December 19, 2006 12:40:51 AM

Tight timings are better, however preformance gains vary from application to application. In games its marginal but when it comes to editing 15mb photo files it really helps to have 4.4.4.12 at 800Mhz...
December 19, 2006 1:05:02 AM

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Benchmarks will show that 4-4-4-12 vs 5-5-5-12 DDR2 timings increase memory performance by less than 2%, which has little impact on overall system performance. Check out the following THG article regarding memory frequency and timings:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/03/31/tight_timings_vs...

I ran memory benchmarks on my rig with PCMark04, 3 tests at 4-4-4-12, and 3 at 5-5-5-12. The average of the first 3 results divided by the average of the second 3 results are 12695 / 12550 = 1.16% It's still better than 0%, so we'll take whatever we can get. :D 


Have to agree. Its only 1T difference, so not much effect overall. The lower the timings, the better the chance you can oc higher. But for the non-overclocker, there's no real point in paying more for lower timings.
December 19, 2006 1:27:42 AM

I had some crosair 6400 Pros

timed at 5.5.5.12, couldnt oc it past 802 (800 is stock)
so i lowered the times to 4.4.4.12....

To be honest I dont notice much difference, but I know its suposed to be faster. I think it depends on the application in games no diff by mabye in photoediting or something it might make a diff
December 19, 2006 5:54:58 AM

I had some crosair 6400 Pros

timed at 5.5.5.12, couldnt oc it past 802 (800 is stock)
so i lowered the times to 4.4.4.12....

To be honest I dont notice much difference, but I know its suposed to be faster. I think it depends on the application in games no diff by mabye in photoediting or something it might make a diff
December 19, 2006 8:01:35 AM

I'm thinking of maybe getting a good mobo, something by Asus and see if I can get better timings out of that RAM...not because I need the speed but I like to tinker and I'm still dissapointed with non-overclockability (new word, Webster acknowledged) of this Gigabyte GA-965P DS3.
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