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December 17, 2006 9:28:47 AM

This is my spec for my new build. Please comment on it. This pc is mainly for work.. like word, photoshop, internet.....etc.... im planning to overclock it a bit to 2.4. the total should come around $1000.

Antec NSK6500 Computer Case 430W Power Supply $99.99
GeIL Ultra 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) $219.99
GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3 Socket T (LGA 775) $134.99
SAMSUNG 940BX Black 19" 5ms DVI LCD $239.99
Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 Conroe 1.86GHz $181.00
eVGA GeForce 7600GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI E x16 $124.00

not sure about the ram and the case too.

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December 17, 2006 9:39:24 AM

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not sure about the ram and the case too.


ram is fine, but if you want a little more oc-ing headroom i would get this ram instead. as for the case and psu, eh, its decent, the psu is a bit lacking, but it should be enough for your gfx card.
December 17, 2006 11:27:10 AM

If you are not going to play the latest games, every new build with recent components will do!

For the ram, 2 GB might be a little overkill, specially since ram prices are sky high at the moment.

My advice would be to start with 1 GB, which should serve you very well, and until the need arises (and ram prices are normal again) buy another 1 GB.

Since you are looking primarily on your screen, if I were you, I should get one as good as possible, and spend the extra 100$ on it you saved with not buying the extra 1 GB ram!

People over here tend to look at builds from a gamers/oc's point of view. But if you don't intend to play the latest game, this build simply is really fast enough, much more then you really need to compose an email, view a website, or write a letter ;-)
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December 17, 2006 12:40:42 PM

thx for your advice!!! so should i go for amd instead because it is cheaper to build?... but i think core 2 is better due to a lot of different reason.... :?
December 17, 2006 12:47:22 PM

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thx for your advice!!! so should i go for amd instead because it is cheaper to build?... but i think core 2 is better due to a lot of different reason.... :?


no way! C2D all the way! best cpu right now, and the E6300 fits your budget perfectly.
December 17, 2006 12:50:31 PM

thx again! so what ram should i get if i want 2*512?
December 17, 2006 12:53:11 PM

You could buy the GIGABYTE GA-965P-S3 and save some money. Around 30$. The only difference between those two are the solid capacitors (last longer) of the ds3. But not to worry, regular capacitors are good for 5+ years.
December 17, 2006 12:56:55 PM

dont get 2x512, it'll run in dual channel for now, but when you want to upgrade to 2gb's or more you'll either have to start tossing sticks or use all your ram slots. just get a 1gb stick then get another later. i would get this ram, fairly low timings.
December 17, 2006 1:04:26 PM

thx again!! sorry about all those questions... one more:p  the ram
Timing 4-4-3-15
Voltage 2.1V
some people told me to get ram that is lower than 2.0v..... so is it ok to get 2.1v???
December 17, 2006 1:10:16 PM

i just got some super talent ram at 2.2v's, the only thing that might happen is that you'll have to manually change the ram voltage in the BIO's when you first power up.
December 17, 2006 1:31:00 PM

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dont get 2x512, it'll run in dual channel for now, but when you want to upgrade to 2gb's or more you'll either have to start tossing sticks or use all your ram slots. just get a 1gb stick then get another later. i would get this ram, fairly low timings.


hmm nice find! I'll keep an eye for it, when it ports to Europe.
December 17, 2006 2:25:58 PM

Sorry guys!! final check!! :wink: please comment

Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 Conroe 1.86GHz $181.00
GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3 $134.99
OCZ S.O.E 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 800 4-4-3-15 (PC2 6400) 2.1V $129.99
Leadtek WinFast Geforce 7300GT 128MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card $82.99
LG 18X DVD±R Burner Black IDE OEM $30.99
Antec NSK6500 BlackATX Mid Tower Computer Case 430W PSU $99.99
SAMSUNG 940BX Black 19" 5ms DVI LCD $239.99

Subtotal: $899.94
December 17, 2006 2:32:22 PM

I would make only one change in your configuration.
Get the GIGABYTE GA-965P-S3 instead of the GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3.
And use the money to purchase a E6400 instead of E6300.

But either way, your good to go.
December 17, 2006 3:01:06 PM

As far as I understand it, the JEDEC standard is 1.8 Volt for memory modules. To get them run faster, companies use higher voltages, however when your motherboard only supports the standard, that is 1.8 Volt for the memory modules, the setup will refuse to boot.

I'm building a new pc at this moment as well, and use the same trick, just 1 GB as one memory stick, and upgrading later to 2 GB, and only then running in dual channel mode.
The prices for memory just don't make sense at the moment!
It seems Transcend is selling good modules too, at 1.8 V and reasonably priced! Tight memory timings are nice, but the performance gain is likely to get by unnoticed (you really won't see the difference if the setup performs 1% 'faster' under certain load conditions)

Actually, if you don't plan to gaming, a motherboard with integrated video card saves you a good deal of money too, which you can spend on more important parts!
The G965 chipset offers good performance, and motherboards based on this chipset aren't really more expensive so....
(the drivers currently don't push out the maximum performance the video chip can deliver, though it will get better with newer drivers, they're still in development)

BTW, your setup doesn't include a hard disk?

Oh, and the E6300 is really good value for the money, specially since you can overclock it so easily!
December 17, 2006 3:01:09 PM

I am completely against some posts here. Do not get the S3. Good for 5 years on average, but could just as easily become unstable after lets say, 3 year. Just get the DS3. Nothing sucks more than a computer that's crashing and you don't know why.

Also, for photo video work, I do recommend 2 GB of RAM. Yes, prices are a bit high right now, so if you want, you can get the cheaper PQI ram. It won't make any difference to a non-gamer, and costs I think 175 at newegg. Also, make sure you get sticks that are identical. Also, the DS3 will prefer RAM that 1.9V or lower. It defaults to 1.8V. If you buy above 2V, your computer may not boot. In fact, I think all OCZ ram doesn't work with newegg, but someone correct me if I'm wrong.

The 7600GT is a good deal. However, slickdeals.net is currently listing the 7900GS for 130, and it is far superior, for the same price. Buy it quick. Make sure it's PCI express.

If you plan on doing video work, which contains audio, get the audigy 4 SE.

Core 2 Duo is a good choice atm.

Are you aware the dvd burner you chose comes without software? Get the lite-on retail version instead (from newegg again!) for the same price, with latest copy of nero.

Bruce
December 17, 2006 3:09:25 PM

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I am completely against some posts here. Do not get the S3. Good for 5 years on average, but could just as easily become unstable after lets say, 3 year. Just get the DS3. Nothing sucks more than a computer that's crashing and you don't know why.
Bruce


Computer's have been using non-solid capacitors for years (as long as they exists?), and they are made to last at least 10 years so......
December 17, 2006 3:12:36 PM

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I am completely against some posts here. Do not get the S3. Good for 5 years on average, but could just as easily become unstable after lets say, 3 year. Just get the DS3. Nothing sucks more than a computer that's crashing and you don't know why.
Bruce


Computer's have been using non-solid capacitors for years (as long as they exists?), and they are made to last at least 10 years so......

what he said!

Just because you hear about solid capacitors are the new trend. Which is a good thing. Doesn't mean that all other m/b's are unstable. Do your research.
I'm tempted to flame you, but I'll behave.
December 17, 2006 3:41:25 PM

If you do end up getting the ds3 make sure you do not get ocz ram with it. i spent about 5 hours reading forums looking for good compatible ram with the ds3 and a lot of people are having problems with ocz. not just the voltage issue either. some can't get it to boot even with the newest bios, voltages changed and relaxed timings. a lot of people did get it to work but could not get a good overclock with it. the best choice would be corsair or gskill. i bought the corsair and have had no problems with it at all. even though it is rated at 5-5-5-12 i have it running at 4-4-4-12 at a 420 f.s.b with no problems.
December 18, 2006 2:29:11 AM

i have read good and bad things about the ds3, but i have never owned one so i can't really say much about it. i have read some good stuff about a cheap board; the biostar tforce965pt...apparently it OC's very well with the c2d. check out this article if your curious, it also reviews the s3 board from gigabyte.

the article
December 18, 2006 12:54:15 PM

Thx again! so what motherboard and ram should i get?
December 18, 2006 1:27:39 PM

Stick with the -DS3. It use to be 30 bucks more but is currently only 10 bucks more. Though, I'd get the ASUS P5B-E. It's a little extra money but worth it.

If it fits in your budget, get the E6400 instead of the E6300.

The single best thing you can currently do for that system for about the same cost is to get the X1900GT for $141, here. This is even better than the 7900GS that someone suggested and not much more.
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